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Mark 79 · « **on:** November 25, 2022, 06:59:25 PM »

I never had occasion to pay any real attention to Fuentes, but someone out this in front of me today—and I am loving it!

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1596252018854793219

Charity · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2022, 07:37:36 PM »

https://www.axios.com/2022/11/25/trump-nick-fuentes-ye-kanye

Updated 4 hours ago - Politics & Policy
Trump talks with white nationalist Nick Fuentes at Mar-a-Lago dinner

Nick Fuentes (center) with Alex Jones at a "Stop the Steal" rally in Georgia on Nov. 19, 2020. Photo: Zach Roberts/NurPhoto via Getty Images

Former President Trump dined and conversed with white nationalist Nick Fuentes and rapper Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, at his Mar-a-Lago resort on Tuesday night, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
Why it matters: Trump's direct engagement with a man labeled a "white supremacist" by the Justice Department, one week after declaring his 2024 candidacy, is likely to draw renewed outrage over the former president's embrace of extremists.

Fuentes, who frequently promotes racist and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, had been spotted with Ye at Mar-a-Lago, but reports erroneously suggested he did not have dinner with the former president.

What they're saying: "Kanye West very much wanted to visit Mar-a-Lago. Our dinner meeting was intended to be Kanye and me only, but he arrived with a guest whom I had never met and knew nothing about," Trump said in a statement.

A Trump spokesman did not provide comment on additional reporting about the dinner. Fuentes did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Behind the scenes: A source familiar with the dinner conversation told Axios that Trump "seemed very taken" with Fuentes, impressed that the 24-year-old was able to rattle off statistics and recall speeches dating back to his 2016 campaign.

Paraphrasing the conversation, the source said Fuentes told the president he preferred him to be "authentic," and that Trump seemed scripted and unlike himself during his recent 2024 campaign announcement speech.
Trump responded, “You like it better when I just speak off the cuff," the source said. Fuentes replied that he did, calling Trump an "amazing" president when he was unrestrained. "There was a lot of fawning back and forth," the source added.

Fuentes told Trump that he represented a side of Trump's base that was disappointed with his newly cautious approach, especially with what some far-right activists view as a lack of support for those charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.

Trump didn't disagree with Fuentes, but said he has advisers who want him to read off teleprompters and be more "presidential." Notably, Trump referred to himself as a politician, which he has been loathe to do in the past.
Fuentes also told Trump that he would crush potential 2024 Republican rivals in a primary, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. Trump asked for Fuentes' opinion on other candidates as well.

Trump at one point turned to Ye and said, "I really like this guy. He gets me," according to the source.

"To be honest, I don't believe the president knew who the hell [Fuentes] was," the source added.

Trump asked if Fuentes was on social media such as Truth Social, the former president's alternative to Twitter.

Fuentes told Trump that he was on Truth Social but had been banned from the social media platform Gettr because Trump adviser Jason Miller, the CEO of the company, wasn't a fan of his.
Trump asked whether it was because Fuentes was on the "fringe" of his supporter base, the source said. Fuentes acknowledged that he was, saying he's "one of those people who got banned from everything."

Driving the news: Ye, whose Twitter account was recently restored after being restricted for anti-Semitic comments, posted a video on Thursday night titled "Mar-a-Lago debrief."

Ye claims in the video that Trump was "really impressed" with Fuentes because "unlike so many of the lawyers and so many people that he was left with on his 2020 campaign, he's actually a loyalist."
A source familiar with the conversation told Axios Trump took a phone call during the dinner, and his demeanor toward Ye seemed to change when he got off the call. Trump made some nasty comments about Ye's ex-wife, Kim Kardashian, and told the rapper to pass them on.
Ye, who has lost major sponsorships over his anti-Semitism and recent far-right associations, has said he wants to run for president in 2024. The rapper claims Trump started "screaming" at him at the dinner and told him he would lose — "most perturbed" by Ye asking Trump to be his running mate.

Between the lines: The Daily Beast reported Wednesday that Fuentes was not present at the Mar-a-Lago dinner with Ye, citing a source familiar with the matter.

Ye tweeted out a screenshot of a group text with Fuentes on Thursday night in which a censored participant accuses a Trump adviser of being the source for the Daily Beast story.
Disgraced far-right commentator Milo Yiannopoulos, who appears with Ye in his "Mar-a-Lago debrief" video, is also in the "YE24" group chat.

Flashback: Truth Social, Trump's social media platform, sparked backlash by verifying Fuentes' account in February.

Fuentes first gained notoriety after attending the white supremacist "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville in 2017.
Trump was heavily criticized at the time for his response to the racist violence.

Editor's note: This story has been updated with additional reporting and a statement from Trump.

Charity · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2022, 08:04:36 PM »

Some real gems on here!
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch

Mark 79 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2022, 08:20:15 PM »

Quote from: Charity on November 25, 2022, 08:04:36 PM

Some real gems on here!
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch

Among the short list of things I like about Trump is that he "loosened America's tongues" to say some things that neede dto be stated clearly and without the muzzled obliquities.

Apparently this Fuentes guy has a pretty loose tongue too. Odd though that he seems enamored of Trump.

Anyway, theatre or not, it is sooooo refreshing to hear things spoken in the clear.

DigitalLogos · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2022, 08:31:54 PM »

I don't trust Fuentes, as I've said on here before, but this is a step in the "right" direction of WWE politics.

StLouisIX · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2022, 09:21:41 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on November 25, 2022, 06:59:25 PM

I never had occasion to pay any real attention to Fuentes, but someone out this in front of me today—and I am loving it!

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1596252018854793219

There's more than meets the eye with this guy. He's a grifter and an outright opportunist.

For example, he endorsed Laura ((Loomer)), a rabid Zionist on the basis that she is good on "some of the issues":

https://t.me/nickjfuentes/7644

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Laura Loomer is ahead in fundraising, supports an immigration moratorium and mass deportations. She is speaking at AmRen 2022 and is America First.

I officially endorse her candidacy for Congress in FL-11!

posted on July 23, 2022

As this the author of this article pointed out:

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Loomer correctly sees Muslims as a problem, but like every Alt-Light gatekeeper, will pretend like Jєωs aren’t involved in creating the immigration mess. Or if she does acknowledge it, she will attribute their behavior to leftist ideology instead of the real truth, that they pursue left-wing policies to secure Jєωιѕн tribal interests. She is probably totally in denial about this because she’s ethnically loyal to her tribe and doesn’t want harm to come to them.

That makes her a problem. She will never truly side with White people or even Christians because that would mean abandoning her own tribal affiliations. “Right-wing” Jєωs are fighting a losing battle against their left-wing counterparts. And even if they’re genuine in their beliefs, they will forever stand in the way of Whites making a clean break from their tribe’s domination over us.

Of course, after she lost her recent election, Fuentes felt comfortable with pivoting back to talking about the JQ as if he hadn't endorsed a fanatical member of the tribe. Truly a "we were always at war with Eastasia" moment, and there have been many like this in the sad history of his "movement".

Additionally, he is actually anti-family, as he has unironically aligned himself with "incels" and genuinely hates women. See here an analysis of some of his statements, albeit by a Catholic of a somewhat modernist slant:

(WARNING: Some swearing in this one)

https://odysee.com/@Argent:9/fuesntesmegacope:4

Furthermore, he possesses entirely delusional views on Russia and China, seeing these two nations as prospective "liberators" of America. He's like a Protestant waiting for the Rapture; he wants to put in no work and wait for a "savior" to destroy the bad guys and restore civilization. Here he is late last year on an unhinged rant about how great China is!

WARNING: Quite a bit of swearing in these.

Never mind the fact that while Trump was still in office, he vehemently opposed China because that was Trump's position.

Though I do not have the clips, he has said in the past that he doesn't see the issue with the New Mass, and spoke openly against "Latin Mass purists". People who were close to him who have since left his movement have related stories that he shied away from praying the rosary with his supporters and seemed quite neglectful of the Sacraments.

This thread briefly summarizes the history of this loser's failed "political career":

https://archive.ph/E5pIB

Now that talking about the JQ is more mainstream because of Kanye, of course he's hopping right on the bandwagon, because this is his only shot at the pathetic "fame" he's been vying for.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2022, 10:10:46 PM »

That fits the most basic of patterns: Anyone and everyone who reaches a level of visibility in (((their))) media is flawed.

As I mentioned I haven't really paid him any real attention, but what has been put in front of me today (thank you!) reveals Fuentes's double-mindedness, something that should be, but is not, foreign to Catholics. The double-mindedness really serves the SS because the flaws lead to the dead-ends of their cognitive infiltration, so necessary to them to lead people away from the full flowered (Catholic) Truth, capital "T"! What the hell is Fuentes doing glad-handing Trump, blowing smoke up (((Loomer's))) whatever, and that fαɢɢօt Milo??? Serious double-mindedness.

I still love his COG-not-ZOG comments.

Incidentally (((Loomer))) was all over GAB for a while, but GABBERS pretty well fixed her wagon. She drooped off teh GAB radar after she took heavy incoming, including this one when she claimed, 'There's no such thing as Palestine":

Charity · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2022, 10:46:45 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on November 25, 2022, 10:10:46 PM

That fits the most basic of patterns: Anyone and everyone who reaches a level of visibility in (((their))) media is flawed.

As I mentioned I haven't really paid him any real attention, but what has been put in front of me today (thank you!) reveals Fuentes's double-mindedness, something that should be, but is not, foreign to Catholics. The double-mindedness really serves the SS because the flaws lead to the dead-ends of their cognitive infiltration, so necessary to them to lead people away from the full flowered (Catholic) Truth, capital "T"! What the hell is Fuentes doing glad-handing Trump, blowing smoke up (((Loomer's))) whatever, and that fαɢɢօt Milo??? Serious double-mindedness.

I still love his COG-not-ZOG comments.

Incidentally (((Loomer))) was all over GAB for a while, but GABBERS pretty well fixed her wagon. She drooped off teh GAB radar after she took heavy incoming, including this one when she claimed, 'There's no such thing as Palestine":

Seems like Loomer is in the Zionist loop with Ann Barnhardt.

Charity · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2022, 10:47:46 PM »

ADL on Nick Fuentes: https://www.adl.org/blog/nicholas-j-fuentes-five-things-to-know

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Nicholas J. Fuentes: Five Things to Know

Published: 07.08.2021

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July 08, 2021
^{Nicholas Fuentes hosting his weekly livestream "America First with Nicholas Fuentes"}

1. Nicholas Fuentes is a white supremacist leader and organizer and podcaster who seeks to forge a white nationalist alternative to the mainstream GOP.
Nicholas Fuentes first gained widespread notoriety in 2017 when he left Boston University after he reported receiving “threats” tied to his attendance at the white supremacist “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
He has since become a prominent white supremacist pundit and organizer who has united disparate groups within what was until recently known as the alt right. In 2017, Fuentes began hosting his livestream show America First with Nicholas J. Fuentes, which attracted a cult-like following. Fuentes refers to these supporters as “Groypers” or the “Groyper Army,” who see their bigoted views as necessary to preserve white, European-American identity and culture. They believe that the mainstream conservative movement is just as responsible as liberals and the left for destroying white America, and that Groypers are the true future of the conservative movement.
Fuentes seeks to carve out a space that deliberately and publicly challenges the mainstream conservative movement while doubling down on themes central to the white supremacist movement. Fuentes and his America First adherents vocally support the closure of the U.S. borders to immigrants, while opposing “liberal” values such as feminism and LGBTQ+ rights. Fuentes views these societal changes as the “bastardized Jєωιѕн subversion of the American creed. The Founders never intended for America to be a refugee camp for nonwhite people.” He often uses his platform to further conspiracy theories about the impending destruction of the white race, also known as “white genocide.” In one Tweet, Fuentes stated, “Our civilization is being dismantled, our people are being genocided, and conservatives can’t think past what will play well with liberal media in the next election.”
His podcast, titled “America First,” was initially inspired by the speeches and platform of former President Donald Trump. However, Fuentes later adopted the term for his own purposes after distancing himself from the GOP platform to attract young conservatives. Fuentes and his followers angrily objected to the Trump administration’s embrace of Israel, as well as mainstream conservatives’ support for “globalism,” (a right-wing slur/theory about a cabal of elites who are controlling the world), “endless wars” and other issues they felt ran counter to a truly “America First” agenda.
In an effort to further distance himself from the mainstream GOP, Fuentes founded the America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC) in 2020. AFPAC ostensibly serves as a counterweight to the annual CPAC event held at the same time, which is largely attended by mainstream conservative activists and elected officials. In 2021, AFPAC included a variety of right-wing pundits, including Michelle Malkin and Steve King, along with white supremacists like Vincent James Foxx of the Red Elephant. Speakers expressed contempt for the Republican Party, describing members as sell-outs willing to betray their constituents.

AFPAC 2021: (Left to Right) Paul Gosar, Steve King, Nick Fuentes, Michelle Malkin, Jon Miller and Vincent James - Twitter

2) Nicholas Fuentes believes that he is working to defend against “leftist” cultural changes that are destroying the “true America:” a white, Christian nation.
While Fuentes promotes white supremacist beliefs, he adamantly claims not to be a white supremacist, calling the term an “anti-white slur.” Rather, Fuentes positions himself as “Christian conservative” who opposes societal shifts – on immigration, abortion and more -- as nefarious efforts, led by the left, to fundamentally erode America’s Christian values. This cloaking of ideology is a ploy to attract mainstream support and distract from the group’s fundamentally white supremacist ideology.
Fuentes often pulls on themes prevalent in the white supremacist Great Replacement Theory, or what Fuentes calls “Great Replacement REALITY.” This idea focuses on the belief that native white Europeans are being replaced in their own countries by non-white immigrants from Africa and the Middle East, with the end result being the extinction of the white race. Fuentes tweeted in June, “If you are a White male zoomer, remember that the people in power hate you and your unborn children and they will try to genocide you in your lifetime.” Fuentes attempts to streamline his extreme ideology by aligning himself with “Christianity” and “traditional” values. During his AFPAC keynote speech, Fuentes asserted that even though adherents of the America First movement are “sheep among the wolves and the snakes,” they will ultimately prevail as they “have the protection of God and Jesus.”
Fuentes rejects the mainstream Republican Party, claiming that many Groypers, including himself, were once strong Trump supporters but are now angry that the Republican Party is not doing enough to deal with demographic and cultural changes that affect the white population in the U.S. According to Fuentes, “the new Republican Party is the party of climate change, universal health care and black lives matter.” Fuentes and his followers often dress in suits and ties to project a “mainstream” conservative image, highlighting the Groyper’s central goal of disrupting and replacing the established GOP. Fuentes says his vision is to “redefine the right-wing by solidifying the political realignment that Donald Trump initiated in 2016” under the banner, slogan and principles of America First.

Like many other right-wing extremists, Fuentes often blankets his bigoted beliefs in sarcasm and ironic humor; he uses cartoonish memes and “just joking” banter, all while spreading white supremacist propaganda. During an April taping of his show, Fuentes responded to an audience member’s question about how to respond to his wife “getting out of line,” saying, “Why don’t you give her a vicious and forceful backhanded slap with your knuckles right across her face – disrespectfully – and make it hurt?...Just kidding of course…just a joke…I would never lay a hand on a women, unless she had it coming.” Fuentes often uses terms like “culture” as substitutes for more divisive terms such as “race,” and promotes “American values” as a code for white culture and identity. Fuentes largely avoids blatant white supremacist language, and instead focuses on anti-establishment thinking targeting the GOP, mainstream media and “leftists.” This strategy, along with adoption of mainstream meme culture like Pepe the Frog, allows the America First movement to attract younger, mainstream conservatives, who are then exposed to the group’s extremist ideology.

Nicholas Fuentes at MAGA Million March on November 14, 2020. Fuentes served a prominent role in promoting and organizing Stop the Steal events nationwide.

3) Fuentes has used his platforms to make numerous antisemitic and racist comments.
Fuentes has made a number of racist and antisemitic comments under the guise of being provocative and ironic. For example, he has referred to Daily Wire columnist Matt Walsh as “shabbos goy race traitor” because he works for Jєωs (Ben Shapiro, a Jєωιѕн conservative, runs the Daily Wire). On a livestream episode, Fuentes “jokingly” denied the h0Ɩ0cαųst and compared Jєωs burnt in cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs to cookies in an oven. On May 24, 2021, Fuentes participated in a debate on right-wing conspiracist Alex Jones’ InfoWars with Robert Barnes, a man described as a “constitutional lawyer” who has legally defended both Jones and Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse. During the debate, Fuentes made numerous antisemitic remarks, including, "I don’t see Jєωs as Europeans and I don’t see them as part of Western civilization, particularly because they are not Christians.” In April, Fuentes appeared to urge mainstream Republicans to champion an antisemitic focus on “Jєωιѕн control,” tweeting, “The next big frontier for populist and conservative inc [sic; this is the America First term for establishment GOPers] to coopt [sic] is discussing Jєωιѕн Power. Somehow I don’t think they’ll broach that one!”
Fuentes asserts that “whites are under attack” and that minorities are changing the “texture of life” in America. Fuentes often speaks about the white supremacist ideas of “race realism,” a belief that one’s race governs traits such as behavior and intelligence – with non-whites being inferior to whites. For example, Fuentes tweeted, “Any serious person thinking about globalization and demographic changes should actually care a lot about racial differences in intelligence. But this subject doesn’t “interest” you because it’s not convenient for your trojan horse brand of kosher nationalism.”

Recently, Fuentes used the aftermath of the Derek Chauvin verdict as proof that minorities are “being put at the top of a racial caste system.” During the 2021 AFPAC, Fuentes remarked further on the rising civil rights movement championed by Black Lives Matter, stating “White people founded this country. This country wouldn’t exist without white people…people are done being bullied.” Fuentes has also made racist comments asserting that segregation and policies in the pre-civil rights-era American South “was better for them, it’s better for us, it’s better in general.”
Fuentes has repeatedly been suspended from a number of social media and video and audio sharing platforms, including YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, TikTok, Spotify, Venmo, Stripe, Clubhouse as well as numerous others, for violating terms of policy with his hateful, bigoted rhetoric and imagery. Most recently, he was banned from his podcast streaming service, DLive, following his attendance at the pro-Trump rally on January 6, and now hosts his show on Alex Jones’ platform, Banned.Video. This move to a more fringe platform service may prompt Fuentes to produce even more extreme content.
4) Fuentes promoted election fraud narratives and encouraged his adherents to participate in nationwide “Stop the Steal” protests.
Fuentes served as an organizer and speaker at many “Stop the Steal” protests leading up to the January 6 attack on the Capitol including protests in Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona and Washington, DC. Fuentes attended the Million MAGA March in November alongside fellow Groypers, where he addressed a crowd of American Firsters, stating, “We are not going to live as captives. This is our Republican Party. This is our country. USA!” In the days leading up to January 6, Fuentes continued to promote the myth of election fraud. On January 4, Fuentes posted a video on DLive tacitly urging followers to kill state legislators, before he seemed to backpedal: “What can you and I do to state legislators besides kill them? Although, I’m not advising that, but I mean, what else are you going to do?” In the lead up to January 6, Fuentes received an estimated $250,000 (13.5 bitcoins) in donations, supporting his attendance at the rally in Washington, DC.

Fuentes and other members of America First were present at the Capitol on January 6, about which Fuentes said, “This is awesome...we have been beat up and betrayed and spit on and stepped on for decades. And to see the tables turned for once was a little bit refreshing.” Fuentes was seen that day giving a speech near the Capitol encouraging his followers to “keep moving towards the Capitol – it appears we are taking the Capitol back!” While Fuentes does not appear to have physically entered the Capitol building, individuals wearing America First merchandise appeared in videos and images inside the building.

America First flag inside the U.S. Capitol

On January 6, 2021 America First supporters illegally climbed up a podium that had been set up for the 2021 Presidential Inauguration. There they raised an America First flag.

Since the attack on the Capitol, Fuentes claims that his bank account has been frozen, he has been placed on the federal no-fly list, and has been banned from Airbnb, Facebook and Instagram. Fuentes described these actions as “overt political persecution.” Due to this alleged ban, Fuentes was unable to attend the Big Tech Press Conference in Florida, an event he organized with a variety of right-wing pundit speakers including Michele Malkin and Laura Loomer. Although Fuentes links his no-fly status to the Capitol riot, Fuentes reportedly had an altercation on a December flight over the issue of mask mandates.

5) Fuentes has been embraced and praised by a spectrum of far right-wing fringe conservatives, providing him a larger platform for elevating the America First movement.
Fuentes has been embraced by a variety of figures on the far-right, from fringe GOP figures to dedicated white supremacists. His success in attracting a sizeable attendance—as well as right wing-influencers and elected officials—to his events, like AFPAC and the Big Tech Conference in Florida, show the rallying effect of Fuentes and the America First movement. Right-wing pundit Michelle Malkin, who has recently embraced white supremacist rhetoric, has aligned herself with the America First movement, praising their “shared mission to end mass migration, restore law and order, and conserve and uphold actual conservative values.”
Fuentes has attracted the attention of elected officials, including U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona’s 4th congressional district. Fuentes claimed to be hosting a fundraiser and roundtable event in honor of Rep. Paul Gosar on July 2nd in Phoenix, Arizona. While Gosar has in the past participated in America First events, including the 2021 AFPAC, Gosar at this time claims to have had no prior knowledge of this fundraiser. Gosar has routinely appealed to the America First movement, tweeting in response to the outrage regarding his own appearance at the 2021 AFPAC, “Not sure why anyone is freaking out. I’ll say this: there are millions of Gen Z, Y and X conservatives. They believe in America First. They will not agree 100% on every issue. No group does. We will not let the left dictate our strategy, alliances and efforts. Ignore the left.” The upcoming event between Fuentes and Paul Gosar is part of Fuentes’ “White Boy Summer” road trip.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2022, 11:18:33 PM »

It's a good thing to evangelize those who desperately need it. It's entirely the opposite to play footsies with people like Loomer, Malkin, et al.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 26, 2022, 12:54:44 PM »

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Mark 79 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 26, 2022, 12:57:22 PM »

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Milo has an official 302, and he has possibly worked as an agent for Jonathan Greenblatt at ADL, it would appear. Let that sink in, because the implications are vast. If Milo has a 302 file, I would tend to assume Cernovich has a 302 file. Cassandra Fairbanks likely would have a 302 as well since she was a leftist activist before becoming a right-wing personality, and for a while she dated a Breitbart reporter who was also an FBI asset, IIRC. Then you start looking at the people on “our side” and ask who else has a 302? Nick Fuentes? [Side note, this infographic of how fucked up this whole area is, features one of Nick Fuentes’ buddies, allegedly showing his FBI handler’s card, so even no-name cling-ons of Nick Fuentes have 302 files] Is Ben Shapiro on the books with FBI? Richard Spencer? Does Bill Kristol have a 302 file? Jonah Goldberg? Rich Lowry at National Review? I would bet William F. Buckley had one. What about thot-dom? Lauren Southern? Faith Goldy? What about the thots from the Jєωιѕн pornographer modeling site? Candace Owen? Tomi Lahren? Mellissa Carone?

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/

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