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Offline St Jude Thaddeus

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Re: Election Countdown
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2020, 01:35:25 AM »
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    • In this video Fr. Ripperger declares that politics are no longer about differences in opinion but about a battle between good and evil, and says that not exercising your right to vote when you have the opportunity to do so is sinful. This is just an excerpt, the full sermon is linked to in the description.

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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #61 on: August 13, 2020, 08:08:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: XavierSem on July 23, 2020, 01:36:12 AM
    If President Trump is re-elected for 4 more years, Roe v Wade will be overturned. Virtually Guaranteed.

    Utter nonsense.  Abortion might get restricted a bit her or there, but they'll never overturn it.
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #62 on: August 13, 2020, 08:10:22 AM »
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    • You people really need to snap out of this nonsense.

    BOTH PARTIES ARE CONTROLLED BY THE SAME PEOPLE (aka Jєωs).  They play these games, these theater performances, to make it look like there are two different parties, but it's merely a divide and conquer technique as they move in lock-step towards their real agenda.  If anyone was REALLY a threat to their interests, they'd be taken out immediately.  What do you think the Epstein operation was all about?  It was to get blackmail material on politicians and other people of influence so they could be controlled.  If you don't see that Trump is a Jєωιѕн puppet, then there's no hope for you.  I would have expected more from Traditional Catholics, especially those who have an affinity for the thinking of Bishop Williamson.
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #63 on: August 13, 2020, 08:23:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 13, 2020, 08:10:22 AM
    You people really need to snap out of this nonsense.

    BOTH PARTIES ARE CONTROLLED BY THE SAME PEOPLE (aka Jєωs).  They play these games, these theater performances, to make it look like there are two different parties, but it's merely a divide and conquer technique as they move in lock-step towards their real agenda.  If anyone was REALLY a threat to their interests, they'd be taken out immediately.  What do you think the Epstein operation was all about?  It was to get blackmail material on politicians and other people of influence so they could be controlled.  If you don't see that Trump is a Jєωιѕн puppet, then there's no hope for you.  I would have expected more from Traditional Catholics, especially those who have an affinity for the thinking of Bishop Williamson.
    That's great and all, but what does sitting at home achieve that voting for the lesser evil doesn't?

    Even if Trump is a puppet, he's a puppet who's rolled back a lot of Obama-era abominations and who has refused to institute many of the greater abominations Hillary would have.
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #64 on: August 13, 2020, 09:26:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: forlorn on August 13, 2020, 08:23:16 AM
    That's great and all, but what does sitting at home achieve that voting for the lesser evil doesn't?

    Even if Trump is a puppet, he's a puppet who's rolled back a lot of Obama-era abominations and who has refused to institute many of the greater abominations Hillary would have.

    Traditional Catholics have to drop the term "lesser evil".  It's completely inimical to basic Catholic moral principles.  If you want to make a case from double effect that it's permissible to vote for Trump, then have at it.  But people need to stop presenting this guy as some champion of good vs. the evil in the world.  He's nothing of the sort.

    That's assuming that our votes mean anything at all.  They control the voting machines.  As Stalin said, it's not about those who cast the votes, but about those who count them.  They give us this illusion that we're actually doing anything by voting.

    This idea of there being an obligation to vote is not absolute.  So, for instance, if you live in a heavily blue state, there's no point in going to vote for Trump.  If you live in a heavily red state, there's also no need to vote for Trump.  It's potentially an issue if you live in a swing state (again, assuming that they don't rig the vote count).  Also, even if I live in a swing state, there's no dictate about who I have to vote for.  Even the SSPX in their voting guidelines admit that there's no OBLIGATION to vote for a bad candidate.  I could satisfy any obligation by going to the polls and voting for Pat Buchanan ... or even myself for that matter.
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #65 on: August 13, 2020, 11:21:27 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 13, 2020, 09:26:13 AM
    Traditional Catholics have to drop the term "lesser evil".  It's completely inimical to basic Catholic moral principles.  If you want to make a case from double effect that it's permissible to vote for Trump, then have at it.  But people need to stop presenting this guy as some champion of good vs. the evil in the world.  He's nothing of the sort.

    That's assuming that our votes mean anything at all.  They control the voting machines.  As Stalin said, it's not about those who cast the votes, but about those who count them.  They give us this illusion that we're actually doing anything by voting.

    This idea of there being an obligation to vote is not absolute.  So, for instance, if you live in a heavily blue state, there's no point in going to vote for Trump.  If you live in a heavily red state, there's also no need to vote for Trump.  It's potentially an issue if you live in a swing state (again, assuming that they don't rig the vote count).  Also, even if I live in a swing state, there's no dictate about who I have to vote for.  Even the SSPX in their voting guidelines admit that there's no OBLIGATION to vote for a bad candidate.  I could satisfy any obligation by going to the polls and voting for Pat Buchanan ... or even myself for that matter.
    I'm not saying there's a moral obligation to vote for Trump. I'm saying "he's probably a puppet" too isn't a great argument when he's at the very least the less bad puppet. It's not like voting costs you anything, or that by not voting you're somehow helping topple the regime. 
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #66 on: August 15, 2020, 12:35:22 AM »
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #67 on: August 15, 2020, 12:37:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 13, 2020, 08:10:22 AM
    What do you think the Epstein operation was all about?  It was to get blackmail material on politicians and other people of influence so they could be controlled.  
    To whom do you give the credit for ending that particular scheme?
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #68 on: August 15, 2020, 05:34:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: XavierSem on July 23, 2020, 01:36:12 AM

    If President Trump is re-elected for 4 more years, Roe v Wade will be overturned. Virtually Guaranteed. Both Ginsburg and Breyer are very old and near retirement age. Trump has said he will pick Amy Barrett to replace Ginsburg when she goes. Breyer could be replaced by someone like Bill Pryor. Won't NeverTrumpers feel bad if someone they did not vote for was key to ending RoevWade? Trump 2020!

    It is less the stupidity of this comment than its laziness that most merits scorn. Even someone as immature as XavierSem ought to be held responsible for failing to spend even twenty minutes examining the present human and political circuмstances and comparing them with any of the hundred or so comparable situations in domestic US politics since, say, 1970. Even were all the speculative occurrences, implausible scenarios, and unsupported assumptions implicit in his comment permitted to pass unchallenged, the central fact remains that Donald Trump has not yet shown that he possesses the courage to stand up to his (((handlers))) or the patience to learn how the myriad executive departments that he bears ultimate responsibility for managing actually function. In common with a great many other rich guys, Trump is accustomed to paying other people to do his work and his thinking for him.

    Even if Trump wins in a landslide and takes office next January with unprecedented Republican majorities in both houses, he will never get around to doing what XavierSem has predicted. Since the real-world likelihood is that he will be lucky not just to win himself but to have even the Senate with a scant Republican majority alongside him, the most that faithful Catholics might reasonably hope for is that he doesn't perform any more poorly in his second term than he has in his first.

    Finally, Ginsburg and Breyer will never retire. They will stay on the Court until they draw their last breath.
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #69 on: August 24, 2020, 10:57:19 PM »
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    I liked this speech. Not a ton of substance, but he seems sincere. There aren't many people who will stand up and praise Donald Trump as a human being and a friend. I doubt he's blind to the fact that Trump isn't very perfect, but he speaks like a friend would, highlighting the things he does well and ignoring that which he doesn't. It took some guts to defend Trump not just on a policy level, but as a person of character without mentioning all of the exceptions.

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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #70 on: August 28, 2020, 12:42:00 AM »
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    Video of some #PromisesKept and some new promises for the next 4 years.

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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #71 on: August 28, 2020, 06:46:43 PM »
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    • Wayne Dupree: Here’s how November’s election could lead to a new cινιℓ ωαr in America. I pray I’m wrong, but fear I’m not



    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/499303-wayne-dupree-us-civil-war/
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #72 on: August 28, 2020, 08:44:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on August 13, 2020, 09:26:13 AM
     I could satisfy any obligation by going to the polls and voting for Pat Buchanan ... or even myself for that matter.
    I’m voting for you, Ladislaus.  I agree 100% that our national leaders are a national disgrace, opposite sides of the same shekel.  We no longer have statesmen; we have sleazy politicians in the employ of the JWO.
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #73 on: August 28, 2020, 08:57:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on August 28, 2020, 08:44:34 PM
    I’m voting for you, Ladislaus.  I agree 100% that our national leaders are a national disgrace, opposite sides of the same shekel.  We no longer have statesmen; we have sleazy politicians in the employ of the JWO.
    I thought Sean Johnson was running.  Has Ladislaus also thrown his hat in the ring?    :popcorn:    ;)
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    Re: Election Countdown
    « Reply #74 on: August 28, 2020, 09:48:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marie Teresa on August 28, 2020, 08:57:47 PM
    I thought Sean Johnson was running.  Has Ladislaus also thrown his hat in the ring?    :popcorn:    ;)
    SJ is running, with Matto as his running mate.
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