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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Family Separation
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2018, 09:12:59 AM »
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    The US may have a "legal" right to shoot these people but that would go against the fifth commandment in the Law of God.
    If you try to break into a bank, you will get shot.  Tresspassing is against the moral law.  Companies (and nations) have a right to defend themselves.  ILLEGAL immigrants are INTRUDERS.

    I noticed you DODGED the analogy of the illegal immigrants who tried to break into your back door and stay at your house, for an indeterminate amount of time, until the courts figure it out.  I guess charity ends when it inconveniences YOU.

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    When you take a child away from its parent then you become responsible for the well being of that child.
    If a parent takes their child with them to rob a bank, and they get caught, the child does not go with the parent to jail.  Same situation here.

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    When a government official abuses a child in the name of "government policy" then his culpability is greater than if it was just anybody.
    You're assuming abuse, based on the media's half-truths and lies.  Outside of the separation from the parent (which is necessary, in some cases, and only happening 16% of the time), there is no abuse happening.

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    Placing small children in jail is still child abuse.
    Where are they supposed to go?  Let them back out into the desert ALONE?  Call their relatives to come pick them up?  Oh, wait, we can't do that because their relatives are poor.

    The situation the US faces is the equivalent to a 30 babies being left on your doorstep in the middle of the night, as women used to do when they left their children at the doorsteps of a convent or church.  How are you going to take care of 30 babies until the State figures out where to put them?  It will probably be a few weeks until they locate foster families for all of them.  Imagine your house, where you have to unexpectedly care for 30 babies for 1-2 weeks.  Would it be a pretty sight?  No, it would look awful.  You'd have makeshift beds and clothes everywhere.  Your house would look like the worst daycare on the planet - a disorganized mess.

    Then the media shows up and wants to interview you and they takes some pictures, and "boom" you're on the front cover of the news with the media lying and "spinning" the story (for clicks and ads) so it sounds "juicier" to the public.  AUTHORITIES INVESTIGATING LOCAL FAMILY RAISING 30 BABIES IN A 1,500 SQ FT HOUSE.

    Then the "out of context" interviews start:
    Interview A - "I'm his neighbor and I tried to help for a few days but I couldn't handle all the dirty diapers.  They are everywhere.  The stench is overwhelming.  The house is a mess."

    Interview B - "I don't know why he doesn't get help from the authorities.  (which you are; they told you to "hang in there for a few days")  He's trying to do this alone and it's irresponsible."

    Interview C - "What is he thinking?  Does he even know how to take care of a baby?  These children need to be cared for by experts."

    And so, you are cast as an idiot, a hard-headed citizen who isn't trying to work with the state to fix the problem and you are "abusing" the kids because dirty diapers are everywhere and the house is a mess.

    See how the media can spin things? ?? ??  DON'T TRUST THE MEDIA.


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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #46 on: June 22, 2018, 10:38:30 AM »
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  • "If this had been the result of a natural disaster then I could see them having problems accommodating all these children. But this is the result of a policy change."
    The Homeland Security Act of 2002, approved by the Congress and specifically by Ms Clinton, Mr Biden and Mr Kerry, who voted FOR it.
    Is this the policy you are talking about?(Public Law 107-296- Nov 25, 2002.)
    Obama detained children under this law as well, in much more stringent conditions.
    Are you having a problem with with obeying this law? No policy change here.


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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #47 on: June 22, 2018, 10:29:36 PM »
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  • Your evidence are two premiere Jєωιѕн leftist propaganda outlets. Do not use such unreliable sources if you want to be taken seriously. Poche, you seem to have over time, absorbed the communist narrative on just about everything
    The question should not be just who said it,  but is what was said the truth?

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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #48 on: June 22, 2018, 11:34:45 PM »
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  • The question should not be just who said it,  but is what was said the truth?
    No, it is not the truth. The truth is that every single one of these children are objectively law breakers, as are their parents, when their real parents can even be found.
    The Jєωιѕн leftist narrative has really gotten hold of your soul.

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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #49 on: June 23, 2018, 02:29:41 AM »
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  • The Homeland Security Act of 2002, approved by the Congress and specifically by Ms Clinton, Mr Biden and Mr Kerry, who voted FOR it.
    Is this the policy you are talking about?(Public Law 107-296- Nov 25, 2002.)
    Obama detained children under this law as well, in much more stringent conditions.
    Are you having a problem with with obeying this law? No policy change here.
    Obama was sued for implementing this law and now there is an agreement. Trump wants to cancel out this agreement. 


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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #50 on: June 23, 2018, 02:31:19 AM »
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  • No, it is not the truth. The truth is that every single one of these children are objectively law breakers, as are their parents, when their real parents can even be found.
    The Jєωιѕн leftist narrative has really gotten hold of your soul.
    Something is wrong when we see children young enough to be in diapers as criminals.

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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #51 on: June 23, 2018, 05:04:47 AM »
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  • Something is wrong when we see children young enough to be in diapers as criminals.
    The "parents" send their 12 year old daughters by themselves among the coyotes that smuggle them into the USA to get raped multiple times along the way. These are not real parents, their children are just chattel to them. Unfortunately, the faith, their only hope of civilizing, has been taken from them by their masonic  government, and what you have left are beasts. The savageness is in the raw with the poor because they do not have the money to cover it up with mansions, plastic surgery, abortions, Merecedes Benz.....  The rich in Mexico have solved the problem by aborting their children and taking advantage of the cheap labor to live "clean". Until South America returns to the true faith LIVED, they will remain as just another Africa.

    In the USA, if I leave my 12 year old daughter in the car reading a book with the air conditioning running for 3 minutes while I pickup my laundry, I get arrested.
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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #52 on: June 23, 2018, 04:27:53 PM »
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  • Yes, many parents are selling their children to strangers.  
    Clinton made the law to separate children from adults.  Obama enforced it.   And of course liberals blame trump.    

    How many American children are separated from their parents and placed in daycare because of high property taxes?
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    Re: Family Separation
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    President Trump started off his day in attack mode (as is almost ubiquitous these days), exclaiming that "The Russian Witch Hunt is Rigged," and how poll number show Americans rapidly losing faith in the 'Russia collusion' narrative. All of which explains their sudden shift to a new narrative - hitler-like separation (and caging) of poor desperate illegal immigrant children from their loving caring illegal immigrant parents.
    While the media has been loathed to admit it - the separation policy is not a hitler-confirming Trump decision, it has been in place for many years and, as Trump tweeted, Obama faced similar headlines (though somehow was not compared to Hitler and lambasted in the media)...
    Then took direct aim at The Democrats lack of a solution...
    But as The Automatic Earth's Raul Ilargi Meijer explains so eloquently below, the pedophastry and bigoteering of politicians everywhere (ably assisted by a subservient liberal media) has enabled 'fake news' to become fact in an ever-increasing divergence from reality.
    The two most viral photographs of the ‘Trump Separation Scandal’ have now been debunked, or at the very least been proven to have been used ‘out of context’. This is a dangerous development, as are the reasons to use them the way they have been. Both pictures are of children who had not been separated from their mothers at all. But both were used to depict just that: a child being taken away from its mother.
    What’s dangerous about this is, first, that those who spread the narrative regardless of the truth may next permit themselves to use images from entirely different locations or times to make their point. Yes, children have been taken from parents at US borders. And attention for that is warranted, very much so. But playing loose with the facts turns those facts into a mere narrative in which nobody can tell fact from fiction anymore.
    First, a week ago already, I saw this on RT: Debunked: Viral Image Of Crying, Caged Toddler ‘Detained By ICE’ Not What It Seems
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    A distressing image of a crying toddler locked in a barred cage after purportedly being detained by US immigration officials has gone viral – but despite online claims, it does not actually depict what has been alleged. The image, which shows a little boy crying in a cage as he looks out between its bars, was shared by activist journalist and undocuмented migrant Jose Antonio Vargas as a comment on the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown on families.
    In the same thread, Vargas admitted that he came across the photo on a friend’s timeline and was still looking for the original source. Nevertheless, the snap quickly went viral with Vargas’ post garnering more than 23,000 retweets and many others sharing the image across their own social media accounts.

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    Vargas explained that he shared the photo because when he was detained by ICE in McAllen, Texas in 2014, he encountered children who were locked up there. “It wasn’t okay then; it’s not okay now,” he wrote, adding that he’s been outraged about the incident for years.
    It has since emerged that the picture was in fact not from a detention facility at all, and instead was taken at a protest against Trump’s immigration policies held on June 10 outside Dallas City Hall. The demonstration organized by Brown Berets de Cemanahuac was held to call out the policy of family separation and confining undocuмented children.
    Ergo: an activist journalist and undocuмented immigrant makes it look as if a picture depicts something that in reality it did not. Note also that the article says he wanted to comment on the Trump immigration crackdown, because he has memories of the Obama immigration crackdown, when he saw children locked up. But then, hey, that’s social media, right? Anyone can say anything.
    It’s different, though, when TIME Magazine uses such politics. And its editor-in-chief defends the use of the picture by saying it was the most visible symbol of something, even though he knew full well that the photo didn’t depict that something. That’s a mighty slippery scale. If they could have achieved the same effect with a picture of a overripe banana taken in the Pacific in the 1950’s, they probably would have used it. It’s the effect that counts, not the facts.
    Fact-Check: Was Migrant Girl On US Border Taken From Mother? Unfounded
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    Two photos that went viral on social media depict scenes that are not directly related to the family separations taking place on the US-Mexico border since early May. The most prominent, of Honduran two-year-old Yanela Varela crying inconsolably, has become a global symbol of the separations – helping to attract more than $18 million in donations for a Texas non-profit called RAICES. The photograph was taken on June 12 in McAllen, Texas by John Moore, a Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer for Getty Images.

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    An online article about the picture, published by Time Magazine, initially reported the girl was taken from her mother, but was subsequently corrected to make clear that: “The girl was not carried away screaming by US Border Patrol agents; her mother picked her up and the two were taken away together.” Time Magazine nonetheless used the image of the sobbing child on its cover, next to an image of President Trump looming over her, with the caption “Welcome to America”. The head of Honduras’ Migrant Protection Office Lisa Medrano confirmed to AFP that the little girl, just two years old, “was not separated” from her family.
    The child’s father also said as much. Denis Varela told the Washington Post that his wife Sandra Sanchez, 32, had not been separated from their daughter, and that both were being detained together in an immigration center in McAllen. Under fire for its cover – which was widely decried as misleading including by the White House – the magazine said it was standing by its decision. “The June 12 photograph of the 2-year-old Honduran girl became the most visible symbol of the ongoing immigration debate in America for a reason,” Time’s editor-in-chief Edward Felsenthal said.

    [ZH: And here's the corrected version:]
    Nassim Nicolas Taleb, of black swans and Fragility, has found the appropriate term for this ‘phenomenon’, and explains why it works so well that TIME apparently doesn’t care about the damage to its reputation caused by using photographs for such purposes.
    Pedophrasty, Bigoteering, and Other Modern Scams
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    Pedophrasty Definition: Argument involving children to prop up a rationalization and make the opponent look like an asshole, as people are defenseless and suspend all skepticism in front of suffering children: nobody has the heart to question the authenticity or source of the reporting. Often done with the aid of pictures. [..] Pedophrasty is effective as it provides arguments to strike before the evidence is formed. People are moved into “doing something” Pedophrasts prey on our maternal (and paternal) instincts.
    Pedophrasty has its most effects on actors, journalists and similar types who are intellectually insecure, deprived of critical judgment, and afraid of being classified as violators of some norm of political correctness. For instance, pedophrasty has been commonly used in the Syrian war by such propagandists as Julian Roepke continuously supplying the German public with pictures of dead children. Or the various lobbies hired by Saudi Barbaria (and allies), such as the Middle East Institute in Washington DC, to promote Sunni Islamist policies under the cover of “think tanks”.
    The Nayirah testimony: a false congressional testimony by 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah (she turned out to be the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the U.S.) was a bit responsible into tipping the US into the war. Nayirah claimed that she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators a Kuwaiti hospital, and leave the babies to die. Nobody dared to question the veracity of her claims.
    That’s what is dangerous: seeing a photo of a child in distress makes people halt their critical thinking. That’s also why such photos are used. They help build a narrative that doesn’t have to be factual to shock people. But at that point TIME becomes a fiction magazine; it’s where it leaves journalism behind.
    The narrative also depends to a large extent on the singularity of Trump’s brutality compared to other presidents and nations’ leaders. It seeks to single him out as being extremely cruel. That narrative will fall to pieces going forward, and not only because the stories behind the photos have now been exposed.
    First, here’s a look at what happened under earlier US presidents, in this case Obama, published by the ACLU in May 2018:
    ACLU Obtains Docuмents Showing Widespread Abuse Of Child Immigrants In US Custody
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    Docuмents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union featured in a new report released today show the pervasive abuse and neglect of unaccompanied immigrant children detained by U.S. Customs and Border Protection. The report was produced in conjunction with the International Human Rights Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School.
    “These docuмents provide a glimpse into a federal immigration enforcement system marked by brutality and lawlessness,” said Mitra Ebadolahi, ACLU Border Litigation Project staff attorney. “All human beings deserve to be treated with dignity and respect regardless of their immigration status — and children, in particular, deserve special protection. The misconduct demonstrated in these records is breathtaking, as is the government’s complete failure to hold officials who abuse their power accountable. The abuse that takes place by government officials is reprehensible and un-American.”
    The report is based on over 30,000 pages of docuмents dated between 2009 and 2014.
    Then, what other ‘leaders’, who express their ‘disgust’ and worries at the Trump separation policies do at home. The Guardian yesterday:
    Theresa May’s Brutal Family Separations Would Make Trump Blush
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    [..] as a British citizen I cannot, in good faith, reassure myself with that time-old mantra that we are somehow more civilised and less cruel or brutal than our cousins across the pond. Nor do I think that condemnation from our government can carry any real currency. Since long before anybody had heard the words “Make America great again”, splitting up families has been official policy in Theresa May’s Home Office – and it has been carried out with a brutality and on a scale that would make even President Trump blush.
    The Children’s Commissioner has found that at least 15,000 children growing up in the UK live without a parent because the right of British citizens to reunite with a foreign spouse is limited by an unreasonable income threshold, an impossible complicated application system fraught with Home Office errors, and no legal aid for families to challenge incorrect decisions.
    And the Sydney Morning Herald from December 2017:
    Australia Is Wilfully Damaging The Health Of Children On Nauru To Make A Point – And It Is Appalling
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    When we visited Nauru as paediatric specialists three years ago, we were asked to see 30 of the 100 children being detained on the island. Among them was a six-year-old girl who had tried to kill herself and a two-year-old boy with such severe behaviour problems a doctor had prescribed anti-psychotic medicines. Their parents were in despair. They had fled persecution, trying to save their children from harm, but had ended up imprisoned on a remote island, without hope.
    We left with the view that these were the most traumatised children we had ever consulted on, far worse than children we had seen in Australia, Africa, Asia or Europe. Three years later, 43 of those children remain on the island. Officially they are now free to move around, but reports of attacks by locals show Nauru is not safe and so they remain in the “Regional Processing Centre”.
    In 2014, the Australian Human Rights Commission reported that children at this centre were deeply traumatised psychologically, and had even been abused. Their detention was harming them. When Australia introduced mandatory detention in 1992, it took 10 weeks on average to process an application for refugee status. Now it takes years. As the numbers of children in detention fall, the length of time in detention rises. This is deliberate: wilfully damaging children’s health to deter others from seeking asylum.
    See, what TIME Magazine and others do, using pictures of crying children regardless of their actual context, may make for an initially appealing narrative, but in the end their approach only distracts from what really matters. Which is that children need to be with their mothers (and preferably fathers).
    Just reporting the facts on this is not only enough, it’s the only way to report on it. Once you start making up stuff, you’re done, and the truth is done.
    US immigration laws are clearly not working; so change them. ICE is a terrible organization that has attracted far too many sociopaths. Close it down. Child abuse as a tool to instill fear has been an international political tool for a very long time. Those are the things that should be making headlines. Turning this into yet another anti-Trump narrative, using crying children as shortcuts to people’s emotions, doesn’t work, or not for long.

    This is not about Trump. Trying to make it about him is not going to help those children. And that’s what you want, right? Right?
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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #54 on: June 24, 2018, 07:22:51 PM »
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    TRUMP JUST ISSUED STUNNING ORDER TO ALL U.S. CITIZENS THAT HAS ‘UNDOcuмENTEDS’ SPRINTING FOR THE BORDER
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    President Trump is ordering all American citizens to take heed of and listen to his personal vow to never let America become Europe regarding migrants and refugees on his watch. “The United States will not be a migrant camp and it will not be a refugee holding facility,” Trump vowed during a press conference. “It won’t be. You look at what is happening in Europe and other places, we can’t allow it to happen to the United States. Not on my watch.” That’s a very strong and definitive statement from our Commander-in-Chief. It is his strongest statement yet during his term as president. It has really put undocuмented illegal aliens on notice and is sending them running for the border. And it’s an order and vow Americans can take to heart.
    The media has been wall to wall attacking President Trump and his administration for separating children from their parents at the border. Even though 10,000 of the last 12,000 children who came over that border did so without their actual parents. The left is trying to emotionally weaponize the issue with pictures of babies torn away from their mothers while breastfeeding (not true), children crying for their parents while in cages (not true) and making comparisons to the h0Ɩ0cαųst.
    At last count, the media had used h0Ɩ0cαųst references 22 times to play on the issue. They are all using the very same talking points as well. The left has even won over some Republicans like Laura Bush, who compared the detention facilities to Japanese internment camps. That’s also not true and hypocritical since her husband signed a great deal of this into law in 2008.
    Give President Trump his due, he’s standing strong on the issue and in fact, as I understand it, ICE will be doubling down on their immigration raids and the border will be tightened up even further. That’s sure to drive the left right out of their minds.

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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #55 on: June 24, 2018, 07:37:02 PM »
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  • Ralph Nader Asks Former First Ladies:
     Why No "Heartfelt Concern for Tens of Thousands of Children Killed or Seriously Maimed" by Their Husbands' Wars?

     
     Consumer advocate puts check on Laura Bush and Michelle Obama for selective criticism when it comes to kids harmed by brutal U.S. policies
     
     
    By Andrea Germanos

    June 23, 2018 "Information Clearing House" - Noted consumer advocate and author Ralph Nader on Friday offered a sharp retort to Laura Bush and Michelle Obama in response to the former first ladies levied criticism at the Trump administration's cruel immigration policy that separated immigrant children from their families.

    "Would be nice if Laura Bush and Michelle Obama had expressed similar heartfelt concern for the tens of thousands of children killed or seriously maimed by the wars of their husbands in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere," he tweeted.

    As it's signed "-R," it was written by Nader himself, rather than his staff who often tweet on his behalf.

    The tweet follows an op-ed published Sunday at the Washington Post in which Bush took aim at Trump's "zero tolerance" policy, writing that she "was among the millions of Americans who watched images of children who have been torn from their parents."

    "I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart," she wrote, tweeting out the same section of text.

    Michelle Obama retweeted that, adding, "Sometimes truth transcends party."

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), it should also be noted, was created under the George w. Bush administration and the Obama administration also came under fire for his deportation policy, treatment of child migrants, and the detention of immigrant families.

    The other living first ladies have also weighed in on the Trump administration's widely condemned policy of ripping families apart at the Southern border, with all expressing at least some measure of criticism.

    The current First Lady's reaction to the separations and detention of chidlren was quite mild, with a spokesperson for Melania Trump saying she "hates to see children separated from their families." It also rang particularly hollow, as, on her way to visit a detention center at the border, she wore a jacket emblazoned with the words "I really don't care, do U?"



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    The views expressed in this article are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Information Clearing House.



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  • Ralph Nader is spot on - but please, RC1953, learn to hyperlink or change font sizes!
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  • The "parents" send their 12 year old daughters by themselves among the coyotes that smuggle them into the USA to get raped multiple times along the way. These are not real parents, their children are just chattel to them. Unfortunately, the faith, their only hope of civilizing, has been taken from them by their masonic  government, and what you have left are beasts. The savageness is in the raw with the poor because they do not have the money to cover it up with mansions, plastic surgery, abortions, Merecedes Benz.....  The rich in Mexico have solved the problem by aborting their children and taking advantage of the cheap labor to live "clean". Until South America returns to the true faith LIVED, they will remain as just another Africa.

    In the USA, if I leave my 12 year old daughter in the car reading a book with the air conditioning running for 3 minutes while I pickup my laundry, I get arrested.
    It is negligence to leave a child that is still in diapers in a situation where it is behind bars and a stranger who is a teenager unknown to its parents has to teach other who are unrelated to it how to change its diapers. Where are the trained and vetted caregivers?  

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    « Reply #58 on: June 27, 2018, 02:16:10 AM »
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  • They came from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, with children in tow. Some were fleeing violence. Others were looking for a better life.
     They didn't know they would be separated from their children after crossing the U.S.-Mexico border due to a zero-tolerance policy that called for prosecuting every adult who entered the country illegally.
     Five parents out of a group of more than 30 who were recently released from federal custody pending the outcome of their immigration and asylum cases shared their stories Monday during a news conference in El Paso. They have found temporary shelter with a Texas charity organization, with their locations tracked by ankle monitors.
     Some have no idea where their children are. Others do but can't say with any certainty when they might see them again. Their children range in age from 4 to 17.
     One father said he felt broken without his teenage son, while another cried over his daughter. A mother wiped away tears, fearing that her 4-year-old son believes she abandoned him.
     They are just a few of the many families who have been thrust into the center of a long simmering debate over how to handle the flood of migrants on the southern border. The five immigrants spoke on the condition that their last names not be used for fear of deportation by U.S. authorities.
     
     
     https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigrant-par...itics.html
     
     Where are the children? Why are they being sequestered from the parents? Why are parents being deported without tehir children?

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    Re: Family Separation
    « Reply #59 on: June 27, 2018, 09:04:47 AM »
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    "They didn't know they would be separated from their children after crossing the U.S.-Mexico border due to a zero-tolerance policy that called for prosecuting every adult who entered the country illegally".
    You see, they came here and the first thing that they did was to break the law, and the fact that they brought children with them with the intent to make them break the law as well, they have broken the moral law as well.

    They have no right to be here and the consequences of their actions are theirs alone. Being separated from the children that they have abused by involving them in criminal behavior is their responsibility.