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Author Topic: do you think JP II is a saint? Y not JP I??? Pius XII?  (Read 2211 times)

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Offline DZ PLEASE

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Re: do you think JP II is a saint? Y not JP I??? Pius XII?
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2017, 12:11:00 PM »
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  • a priest who is ordained w/ no intention of living the l ife of a priest

    is not a priest.

    that is my opinion. I don't know what the Church officially teaches. But it would be like me joining the Dem party just to infiltrate or spy or whatever. Does that make me a Dem?
    You need to be extremely careful in matters like these; subjects like "intention" are very involved.

    For example, what kind of intention?

    It sounds to me like you're describing at least two different kinds of persons:
    1. The "Ecclesial slacker" (privation of intent)
    2. The committed, deliberate and malicious adversary. (positive malicious intent)

    The first hardly has the sand or the gumption to be the latter.

    Then there is intention as pertains to sacraments.

    Q: You find out that your "bishop" is a mason; what sacraments, if any, administered by him are valid?
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: do you think JP II is a saint? Y not JP I??? Pius XII?
    « Reply #16 on: October 21, 2017, 06:58:41 PM »
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  • that's a good quote.
    I notice that, looking back @ my life, I was always doing way better when I read Catholic books every day, whtehr on the saints or related stuff..
    Thanks
    I thought it good. Keep on reading holy books. Do you like this one?
    'I wish thy heart to serve Me as a refuge wherein I may withdraw and take My delight when sinners persecute and drive Me from theirs.'
    The Lord, to St. Margaret Mary Alacoque

    http://www.saintsquotes.net/index.htm is like a Lucky Dip.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


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    Re: do you think JP II is a saint? Y not JP I??? Pius XII?
    « Reply #17 on: October 21, 2017, 11:30:21 PM »
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  • a priest who is ordained w/ no intention of living the l ife of a priest

    is not a priest.

    that is my opinion. I don't know what the Church officially teaches. But it would be like me joining the Dem party just to infiltrate or spy or whatever. Does that make me a Dem?
    Ex opere operantis Christi - That means that it does not depend on the holiness or lack thereof of the priest for the sacraments to be valid.

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    Re: do you think JP II is a saint? Y not JP I??? Pius XII?
    « Reply #18 on: October 23, 2017, 03:30:14 PM »
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  • I thought it good. Keep on reading holy books. Do you like this one?
    'I wish thy heart to serve Me as a refuge wherein I may withdraw and take My delight when sinners persecute and drive Me from theirs.'
    The Lord, to St. Margaret Mary Alacoque

    http://www.saintsquotes.net/index.htm is like a Lucky Dip.
    yes, that's great
    I definitely see people persecuting Jesus through ME
    most don't see Jesus in me, although he is obviously there (obvious to me anyhow)

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    Re: do you think JP II is a saint? Y not JP I??? Pius XII?
    « Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 05:23:06 PM »
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  • How about this one, Graceseeker?


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    'I must work with all my strength to destroy self-love and self-interest.'  St. Bernadette Soubirous


    http://www.saintsquotes.net/index.htm
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.