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China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
« on: December 02, 2022, 11:52:31 PM »
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    The Chinese Foreign Ministry demanded in remarks on Wednesday that U.S. armed forces make “substantial and substantive cuts to its nuclear arsenal,” with the goal of ultimately ending America’s nuclear program.

    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian – a zealous “wolf warrior” diplomat known for spreading the unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that the Chinese coronavirus pandemic began as e-cigarette lung injuries in Maryland – demanded an end to the American nuclear program in response to a question on a Pentagon report revealing that the Chinese Communist Party is working to dramatically expand its own nuclear capabilities.

    China’s opposition to America possessing nuclear weapons places it in line with the longtime foreign policy of North Korea, which is to support “denuclearization” by removing American forces, which have access to nuclear weapons, from the Korean peninsula, rather than defining the term as meaning an end to North Korea’s illegal nuclear program. North Korea, a Chinese client state, has since changed its policies, outlawing denuclearization in September.

    China, unlike North Korea, is a signatory and legally recognized nuclear state under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. China insists that the expansions of its nuclear arsenal are not a violation of international law because they are pursued with the aim of “modernizing,” not expanding, capabilities.

    The Pentagon report, delivered to Congress, revealed that the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) is seeking, according to U.S. information, to grow the number of nuclear warheads it possesses from about 400 to as many as 1,500 warheads in 13 years, by 2035. The prediction is based on the speed with which the Chinese military worked on expanding its nuclear arsenal and its other activities in 2021.

    “The PRC has clearly stated its ambition to strengthen its “strategic deterrent,” and has continued to accelerate the modernization, diversification, and expansion of its nuclear forces, as well as the development of its space and counterspace capabilities,” the Defense Department asserted in a fact sheet on its report to Congress.

    The report, titled, “China Military Power,” also takes a holistic look at the PLA and China as a competitive power to the United States, declaring the Communist Party “the most consequential and systemic challenge to our national security and to a free and open international system.” The Defense Department emphasized that China has also grown increasingly belligerent militarily in the South China Sea, the majority of which it claims illegally for itself, and that its mounting threats against the nation of Taiwan also pose a significant threat to global stability.

    China does not recognize Taiwan’s sovereignty and considers the country a rogue “province” of China. Dictator Xi Jinping declared in 2017 that China would ensure that Taiwanese people and those who support the nation’s right to self-determination, along with those supporting anti-communist movements in Hong Kong and Tibet, would have their “bones ground to powder.”

    Asked about the report on Wednesday, Zhao, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, insisted that America is a volatile threat to the world’s nuclear security and demanded Washington destroy its nuclear arsenal.

    “The U.S. has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. It has in recent years kept upgrading its ‘nuclear triad,’ and strengthening the role of nuclear weapons in its national security policies,” Zhao said. “To this day, the U.S. still clings to a nuclear deterrence policy based on first use of nuclear weapons, and openly devises nuclear deterrence strategies against particular countries. The U.S. is engaged in nuclear submarine cooperation with the UK and Australia, which violates the object and purposes of the NPT [Nonproliferation Treaty].”

    “What the U.S. should do is seriously reflect on its nuclear policy, abandon the Cold War mentality and hegemonic logic, stop disrupting global strategic stability,” Zhao demanded, “step up to its special and primary responsibilities in nuclear disarmament, and further take substantial and substantive cuts to its nuclear arsenal, so as to create conditions for attaining the ultimate goal of complete and thorough nuclear disarmament.”

    Zhao also insisted that China maintains a “self-defensive nuclear strategy” and would never use a nuclear weapon preemptively.

    Despite Zhao’s claims, China has faced global concern and condemnation for its expanding nuclear capabilities, docuмented in multiple reports beyond the Pentagon’s latest assessment this week. In response to the Pentagon’s annual China report in 2021, which found that Beijing could possess as many as 1,000 nuclear warheads by 2030, the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (ICAN) accused China of violating international law.

    “Overall, all states should condemn China’s rapidly increasing and strengthening nuclear arsenal,” ICAN advised last year, citing extensive evidence of China’s intent to grew its nuclear capabilities. “With the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons in conjunction with many other treaties, this goes against international law.”

    At the time, beyond the Pentagon’s predictions, satellite images of Chinese military facilities appeared to reveal that China was investing not just in building more nuclear warheads, but in more ways to deliver nuclear payloads.

    “Over the past few decades, China had maintained only about twenty silo-based intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). But recent evidence from independent U.S. experts shows that the country is likely constructing more than 200 new missile silos,” Tong Zhao wrote in a commentary for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a think tank, last year. “China’s current program to modernize and update its nuclear weapons is moving at an unprecedented speed and scale.”
    Source: Frances Martel @ Breitbart (link)


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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #1 on: December 03, 2022, 11:35:18 AM »
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  • Source: Frances Martel @ Breitbart (link)

    My response to China would be inspired by what Hank Schrader said in Breaking Bad:

    "My name is ASAC Schrader and you can go **** yourself"




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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #2 on: December 03, 2022, 11:59:19 AM »
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  • :laugh1::laugh2:

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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #3 on: December 04, 2022, 01:38:27 PM »
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  • Alois Irlmaier foresaw the Chicoms invading America, but not staying.

    The question is, what will make them leave?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #4 on: December 04, 2022, 01:48:53 PM »
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  • The question is, what will make them leave?
    I think we raised the possibility of an American superweapon waiting in the wings. Some people believe fake ETs will intervene. Lots of possibilities, especially if it's a scam to usher in global governance. It might not be too much longer now...


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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #5 on: December 04, 2022, 02:08:20 PM »
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  • As much as evangelicals have tried to fit the US into their absurd eschatological fantasies
    I think it's pretty clear from scripture, the saints, and various private revelations that
    America will be at such a point of decline as a world power...or annihilated, by the time the
    antichrist arrives on the world stage, as to be inconsequential. I suspect the same of China.
    At most they are very peripheral players despite their seeming dominance at the moment.
    The events of Revelation will play out almost exclusively in central Europe and in the Middle East.
    How the Russian/Ukraine conflict unfolds will be very revealing.
    Nothing like a world war to flip the chessboard and refigure the globe.
    I expect a series of fαℓѕє fℓαg events in the coming years...more pandemics, famines, EMP attacks,
    and even a phony UFO attack.


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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #6 on: December 04, 2022, 02:20:49 PM »
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  • Indeed, BernardoGui. In fact, some of the prophecies we've looked at on CathInfo talk about how America, England, Russia and China in particular will be ruined from the war and at least America will never be a world power again. I expect World War III and other events will result in a very different geopolitical situation, similar to what occurred through the first two Great Wars.

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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #7 on: December 04, 2022, 02:30:40 PM »
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  • I think we raised the possibility of an American superweapon waiting in the wings. Some people believe fake ETs will intervene. Lots of possibilities, especially if it's a scam to usher in global governance. It might not be too much longer now...


    Know an Irish Intel scientist, who believes in Alois's visions that the Chicoms would invade through the West Coast.
     From there, it's plausible that they would hold ground throughout the West. 

    But he speculated that besides a military counterattack, the one disruptive event that could send the Chinese packing,
     is an explosion of the Yellowstone Caldera.





    I sort of like that theory of a natural, "Fried Chinese" solution.  :popcorn:

    BTW, Alois saw that America would lose all it's territories and no longer be a super-power nation.


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #8 on: December 04, 2022, 02:40:45 PM »
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  • But he speculated that besides a military counterattack, the one disruptive event that could send the Chinese packing,
     is an explosion of the Yellowstone Calde
    This theory always makes me think of Krakatoa:

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    The 1883 Krakatoa eruption darkened the sky worldwide for years afterwards and produced spectacular sunsets throughout the world for many months.
    From Wikipedia (link)

    Imagine if Russia warheads impacting the missile silos out in the West disturbed Yellowstone and caused the event. Interesting to consider.

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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #9 on: December 04, 2022, 05:23:45 PM »
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  • Alois Irlmaier foresaw the Chicoms invading America, but not staying.

    The question is, what will make them leave?
    The 2nd Amendment.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #10 on: December 04, 2022, 05:27:05 PM »
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  • My response to China would be inspired by what Hank Schrader said in Breaking Bad:

    "My name is ASAC Schrader and you can go **** yourself"

    Wish that were true.

    However, back here in reality we have LGBTQI troops training in high heels, a male general who wears dresses, and Commander in Chief who doesn't know what day it is, where he is, who is wife is, and needs a cue card to tell him to sit down in the chair.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary


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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #11 on: December 04, 2022, 05:47:00 PM »
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  • The US and Chinese economies are completely linked and interdependent on each other.
    American consumers are dependent on their cheap products and the Chinese need us to buy them.
    Assuming however a conventional war would break out between both nations, the US would be crushed.
    I don't need to prove that with charts and statistics. Just spend 5 minutes in a Walmart and look around
    at what your fellow citizens looks like and ask yourself if these people could survive even a few weeks without
    basic necessities.

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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #12 on: December 04, 2022, 05:53:33 PM »
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  • Alois Irlmaier foresaw the Chicoms invading America, but not staying.

    The question is, what will make them leave?

    He said that they would invade the US via Alaska and Canada but would not get far ... suggesting that they're beaten back by the US / Canadian troops.  While the Chinese have an incredible 2-million-man army, there's the simple problem of getting them over the water to the US / Canada.

    I'm guessing from Irlmaier that the Chinese are emboldened to make the incursion after the Russians invade Europe, perhaps believing the US to be distracted or otherwise occupied with coming to the assistance of the NATO countries there.  But the Chinese likely haven't factored in the fact that most urban US populations are, uhm, heavily armed.

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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #13 on: December 04, 2022, 05:57:15 PM »
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  • Indeed, BernardoGui. In fact, some of the prophecies we've looked at on CathInfo talk about how America, England, Russia and China in particular will be ruined from the war and at least America will never be a world power again. I expect World War III and other events will result in a very different geopolitical situation, similar to what occurred through the first two Great Wars.

    Well, the US could easily be destroyed economically by China simply stopping exports to the US.  Unfortunately, the Jєωιѕн machinations (starting with Kissinger) have made the US economically dependent on China and incapable of manufacturing nearly anything ... from medicine, to basic consumer goods, electronics ... anything.  If Chinese imports into the US stopped today, what could the US actually manufacture independently?  Practically nothing.  Also, a destruction of our computer infrastructure would destroy the US economy.

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    Re: China Demands U.S. Destroy Its Nuclear Arsenal
    « Reply #14 on: December 04, 2022, 06:00:02 PM »
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  • The US and Chinese economies are completely linked and interdependent on each other.
    American consumers are dependent on their cheap products and the Chinese need us to buy them.
    Assuming however a conventional war would break out between both nations, the US would be crushed.
    I don't need to prove that with charts and statistics. Just spend 5 minutes in a Walmart and look around
    at what your fellow citizens looks like and ask yourself if these people could survive even a few weeks without
    basic necessities.

    I made my previous response without having read yours, but, yes, the US depends economically on China.

    If there were ground access into the US, I would agree that the US would be crushed.  How do you take on a 2-million-man army?  But the Chinese have to get them here first, the US maintain serious air and naval superiority over the Chinese.  I agree with Irlmaier that the Chinese wouldn't make it very far.