I've seen the never-ending back-and-forths you get into, and I'm not interested. You'll have to find someone else to keep you entertained tonight.

The NWO wants Trump to be elected or they would have killed him off by now.

This is a rather stupid fallacy.

from Matt Walsh:

I hope if you've been paying attention these past few days, you're beginning to understand my position, and why I've been so forceful, consistent, and aggressive in my advocacy of it. Many of you already understood, but certainly there are many others who still need to figure it out.

In just the last couple of days, Donald Trump has promised reprisals against his critics when he's elected president, pledging to "open up" libel laws so that he can punish anyone who writes "negative" or "false" stories about him. He said his critics "will have problems" when he's in power. Remember, Trump claims that EVERY critique of him, no matter how true, is "false," so he is clearly vowing to outlaw all criticism of government. If Obama had said anything even remotely in the neighborhood of this when he was running for president, every conservative in the country would've exploded with rage (justifiably). But Trump said it and it hardly sparked much of a backlash at all.

Then Trump proceeded to retweet a quote from Benito Mussolini, the Fascist dictator, and later admitted that he knew the quote was from Mussolini but decided to distribute it anyway. To be clear, for anyone who isn't versed in recent world history, quoting Mussolini is exactly morally analogous to quoting Hitler. It would be like Trump finding a passage in Mein Kampf and sympathetically reading it at one of his rallies.

Finally, this morning Trump refused to repudiate David Duke and the KKK. Later on Twitter he backpedaled, but when asked on TV if he would denounce the white supremacists who've endorsed him, Trump dodged. He was pressed specifically on denouncing the KKK and he refused. The KKK, people. Donald Trump was reluctant to say, "Yes, obviously I disown the KKK and object to everything they say and do." Initially Trump avoided the question by saying he has to investigate the KKK to figure out if he agrees with them or not.

Now, guys, this was all in the span of just three days. And it should be noted that a great number of his fans cheered him on when he promised to censor speech and defended him when he quoted Mussolini and refused to criticize white supremacy. I said last week that the scariest thing about Trump is that he's running as a tyrant, unabashedly so, and his fans want him BECAUSE of it. His fans are explicitly asking for Trump to rule as an emperor. They don't desire freedom or liberty anymore, and they don't give a damn about the Constitution. What they want is a political Strongman who will "restore America's greatness" through brute and oppressive force.

I should remind you, historically, this plan has never worked out well for the common man. Just ask the folks who lived under Trump's mentor in fascist Italy.

We are watching our nation march headlong into tyranny and despotism, and the cattle following along are quite aware of, and enthusiastic about, where the cattle train is going. While Trump will not repudiate white supremacy, his fans have indeed repudiated freedom and independence, and are desperately asking their Great Master to subjugate them for the good of the country.

It's madness and it must be stopped. If you can't see that now, you never will -- until it's too late.

https://www.facebook.com/MattWalshBlog/posts/1133398470026595?fref=nf

With all due respects, most of our presidents have been tyrants. This country has been full of liberal tyrants since day one. Most, if not all, have been Americanist tyrants.

I am of the opinion that it is utterly pointless to vote at all for the presidency. They are all just puppets anyway. Even if they wanted to, they could accomplish no good. It is time to wake up and see that this country is not a democracy. Really it is not. This country does not recognize Christ the King and Christ the King does not recognize it. Satan's minions rule this country.

I think the whole point of an election cycle is to see if the people will tolerate a fast train toward the agendas of TPTB or if they need to slow the train down a bit.

If a candidate isn't on board one train or the other, they'll never be allowed to make any serious headway.

This doesn't necessarily apply to any elected positions below POTUS, though.

Folks I'd like to take this opportunity to show you something. Here is what I said earlier in this thread.

The ONLY bulwark against the NWO is the Church and Catholicism. To suggest anything otherwise is naive. The USA has far to many bible thumping Protestants to be anything effective against the superior minds of the NWO. They simply don't have the capacity of thought to combat such an enemy. They are easily manipulated via Republican candidates. The NWO wants Trump to be elected or they would have killed him off by now. Stop looking to Protestants for salvation because it isn't there. We must embrace the Church as our only salvation and abandon all ethnic?national ties. It's the only choice left now for the faithful. Trump is not a moral human being. He would go on national TV and rate the attractiveness of specific women and their specific lady parts. Is that what you call a moral man?

Here is how Graham replied

I've seen the never-ending back-and-forths you get into, and I'm not interested. You'll have to find someone else to keep you entertained tonight.

Notice how he is using something completely irrelevant to the topic to disparage me and in turn dodge the points I am making (mainly that Trump is a godless fascist and nationalist, like Hitler).



Now just to cement my point here is a short Pro and Con list:

Pros

He promises to protect guns and the constitution

He promises a smaller government

He promises to limit abortion to cases of incest and rape


Cons

He plans on bombing ISIS until they are dead which will only radicalize them even more

He is a godless fascist

He uses God's name to appeal to protestants despite being a heathen

He has been married multiple times and he has a skank for a wife (currently)

He fails to actually address any of the real problems plaguing America like children being corrupted and such.





Notice how everything on the pro side of the argument is something he promises to do, and that everything on the con side of the list is fact. He hasn't done anything to prove himself worthy other than talk but on the contrary he has done much to prove himself unworthy. If anyone wishes to add to the list be my guest but I am positive you will find the same conclusion no matter how much you throw up there. Trump has a resume that makes him unqualified to be the president. He is a sleazy businessman who has done very little (if anything at all) in accordance with Church teachings and therefore should not be receiving a Catholics vote.

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With all due respects, most of our presidents have been tyrants. This country has been full of liberal tyrants since day one. Most, if not all, have been Americanist tyrants.

That's what everyone seems to have a hard time grasping. The fact that this nation  started out as a Protestant nation means it has been an evil nation from the start. But as the years went by the evil grew larger and larger because the nations power grew larger and larger.


Americanism and America is not consistent with Church teachings.

Exactly! I cannot figure out how anyone gets excited for any candidate. I guess they do not comprehend our political system and who really runs it....cause its NOT the American people. We really do not have a voice, if we really ever did.

And you are right. This is a Protestant country since day one. When the foundation is made of straw, how do you keep the house from falling? I guess it has been kept standing by the Secret Society alone. But God will not be mocked. This country is going to come crashing down sooner rather than later.

The all or nothing style of thinking is sophomoric.

The Church, or what appears to be the Church, has been an advocate of the NWO since the sixties. That's why we're here on CI, after all. The supposed pope even said building a wall against illegal immigrants is "not Christian." In the end the Church will provide the solution to this, but for the moment we must look to other defenses.

The NWO is an internationalist agenda that by definition seeks to dissolve national sovereignty. Obviously then the USA, being a powerful nation-state, is structurally a bulwark against the NWO, if in no other sense. It has played a paradoxical role, being in one way an engine of the NWO, at the elite level, and in another a retardant, in the so-called silent majority.

Do you really think the USA is structurally a bulwark against the NWO? Do you really think the USA has not been infiltrated by agents of the NWO? Do you think those running for the presidency have the USA's best interest at heart? If you answered yes to any of these question, then we do not have starting point for a conversation.

I am not trying to be rude (please do not think I am). But I think our worldviews are different. I just cannot see your point, though I could be wrong. I am not infallible.

I believe after reading the history of this country, Papal docuмents against Americanism and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and other Catholic sources about this country, that one cannot but come to the same conclusion as I have. But this is just my opinion. I could be wrong.