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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: graceseeker on October 23, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
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I think tracking the news (Fox) is important to making you a better person. You can't know, for example, what all is really wrong spiritually if you don't know what's going on "otherwise"
that's my opinion.
How can you realize that we A mericans (for example) are spoiled brats compared to how some people in the world live?
and when we know that they need help, we can send them money. Of course, we distrustful ones are always wondering if our money is really spent on the needy..
sigh
so hard to trust these days... Gee, wonder why? :confused:
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Guess the Desert Fathers, for just one example, were really jacked up then.
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Desert Fathers
The Desert Fathers were blessed with wisdom from above. It was they who forsook the world to live in barren, hot, and hostile deserts. They did not have to rely on Fake News, as they survived on prayers and on the meager food they could grow, the bread baked by the faithful, and whatever the angels fed them in times of need.
We, like them, may need to escape to deserts, deserted mountains, the rocky wilderness, and caves if we are to preserve our faith.
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You will never learn anything by following the news. The news is chaff, the same old dung in different packaging every day. Leave the news for one year and come back and you will see that you missed nothing.
Once you learn the system, you will see the news for what it is, a tool brainwashing tool.
Learn the Catholic faith and LIVE it, and you will have a step up on 99.99% of the world.
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And to add to Last Tradhican's wise words, if you get rid of your TV and Fox News, and begin to read, you will learn to express yourself in a coherent fashion. That plus praying the Rosary every day will made a huge difference to your life.
Ask yourself why you are addicted to poison? Get it out of your system ASAP.
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Apologies, Graceseeker, I just noticed this on yet another of your many posts on mainstream media:
yes I pray the rosary
but I fail to see how watching Fox News is somehow a bad thing. I don't take interest in every story, but we should all know what's going on in the capital. It affects us, sometimes dreadfully
Praying the Rosary is a great plus for you as a Graceseeker.
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Matthew used to have a great thread permanently on his front page (pinned) about the dangers inherent in watching TV. You should check it out.
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https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/television-excellent-article!-a-must-read!/
I don't know why but the "excellent article" has disappeared, but the thread remains.
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I never "know what's going on in the capital". I feel no loss for not knowing. I get most of my news from my hushand, CathInfo and books. I am reasonably well informed for my needs.
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The trouble with dependence on TV and Fox News:
You don't get the truth or the full story
While your watching TV you are not using your mind,
you being forcefed what somebody else wants you to believe or think.
You are bombarded with advertising and pornographic imagery
In most homes, the TV replaces the altar as the central point and so becomes an idol.
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That's just a few reasons not to watch.
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... begin to read, you will learn to express yourself in a coherent fashion.
With all due Nadir "m'dear" I read like a "fiend", but it seems that the more that I do so, the more frequently I'm charged with incoherence.
Not saying people shouldn't, but that it doesn't necessarily follow.
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Apologies, Graceseeker, I just noticed this on yet another of your many posts on mainstream media:
Praying the Rosary is a great plus for you as a Graceseeker.
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Matthew used to have a great thread permanently on his front page (pinned) about the dangers inherent in watching TV. You should check it out.
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https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/television-excellent-article!-a-must-read!/
I don't know why but the "excellent article" has disappeared, but the thread remains.
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I never "know what's going on in the capital". I feel no loss for not knowing. I get most of my news from my hushand, CathInfo and books. I am reasonably well informed for my needs.
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The trouble with dependence on TV and Fox News:
You don't get the truth or the full story
While your watching TV you are not using your mind,
you being forcefed what somebody else wants you to believe or think.
You are bombarded with advertising and pornographic imagery
In most homes, the TV replaces the altar as the central point and so becomes an idol.
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That's just a few reasons not to watch.
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On another note, just when and how did the same old bilge become "news" again?
I once contemplated a bit of ongoing "performance art", requiring massive funds of course, called "BLAH".
It was a TV channel with people just saying "Blah" with varying inflections; everything 24/7 "blah". Movies, "news", TV series(es?), commercials, the works.
Then I realized that this "wheel" was invented long ago, and it's showing no signs of slowing.
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With all due Nadir "m'dear" I read like a "fiend", but it seems that the more that I do so, the more frequently I'm charged with incoherence.
Not saying people shouldn't, but that it doesn't necessarily follow.
You could be worse, couldn't you, DZ, if you didn't read like a "fiend" AND you watched Fox Lies?
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You could be worse, couldn't you, DZ, if you didn't read like a "fiend" AND you watched Fox Lies?
Depends on what you mean by "worse", but this instance is in reference to an apparent correlation between reading, and in/coherence.
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Being a "fiendish" or avid reader does not necessarily improve someone's inherent skills in communication.
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Being a "fiendish" or avid reader does not necessarily improve someone's inherent skills in communication.
Yeah, right? That's what I'm saying.
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You could be worse, couldn't you, DZ, if you didn't read like a "fiend" AND you watched Fox Lies?
Replace the word 'worse' with 'less coherent'. I'll have to refine my writing skills.
(https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=46933.msg574311#msg574311)
Quote from 1st Mansion Tenant: (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=46933.msg574311#msg574311)
Being a "fiendish" or avid reader does not necessarily improve someone's inherent skills in communication.
That's true, reading won't necessarily make a good conversationalist, but reading good literature can help us to formulate, clarify and express our thoughts, if only to ourselves and that goes a long way to understanding and coping with what situations we find ourselves in. No?
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That's true, reading won't necessarily make a good conversationalist, but reading good literature can help us to formulate, clarify and express our thoughts, if only to ourselves and that goes a long way to understanding and coping with what situations we find ourselves in. No?
Now you're talkin'.
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Replace the word 'worse' with 'less coherent'. I'll have to refine my writing skills.
(https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=46933.msg574311#msg574311)That's true, reading won't necessarily make a good conversationalist, but reading good literature can help us to formulate, clarify and express our thoughts, if only to ourselves and that goes a long way to understanding and coping with what situations we find ourselves in. No?
My Dad had a friend that was a self-made man, very successful in business despite having the minimum of formal education. The man would write a letter, and would put at the end:
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Dad asked him why he did that, and he said he did it so those reading the letter could put them wherever they were supposed to go.
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The Desert Fathers were blessed with wisdom from above. It was they who forsook the world to live in barren, hot, and hostile deserts. They did not have to rely on Fake News, as they survived on prayers and on the meager food they could grow, the bread baked by the faithful, and whatever the angels fed them in times of need.
We, like them, may need to escape to deserts, deserted mountains, the rocky wilderness, and caves if we are to preserve our faith.
NEWSFLASH!
some who watch Fox also escape to the desert(s) once in awhile
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Apologies, Graceseeker, I just noticed this on yet another of your many posts on mainstream media:
Praying the Rosary is a great plus for you as a Graceseeker.
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Matthew used to have a great thread permanently on his front page (pinned) about the dangers inherent in watching TV. You should check it out.
.
https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/television-excellent-article!-a-must-read!/
I don't know why but the "excellent article" has disappeared, but the thread remains.
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I never "know what's going on in the capital". I feel no loss for not knowing. I get most of my news from my hushand, CathInfo and books. I am reasonably well informed for my needs.
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The trouble with dependence on TV and Fox News:
You don't get the truth or the full story
While your watching TV you are not using your mind,
you being forcefed what somebody else wants you to believe or think.
You are bombarded with advertising and pornographic imagery
In most homes, the TV replaces the altar as the central point and so becomes an idol.
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That's just a few reasons not to watch.
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for one thing, I can watch what you call porn commercials and not get titillated in the slightest. In fact, sex bores me so no one is selling anything to ME through sex..
for another thing you cannot be well informed if all u do is listen to someone's interpretation of the news.. reminds me of protestant ministers and the compliant congregations a lot of them have... "Oh my pastor said this/that..!:"
the pope could say the same thing and...
ok, scratch that
A practicing Catholic could say the same thing and they would ARGUE with it
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...I can watch what you call porn commercials and not get titillated in the slightest. In fact, sex bores me so no one is selling anything to ME through sex..
for another thing you cannot be well informed if all u do is listen to someone's interpretation of the news..
Isn't that what you do - listen to someone's interpretation of the news on TV?
I didn't mention porn commercials. I said "advertising and pornographic imagery". Watching TV you are constantly bombarded with "information" which you don't have the time or the concentration to analyse and discern and so your listening and reading skills are diminished.
Here is a post on that thread television-excellent-article!-a-must-read!/ (https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/television-excellent-article!-a-must-read!/) posted by Thursday back in 2010:
Two books that convinced me never to watch TV again where Jerry Morans's Four arguments for the elimination of television and Edward Bernay's Propaganda.
You really have no idea how bad television is until you read that book. One thing I remember from the book was about brainwaves while watching television. The screen has a flickering that induces a hypnotic state so the messages that come on the screen are beamed deep into the psyche, therefore television is messing with people on a really deep level and people have no idea about it.
The other book propaganda, written in 1928, was shocking because of how advanced thr techniques for controlling thoughts and opinions was 80 years ago, I can't imagine what they have now. Whatever it is though you know its being transmitted through the television.
Bottom line is this, its doing things to you that you don't know about. Don't watch it.
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Here is a post on that thread television-excellent-article!-a-must-read!/ (https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/television-excellent-article!-a-must-read!/) posted by Thursday back in 2010:
Two books that convinced me never to watch TV again where Jerry Morans's Four arguments for the elimination of television and Edward Bernay's Propaganda.
You really have no idea how bad television is until you read that book. One thing I remember from the book was about brainwaves while watching television. The screen has a flickering that induces a hypnotic state so the messages that come on the screen are beamed deep into the psyche, therefore television is messing with people on a really deep level and people have no idea about it.
The other book propaganda, written in 1928, was shocking because of how advanced thr techniques for controlling thoughts and opinions was 80 years ago, I can't imagine what they have now. Whatever it is though you know its being transmitted through the television.
Bottom line is this, its doing things to you that you don't know about. Don't watch it.
Nadir,
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Thanks for these recommendations. I had heard about Jerry Mander's book, but while in college, my professors continually attacked it saying that TV viewing does not lead to violence. Thus, I never read it.
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I can truthfully say that getting rid of TV was the best thing that my husband and I did. For example, the satanic soundtracks and their beats depicting running and panic, which were used in certain programs depicting serial murders, caused me nightmares. Even though I would leave the room, he would turn up the volume so those awful sounds permeated our home. Once he stopped listening to those programs, my nightmares disappeared. Since my husband was in broadcasting engineering, he had become quite addicted to TV during his career.
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For those interested in buying Jerry Mander's from Amazon, here is the link:
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0688082742/ref=x_gr_w_bb_sout?ie=utf8&tag=x_gr_w_bb_sout-20&linkcode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeasin=0688082742&subscriptionid=1mgpyb6yw3hwk55xcgg2
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Have you read Jerry Mander's other book?
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https://www.amazon.com/Absence-Sacred-Failure-Technology-Survival/dp/0871565099/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RWQ0YWJF9B5ZMMJBV3AK&dpID=51u68xNh9vL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=detail
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I find that staying "too" informed on the goings on in the world is just depressing and can even be detrimental to prayer and faith. Scanning the headlines to see the important world events every few days is probably enough. Reading details of atrocities and worries about wars (and rumors of wars) just feeds anxieties. I certainly have no need to know what the Kardashians et al are up to.
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It is not good to be ignorant about what is going on in the world
I know you shouldn't spend every spare moment in front of the TV watching.. anything. But if no American ever found out what is happening in DC.. with tax money and all... well,
some say it doesn't do any good to complain about such things anyway.
well, that may be true.. but it seems to me that if enough people complain about this/that... Jeff Flake is not running for re-election b/c.. I guess b/c he won't be re-elected, does not have a high approval rating.. So you know... it pays to follow such things, pays to know that certain people are not doing what you thought they'd be doing.
the problem is.. many good people stay out of public office b/c...
laugh
b/c they are good people... they don't like DC
can you blame them?
I mean some of us just want to be with Jesus all the time... not his Enemy... The Dems in DC serve Satan. The rinos... well, is there much difference btwn Dems and rinos?? not much
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I find that staying "too" informed on the goings on in the world is just depressing and can even be detrimental to prayer and faith. Scanning the headlines to see the important world events every few days is probably enough. Reading details of atrocities and worries about wars (and rumors of wars) just feeds anxieties. I certainly have no need to know what the Kardashians et al are up to.
don't consider the Ks newsworthy
headlines only?
that doesn't tell u a thing
if no one ever stayed informed, no one could run for office. And we would have idiots in office only... which may be the case anyway... so uh... Was it Emily Latella... "never mind"?
I don't know.. Sean Hannity seems well informed... good show last night.