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Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
« on: July 04, 2018, 03:34:10 PM »
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  • What are your thoughts about Amy Coney Barrett, a Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court? She is a Notre Dame law professor who is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit.
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #1 on: July 04, 2018, 03:46:59 PM »
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  • What are your thoughts about Amy Coney Barrett, a Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court? She is a Notre Dame law professor who is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit.
     
    A real "Catholic mother of 7" wouldn't be anywhere around to be put on the "short list for Supreme Court."
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #2 on: July 04, 2018, 04:18:56 PM »
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  • Very strong conservative and Constitutionalist like Antonin Scalia, but there's a caveat here. Actually, two.

    1. Catholic, my tuches. She belongs to a Charismatic organization called "People of Praise" which is actively interecuмenical and heretical. Charismatics are Pentecostals who bought chasubles on the internet. 

    2. No federal judicial experience or judicial experience at all. Barely six months. Gorsuch had over a decade when appointed.
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #3 on: July 04, 2018, 04:21:46 PM »
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  • A real "Catholic mother of 7" wouldn't be anywhere around to be put on the "short list for Supreme Court."
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    I agree - if she has children they should be her priority. 

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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #4 on: July 04, 2018, 04:41:19 PM »
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  • I agree - if she has children they should be her priority.

    A law professor and a district attorney easily make a combined mid-to-high six-figures a year. Over $400k with her amount of experience and tenure. 

    People with that much money can easily hire a nanny and pay them very well. No, her children are not her priority, more than likely.
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #5 on: July 04, 2018, 05:29:20 PM »
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  • Well, despite it not being ideal, I would take that ... IF she's actually a strong traditionally-minded Catholic (in terms of morals in any case).  But that's a big IF in today's Novus Ordo establishment.  At the very least, despite her other faults, it seems like she wasn't limiting the number of children she had in the interests of her career.  I'd take a John-Paul-II-minded (morally conservative for the most part even if a doctrinal trainwreck otherwise) individual on the Supreme Court ... even if he made for a deplorable pope.  And, no, in the ideal world, I don't believe that women should be acting as judges.  But it would be better than the scuм we have in place now.

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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #6 on: July 08, 2018, 03:34:35 PM »
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  • Well, despite it not being ideal, I would take that ... IF she's actually a strong traditionally-minded Catholic (in terms of morals in any case).  But that's a big IF in today's Novus Ordo establishment.  At the very least, despite her other faults, it seems like she wasn't limiting the number of children she had in the interests of her career.  I'd take a John-Paul-II-minded (morally conservative for the most part even if a doctrinal trainwreck otherwise) individual on the Supreme Court ... even if he made for a deplorable pope.  And, no, in the ideal world, I don't believe that women should be acting as judges.  But it would be better than the scuм we have in place now.
    I agree. The ideal can be the enemy of the good. Maybe some trads would like her better if she were just a pro-life Protestant.
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #7 on: July 08, 2018, 05:09:51 PM »
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  • I agree. The ideal can be the enemy of the good. Maybe some trads would like her better if she were just a pro-life Protestant.
    Amy Barrett is also only 46 years old. In terms of the Supreme Court, that's very, very young. 

    Combine that with Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer being in their 80s and we have the potential for a majority Conservative court for generations.
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #8 on: July 08, 2018, 05:41:25 PM »
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  • I guess it is better than nothing; but I still really dislike the impression she gives that women successfully "can have it all" (career & family). The impression is really counterproductive because it is a lie; and it is especially dangerous in these times when girls are being corrupted by Feminism in an unprecedented level.

    If she was single and childless, she would not give such negative impression. She was not limiting the number of children true, but was she actually there mothering them, as she was building her career?
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #9 on: July 08, 2018, 07:00:21 PM »
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  • I agree. The ideal can be the enemy of the good. Maybe some trads would like her better if she were just a pro-life Protestant.

    Guess so, if "some trads" find Natural Law Relative and not Absolute...

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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #10 on: July 08, 2018, 07:30:14 PM »
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  • Guess so, if "some trads" find Natural Law Relative and not Absolute...
    Attached below is a source from Fox and an insider in the Administration claiming that Barrett is out of the running. So a Catholic mother of seven is likely not our next Supreme Court justice.
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #11 on: July 09, 2018, 02:04:26 PM »
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  • I guess it is better than nothing; but I still really dislike the impression she gives that women successfully "can have it all" (career & family). The impression is really counterproductive because it is a lie; and it is especially dangerous in these times when girls are being corrupted by Feminism in an unprecedented level.

    If she was single and childless, she would not give such negative impression. She was not limiting the number of children true, but was she actually there mothering them, as she was building her career?
    I would agree if she were only a movie star; however what we are talking about is not the "impression" someone gives but rather her potential to correct some of the corruption in the SC.
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #12 on: July 09, 2018, 02:07:48 PM »
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  • Guess so, if "some trads" find Natural Law Relative and not Absolute...
    What a weird comparison. Natural law only enters into the topic when looking for a SC candidate likely to support it. In terms of fallen human beings, you will never find the absolute ideal. Thus, "the ideal is the enemy of the good" is true in regard to a SC candidate.
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #13 on: July 09, 2018, 03:07:09 PM »
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  • Very strong conservative and Constitutionalist like Antonin Scalia, but there's a caveat here. Actually, two.

    1. Catholic, my tuches. She belongs to a Charismatic organization called "People of Praise" which is actively interecuмenical and heretical. Charismatics are Pentecostals who bought chasubles on the internet.

    2. No federal judicial experience or judicial experience at all. Barely six months. Gorsuch had over a decade when appointed.
    I thought I heard she was Novus Ordo Charismatic.  I know... probably not much of a difference.
    Anyone know anything about the Kavanagh possibility?  Is he at least a conservative Novus Ordo Catholic (aka anti Roe v Wade)?
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    Re: Catholic mother of 7 on short list for Supreme Court
    « Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 03:10:33 PM »
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  • 2. No federal judicial experience or judicial experience at all. Barely six months. Gorsuch had over a decade when appointed.
    In my mind that, in and of itself, is not necessarily a bad thing.  While almost all of the justices in the past few decades came from the ranks of the federal courts of appeals, historically, that was not the case.  In the past, sometimes justices came from federal courts, sometimes from state courts, sometimes  regular lawyers were appointed, sometimes academics, and sometimes politicians were even put on the court.

    Personally, a think a court with varying experience in the law may be a good thing rather than everyone just being a promoted federal judge.