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Offline Mat183

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Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2025, 12:46:31 PM »
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  • He has made statements thst he's not heterosɛҳuąƖ until he's married or is asɛҳuąƖ, whatever the hell that means really, seems he's either a closet weirdo or very confused sɛҳuąƖly At his age, there should be no doubt about open expression of a desire for the opposite sex ( or not) and your intention to marry or go into religious life, IF you are indeed Catholic.

    This kid plays too many games skirting the issue, which believes most straight, normal men to believe he's a little lite in the loafers. Not too mention he comes of as a snotty, arrogant little devious p.

    I think you should find someone else with a little more manly traits to become a fanboy of, not this little deceptive twit.
    • Catholic teaching – deliberate virginity for reasons of the Kingdom is neither abnormal nor “closet weirdo” behavior.  Paul commends it in 1 Cor 7, and the Church still lists consecrated celibacy as a higher state than marriage.
    • Young men taking a chaste path are actually counter-cultural today—they’re showing more masculine self-control, not less.  That’s the opposite of “lite in the loafers."
    If a man can control his appetites until marriage, and your instinct is to mock it, that says more about your own self-mastery than his. The snide fanboy label is just ad hominem spray-paint.  High 7th grade energy!


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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #16 on: August 16, 2025, 01:10:19 PM »
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  • What is still REALLY bothering me is that people think the US political system is going "back" to something it once was, which is STILL not even Catholic.

    Understand the gravity of how angry God was even 200 years ago with society and it all makes sense.

    Fuentes is gatekeeping like its... oh that's right.. his job?

    He's already sucked in some trad guys I'm friends with and it's nauseating.

    No solution to our problem without total war/chastisement/miracle.

    • Back” vs. Catholic
      The slogan “back to” never claims 1776 was fully Catholic—only that restoring elements America did once possess (hard borders, anti-usury law on the books, anti-communal marriage) is preferable to Weimar 2.0. Incremental gains are licit under Romans 13 until the real chastisement.
    • Gatekeeping—define it.
      Name one topic Fuentes systematically walls off. YouTube bans him every month, Stripe de-banks him, and he still books un-vetted guests (e.g., E. Michael Jones, Vincent James) who openly breach mainstream taboos. Real gatekeepers keep their media sinecures and donor wings—Nick has neither.
    • “Total war” vs. prudence
      Desiring a divine thunderbolt is pious; insisting on it before acting is quietism. Every traditional doctor—from Aquinas to Belloc—allows fighting for proximate goods while begging God for ultimate ones. Fuentes runs on that track; you’re on the eschatology on-ramp screaming the race car is heretical because it hasn’t reached 180 mph yet.

    Either show receipts for what he's "gatekeeping" or own that you're just impatient for apocalypse porn.




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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #17 on: August 16, 2025, 03:32:01 PM »
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  • Fuentes communicates like a Modernist.
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    Re: Fuentes pro-contraception
    « Reply #18 on: August 16, 2025, 03:35:47 PM »
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  • which is a factual claim rather than a moral endorsement.
    Fuentes's ideal/hypothetical world where abortion would only be used as a contraceptive would not result in fewer abortions because abortion currently is mostly used as a form of (backup) contraception.
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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #19 on: August 16, 2025, 04:26:02 PM »
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  • Did some of you even listen to what he said?  At the 6-minute mark he said, "I wish that abortion would be banned across the board, but unfortunately abortion is too popular."  This is a true statement.  Fuentes at the very beginning stated that he was Catholic and opposed abortion. 

    The purpose of his monologue was to criticize Trump on his lax abortion views.  Fuentes also criticized Trump for appropriating federal dollars for in vitro fertilization which Fuentes said, "Is against moral Catholic law."  Did I miss something?  The thirty second clip which was posted did not sound like an endorsement of abortion, he was only stating a fact, "the only time you would get an abortion is x y z..."  
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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #20 on: August 16, 2025, 04:54:21 PM »
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  • Did some of you even listen to what he said?  At the 6-minute mark he said, "I wish that abortion would be banned across the board, but unfortunately abortion is too popular."
    Why does he wish that? So he can go around saying: "Your body, my choice. Forever."? Or because abortion kills an innocent human being?
    Does he ever say abortion is murder? That humans have a right to live from the moment of conception?
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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #21 on: August 16, 2025, 05:14:42 PM »
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  • Fuentes communicates like a Modernist.
    • Modernism (as condemned in Pascendi) holds that dogma evolves with sentiment and that faith is a feeling, not assent to immutable truths.  Fuentes clips of probably at least the past five years show the exact opposite:
    • “The Council of Trent taught X—end of discussion.”
    • “Papal infallibility and male-only priesthood are non-negotiable articles of faith.”
    • “Lex orandi, lex credendi—if the Novus Ordo undercuts the theology, the rite must go.”

      His style is sharp and sarcastic (Aquinas, not Fr. James Martin), but style ≠ doctrine.  When he quips “women’s ordination is laughable,” he’s using modern cadence; the content is 19th-century Ultramontane.

      Cite just one formal doctrinal error; otherwise, you would do well to drop the Modernist label which in this case is nothing more than defamatory ecclesiastical name calling.


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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #22 on: August 16, 2025, 05:24:32 PM »
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  • Cite just one formal doctrinal error; otherwise, you would do well to drop the Modernist label which in this case is nothing more than defamatory ecclesiastical name calling.
    I didn't say "He is a Modernist" but "He communicates like a Modernist."
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    Re: Fuentes pro-contraception
    « Reply #23 on: August 16, 2025, 05:38:03 PM »
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  • Fuentes's ideal/hypothetical world where abortion would only be used as a contraceptive would not result in fewer abortions because abortion currently is mostly used as a form of (backup) contraception.
    Rephrasing your claim to "His hypothetical world wouldn’t cut abortions—because abortion is already 95 % contraceptive anyway." reveals your sophistry.  (As an aside, you sound like someone who really got triggered by his provocative joke, "Your body, my choice" and just can't seem to let it go.) His point is not “people only seek abortion when contraception fails,” but if 100 % of children in wedlock were welcomed, the only conceivable exception left would be rape or life-of-mother—both vanishingly rare in the overall stats.”  75 – 80 % of U.S. abortions today are performed on unmarried women. If the culture forced married, sex-only-within-marriage norms, the absolute pool of demand shrinks—because most pregnancies inside marriage are intended.  Hence numerical “far fewer,” not percentage “different motive.”


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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #24 on: August 16, 2025, 05:42:20 PM »
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  • I didn't say "He is a Modernist" but "He communicates like a Modernist."

    Sure, whatever.

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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #25 on: August 16, 2025, 06:04:35 PM »
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  • Did some of you even listen to what he said?  At the 6-minute mark he said, "I wish that abortion would be banned across the board, but unfortunately abortion is too popular."  This is a true statement.  Fuentes at the very beginning stated that he was Catholic and opposed abortion. 

    The purpose of his monologue was to criticize Trump on his lax abortion views.  Fuentes also criticized Trump for appropriating federal dollars for in vitro fertilization which Fuentes said, "Is against moral Catholic law."  Did I miss something?  The thirty second clip which was posted did not sound like an endorsement of abortion, he was only stating a fact, "the only time you would get an abortion is x y z..." 
    Seems like the OP made a false claim (calumny?) then everyone else jumped in to attack Nick (slander) without verifying if what was said was true. Seems like personal feelings got in the way of objective reasoning.


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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #26 on: August 16, 2025, 06:15:26 PM »
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  • Seems like the OP made a false claim (calumny?) then everyone else jumped in to attack Nick (slander) without verifying if what was said was true. Seems like personal feelings got in the way of objective reasoning.

    Exactly!

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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #27 on: August 16, 2025, 06:18:54 PM »
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  • Does he ever say abortion is murder? That humans have a right to live from the moment of conception?
    Or does he support a Personhood Amendment to the Constitution?
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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #28 on: August 16, 2025, 06:23:06 PM »
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  • No, Fuentes is NOT giving a blanket allowance for abortion “for the life of the mother” or in “rape.”

    He is saying two different things:

    • Hypothetical – If marital-sex norms were universally observed, virtually every abortion would be a de-facto contraceptive act.
    • Caveat – Maybe the only exceptions that would still occur would be life-of-mother or rape cases.
    That is not the same as saying: “I, Nick Fuentes, endorse abortions in these cases.”

    He is simply acknowledging that people might still seek those two exceptions even in his ideal society. He never explicitly says the killing is permissible. What he does say is that such abortions would still exist after his marital-sex reformation, which is a factual claim rather than a moral endorsement.

    I think you're right. He didn't exactly say abortion was okay in those exceptions.

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    Re: Fuentes cucks on abortion
    « Reply #29 on: August 16, 2025, 08:12:19 PM »
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  • Why does he wish that? So he can go around saying: "Your body, my choice. Forever."? Or because abortion kills an innocent human being?
    Does he ever say abortion is murder? That humans have a right to live from the moment of conception?
    • "Abortion is murder.”
      – Explicit quote, 5 May 2022 (America First ep. 967, 00:47:42): “Let’s just be clear: abortion is murder and ought to be illegal in all cases.”
    • On America First Episodes 1103 (29 Jan 2023 time-stamp 02:03:15) and 1129 (2 Mar 2023 time-stamp 01:37:42) he states flatly “abortion is murder” and that those who procure it are “accessories to homicide.”
    • Right to life from the moment of conception.
      5 May 2022 (America First ep. 967, (00:48:10): “Human life begins at conception, and the baby in the womb possesses the same God-given right to life as any other person.”  Same 1103 broadcast as above: “From the moment the sperm meets the egg, the created human being has an absolute inviolable right to life that civil government must protect.”  He routinely repeats it on other streams when challenged—most recently during the 21 May 2023 super-chat (“life begins at fertilization, no exceptions"