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  • Don't forget Marshall..

    I left out an entire list of bad actors. I was talking only about daily wire. But marshall is at the top of the pile of grifting phonies.  

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  • These two even look disturbingly just like one another, to the point that I'd think they're related ...



    Fuentes:  Wow, I just discovered that I had a great grandmother named Fuentes-stein, who was married to a guy name Shapiro.

    Milei:  Wow, I just discovered that I have the same family name as Netayahu.


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    « Reply #32 on: Today at 01:15:41 PM »
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  • I have absolutely no desire to insult you, so do not take what I say as such. 

    You are still stuck in the novus ordo mire. That's why I suggested to you that your spiritual journey is "young," and that, after a general confession, your best course is to continue to hit the books.

    I recommend - among others - The New Montinian Church by Fr. Joaquin Saenz y Arriaga; The Destruction of the Christian Tradition, by Rama Coomaraswamy; and The Problems With the Other Sacraments, by the same Coomaraswamy.

    I also recommend MHT Seminary Courses youtube channel. Bp. Sanborn is a great teacher. I don't hold to the thesis, but so what? His demonstrations are excellent and indispensable for understanding what the novus ordo is, in opposition to what the Church is.

    Once you really understand what vatican ii and the novus ordo are, you will fully comprehend why Candace does not pass the Catholic litmus test.

    And it is precisely this failure to pass the Catholic litmus test that constitutes the prima facie evidence that Candace is a shill - a very attractive shill, and a shill who has been engineered to attract .... well .... white Catholic males. She's a honeypot.

    ISOC has a brand new youtube channel. In early December Gary Giuffre is coming on to discuss why the vatican ii church is Jєωιѕн. I'll post the vid here when it airs.
    This is where you loose me…… she’s exposed the Jews in so many different ways that it’s hard for me to understand how they could let her go on and on exposing Freud and guys like the one that said “ we promote pornography because we hate Christians” I forget his name. I also realize most traditionalist do not like e Michael jones mostly because he doesn’t condemn Vatican 2 outright. I can understand that but I feel like calling Candace controlled opposition is like calling e Michael jones a cia agent. It’s not a lack of understanding doctrine as much as it is I lack concrete proof and I see a lot of reasons to support the opposite. The division going on in the church is mind blowing. I know a lot more than you would probably expect especially when it comes to Jєωιѕн subversives and the link between them and the other Kabbalah religions like masonry. The Kabbalah seems to be at the center of every serious false religion attacking us like in Theosephy or the house of Solomon associated esoteric religions like rosacusionism. I just can’t see where Candace would fit into that. I do believe people can actually change direction. And that’s what gives me my reservations. I would hate to be wrong about a confessing Catholic. This is one of the problems my generation faces. I know the deception is thick. Typically not trusting anyone is my default position but I would hate to be wrong and condemn someone who’s sticking their neck out. 

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    Re: Candace Owens Opinions Please?
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  • Candace is not in the Catholic Church.  She is in Masonry.  Same with Vance.  Anyone can walk in the new order and be taken in, literally.  She is prideful of what she knows.  She overlooks what she is dragging into her home.  she has no solution for the woes of the world.

    I once read federal grants and I knew a lot of garbage in the New Order.  They have been restructured and all parishes are now Civil society organizations that answer to the United Nations.  That is not surprising but please do not refer to the New Order as catholic.  They follow the ways of Satan.

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  • This is where you loose me…… she’s exposed the Jews in so many different ways that it’s hard for me to understand how they could let her go on ...

    So, look into the notion of a "gatekeeper".  While certain levels of operatives will block any criticism of the Jews, once people see through and get past their "gate", they move into the next level.  So, then need to have someone else misleading them, in an attempt to prevent them from getting to the next level.  It's the inverse of the Masonic pyramid.

    "Ah, I see that Alex Jones is constantly shilling to protect the Jews.  I see this Candace Owens here, and she's going after them."  So they get to Owens and the majority will be complacent that "ah, I've found this person who speaks truth" ... but then she subtly misleads them, or at the very least, they stop right there and go no further because they think they've found ultimate truth.

    One misdirection I see at this level, since a TON of people got past the Jew-gate block after Gaza is ... subtly shift blame to Netanyahu, while exonerating Jews in general.  That way, if it gets too hot, they can impeach Bibi and even fake some big revolt of the Jєωιѕн people, and once Bibi takes the fall, they continue on with the operation with other actors.

    So, another role of someone at this gate might be to discredit of "kookify" the truth.  Owens might go off the deepend, and thereby discredit everything she had stood for or pretended to stand for.  Lots of people think that the Macron assassination thing makes her look nuts.


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    Re: Candace Owens Opinions Please?
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  • ISOC has a brand new youtube channel. In early December Gary Giuffre is coming on to discuss why the vatican ii church is Jєωιѕн. I'll post the vid here when it airs.

    Excellent.  I actually think that Stew Peters got him thinking along those lines by trying to get him to emphasize that angle, and had I been Mr. Giuffre, I would have emphasized that aspect to get more time with Stew, since we know that's 90% of his schtick, to go after Jews.

    So, IMO, this is what Our Lady meant by the "errors of Russia".  Jewry set up Communism precisely to go after the Church.  Bella Dodd admitted to having placed over 1100 young men in seminaries, and there were many others doing the same thing.  By the time of the 1958 Conclave, there were many Commie agents among the Cardinals, some of them Jews, but other Goy cooperators (Masons) ... and that's how they pulled off Vatican II.  As I wrote on the other thread, they thought they had their man in Pius IX, but God "converted" him (at least from extreme liberalism) by the graces of the office and the protection of the Holy Ghost over the papacy.  So that's when they devised the Siri plan ... and it worked.

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  • 100% deliberate controlled opposition.

    1) Shilled for Trump during the entire 2024 campaign cycle.

    2) THEN suddenly realized that Trump was in favor of the genocide in Gaza (despite his having made that entirely clear)

    3) after Trump started filling his administration with Jews and their puppets, Owens issues an absurdly histrionic public "warning" that Trump's administration was being "infiltrated" ... LOL ... as if Trump was not doing it on purposes

    4) during 2024, instead of investigating something REAL, like Trump's actual ties to Jews, to Epstein, etc. -- she creates a distraction and wastes everyone's time by investigating the true race of Kamala's grandmother

    5) having come from Shapiro's organization, from which she had been allegedly bounced for suddenly becoming an "αnтι-ѕємιтє", she was clearly unleashed from there to go out as controlled op

    6) comes out of nowhere to win some made-up "αnтι-ѕємιтє of the Year" award to give her street cred ... when there were far more worthy candidates with years of track record in the area

    7) THEN, when again she should have been investigating Trump administration's ties to Epstein, to the Jews, etc. ... she puts all her energy into investigation yet another monumental question, the gender of Macron's concubine, as if 1) this affects anyone in the US, 2) 99% of France didn't already know all about it and it had not been thoroughly investigated already by the French (she came up with nothing new), 3) 80% of the French public wouldn't actually approve of the entire thing.  Seriously?  This all you got, Candace?  Let's say it's proven he's a man.  What happens?  Absolutely nothing.  She could be investigating cнιℓd тrαffιcking rings among government high officials, Trump's relationship with Epstein, Trump being an Israeli asset, etc. ... but she wastes time and creates distractions with total garbage

    8) with her latest claim that Macron's government is trying to αssαssιnαtҽ her, she's completing her mission of making anyone who doesn't buy the mainstream narrative about Kirk to be a nutjob

    9) she's suddenly become the "number one podcast in the world" (in terms of views per episode or something).  THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN UNLESS YOU ARE AN ASSET.  Other people who are much closer to the truth are shadow banned, hidden by search algorithms, etc.  If she were an actual threat to the establishment, nobody would have ever heard of her.  Same goes with ALL the other big names.  Those who actually are over the target (like Dustin Nemos) ... they're relegated to near-total-obscurity by their algorithms

    There's almost zero doubt that she's a controlled asset.  Now, what her motivations are, whether she's just been bought off, is blackmailed, is threatened, or whether she's just a willing conspirator totally on board with the cause ... we can't know that.  We can know that she's a controlled asset.  There's no other explanation for her having covered up for Trump the entire 2024 campaign by creating stupid distractions, and then emerging all surprised that Trump supports the genocide, absurdly winning some "αnтι-ѕємιтє" of the year award, undoubtedly made up out of thin air just for her to win, likely by Shapiro and company, and then creating the additional distraction right during the peak of the Epstein uproar by focusing on Macron's male concubine, never actually doing thorough investigations of cнιℓd тrαffιcking, Trump's ties to Epstein, Trump's being an Israel asset, etc.  You can often tell who someone is by those things they do NOT investigate.  But, you can't accuse Owens of being an Israel shill cause muh "αnтι-ѕємιтє of the Year Award", and of course she was "kicked out" by Shapiro (100% fabricated to create her back-story), and she will occasionally make some comment about Gaza and whatnot (while never doing indepth investigations of the matter ... but instead worrying about Macron's concubine).  But, as with all of them, they will say enough so they can shake off the accusation of being an Israeli shill.

    Same thing with Kirk.  Kirk, Alex Jones, and a couple of the others, started all making the exact same criticisms of Israel all at the same time.  Why?  Simple.  Israel was losing the PR battle so badly on account of Gaza that the shills absolutely lost all credibility and had become worthless as shills.  So they were all greenlighted to start criticizing Israel at the same time.  Alex Jones, right at the same time that Kirk was making his comments, was saying the exact same stuff, and even went so far as to blame Israel for 9/11.  But you will notice that all of them very subtly laid the blame on Netanyahu.  They'll throw Netanyahu under the bus to take the blame so as to exonerate Israel and Jews in general from guilty.  That's why they also allowed the recent protests in Israel, etc.  They have no problem throwing that guy under the bus just like the proverbial scapegoat that gets its name from the ceremony by the same people.  They'll lay all the sins of Israel and Jews on Bibi, and throw him off the cliff and/or under the bus, thereby wiping their hands of it.  That's always been their plan and their tactic.  But, they had to rehabilitate the absurdly-blatant pro-Israeli shills, since having lost all credibility, they were like salt that had lost its savor and had become useless.

    That's also, BTW, why the alt right are pushing the "Kirk was killed by Israel narrative".  While the mainstream narrative is that some Leftist transgender type did it, which most will buy, (and explains the previous operations by transgenders) ... the alt right was allowed to blame Israel, all as part of the agenda to say, "no, these Israel shill operations, they're not really Israeli shill operations".  Charlie Kirk is not dead, and is likely playing checkers with Epstein as we speak in "Valhalla" (some tropical island) ... surrounded by young girls.  But the Israel PR operations was losing so badly (admitted by the ADL even) that they had to do something to re-establish its credibility.

    Candace Owens is among those that are part of this agenda.

    But, now she's taking it a step further by "kookifying" the "Israel killed Kirk" theory that she helped promote with the latest "Macron's trying to αssαssιnαtҽ me" absurdity.  Most people are responding that she has some mental problems.

    These guys are very good at the psychologcal manipulation.  They're evil, but not stupid.

    Do we think the Jews didn't realize that the Gaza operation would result in this backlash and blowback?  They absolutely did, so they set up the responses well ahead of time, playing actual 5D chess with the diabolical chessmaster in charge, the devil himself ... who's likely at the 10D level.  This was all pre-planned and wargamed out.

    "OK, look, we can't genocide the people in Gaza without massive blowback.  Here's how we'll plan out the reaction to soften the blow and turn it around."

    Next step that they're prepping is a fαℓѕє fℓαg in the US to be blamed on Muslims.  That's why they put Mamdami in.
    Did you really come up with this all by yourself? :jester:

    Why do all of these people live in your head rent-free?:facepalm:

    Shouldn't you distance yourself from the nonsense of the secular outside world and focus more time and attention on being a better Tridentine Catholic?  

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    Re: Candace Owens Opinions Please?
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  • Candace is not in the Catholic Church.  She is in Masonry.  Same with Vance.  Anyone can walk in the new order and be taken in, literally.  She is prideful of what she knows.  She overlooks what she is dragging into her home.  she has no solution for the woes of the world.

    I once read federal grants and I knew a lot of garbage in the New Order.  They have been restructured and all parishes are now Civil society organizations that answer to the United Nations.  That is not surprising but please do not refer to the New Order as catholic.  They follow the ways of Satan.
    Vance is in the Opus Dei it makes him a lot easier to identify. Again how much concrete evidence do you have about Candace being a mason? In this day and age hate is easy. Love is nearly gone.


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  • Did you really come up with this all by yourself? :jester:

    Why do all of these people live in your head rent-free?:facepalm:

    Shouldn't you distance yourself from the nonsense of the secular outside world and focus more time and attention on being a better Tridentine Catholic? 

    So, yes, all of that comes simply from paying attention an spending a few minutes each day looking at headlines.  I think that I've actually watched about a total of 5-10 minutes of Owens speaking, and the rest comes from simple pattern recognition, and just becausey you're too intellectually challenged to piece it together, it doesn't mean the rest of us cannot.  If you simply read a few minutes of the headlines, over years, it's rather simple for some of us (who have the right paradigm) to "connect the dots".

    Of all these players, I've never watched Charlie Kirk (other than the videos of his staged assassination), nor Shapiro, maybe 10 minutes total of Owens, half of that when Fuentes was showing clips, maybe 15-20 minutes total of Fuentes ... and then I paid attention to what was going on with the 2024 election, Trump, his appointments, and then who came out of the woodwork when and saying what.

    Maybe you live in some hermitage where you have no clue about what's happening in the United States politically, but you may also realize that we should be paying attention to politics, at some level, since it's just a matter of time before they come after the Traditional Catholics.

    Of course, we all know what you mean by "Tridentine Catholic", where you hold that half of the popes since then were illegitimate Anti-Popes, so you may wish to pay attention to becoming Catholic again, since you've gone off the deep end into abject heresy.  Not sure why the heretically depraved such as yourself have not been banned long ago.

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  • Excellent.  I actually think that Stew Peters got him thinking along those lines by trying to get him to emphasize that angle, and had I been Mr. Giuffre, I would have emphasized that aspect to get more time with Stew, since we know that's 90% of his schtick, to go after Jews.

    So, IMO, this is what Our Lady meant by the "errors of Russia".  Jewry set up Communism precisely to go after the Church.  Bella Dodd admitted to having placed over 1100 young men in seminaries, and there were many others doing the same thing.  By the time of the 1958 Conclave, there were many Commie agents among the Cardinals, some of them Jews, but other Goy cooperators (Masons) ... and that's how they pulled off Vatican II.  As I wrote on the other thread, they thought they had their man in Pius IX, but God "converted" him (at least from extreme liberalism) by the graces of the office and the protection of the Holy Ghost over the papacy.  So that's when they devised the Siri plan ... and it worked.
    I understand Hegelian dialects but again it’s the concrete evidence I lack and it’s evidence to the contrary that I see. I can listen to a liar speak truth and then on some major issue they will be forced to show their hand. I have not seen that yet with Candace and I listen to her directly not people who talk about her. I lack any concrete evidence so far.

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  • ...................

    I recommend - among others - The New Montinian Church by Fr. Joaquin Saenz y Arriaga; The Destruction of the Christian Tradition, by Rama Coomaraswamy; and The Problems With the Other Sacraments, by the same Coomaraswamy.

    I also recommend MHT Seminary Courses youtube channel. Bp. Sanborn is a great teacher. I don't hold to the thesis, but so what? His demonstrations are excellent and indispensable for understanding what the novus ordo is, in opposition to what the Church is.

    Once you really understand what vatican ii and the novus ordo are, you will fully comprehend why Candace does not pass the Catholic litmus test.



    Roma Coomaraswarmy came from a Jєωιѕн occult back-ground. Out of nowhere he attached himself to the SSPX and began espousing sede-vacantism. Bp. Sanborn is one of his disciples. Once you understand that basic concept, you'll fully comprehend just who is being played.


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  • Excellent.  I actually think that Stew Peters got him thinking along those lines by trying to get him to emphasize that angle, and had I been Mr. Giuffre, I would have emphasized that aspect to get more time with Stew, since we know that's 90% of his schtick, to go after Jews.

    So, IMO, this is what Our Lady meant by the "errors of Russia".  Jewry set up Communism precisely to go after the Church.  Bella Dodd admitted to having placed over 1100 young men in seminaries, and there were many others doing the same thing.  By the time of the 1958 Conclave, there were many Commie agents among the Cardinals, some of them Jews, but other Goy cooperators (Masons) ... and that's how they pulled off Vatican II.  As I wrote on the other thread, they thought they had their man in Pius IX, but God "converted" him (at least from extreme liberalism) by the graces of the office and the protection of the Holy Ghost over the papacy.  So that's when they devised the Siri plan ... and it worked.

    Bp. Sanborn was interviewed by Stephen Kokx the other day. It was a tidy little Q&A-style primer for sedevacantism. Kokx pitched all of the objections, and Bp. Sanborn swung the bat. The bishop said something that was a home run for me. I won't go into the context or the precise substance of his reply. Rather I will repeat merely the subject and predicate: "The traditional movement was derailed."

    Not only would I agree with this, but the details and the ways in which it has been derailed would fill volumes.

    One of the primary derailments is the abject failure of the traditionalist clergy/media to precisely define the novus ordo as a Jєωιѕн infiltration and hard military takeover of the worldwide Offices of the Church, starting with the Papacy. I suspect that these men kept quiet for fear of persecution and loss of their 501c3 status.

    vatican ii is an act of war. No one says this. No one identifies the nature of the thing. No one identifies the combatants. Rather a perverse propaganda storm has been thrown up in its wake, to the effect either that vatican ii was the peaceful, harmonic, and organic act of the Roman Church, or that it is a mere problem "in the Church."

    The warring jews have insisted - both in their conciliar circus and in so-called tradition - that the novus ordo and the Church be professed as being identical. What percentage of traditional Catholics are sedes? 10%? 12%? The vast majority of self-nominated traditionalists - starting with the SSPX - profess this identification, which is utter falsity, utter absurdity.

    Worse still, the sedevacantists, who refuse to equate the novus ordo and the Church, nevertheless refuse to precisely qualify the novus ordo. Sedevacantist clergy and media seem to want to avoid naming the jews as operating and controlling the novus ordo, just as they operate and control all infiltrations and revolutions on earth. I refuse to use the term modernists, not because modernists do not exist; but because the term is mostly employed now as a euphemism so that one does not have to make the most correct and most precise nomination. 

    The derailment of the traditional counterstrike has always been due to false definitions, false identifications, false explanations, and false predications being shoved down Catholics' throats.

    Louis Verrecchio has begun to explicitly identity the novus ordo with the jews. I cannot think of another who has made similar public statements. Now Giuffre is stepping up. God bless him. This truth needs to "go viral." It is the sine qua non of the true defense of the Catholic Faith. 

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  • I understand Hegelian dialects but again it’s the concrete evidence I lack and it’s evidence to the contrary that I see. I can listen to a liar speak truth and then on some major issue they will be forced to show their hand. I have not seen that yet with Candace and I listen to her directly not people who talk about her. I lack any concrete evidence so far.

    Things that make you go hmmmm, Volume 39845765698468367:

    If Candace is a hound on the heels of ginormous hoaxes, lies, cօռspιʀαcιҽs, and deceptions, why did she join the novus ordo? Why doesn't she expose vatican ii? montini, roncalli, jpii, bergoglio, tucho? It is reported she goes to a Latin Mass. If she is so intelligent and penetrating, and if she got a clue not to go to the filthy novus ordo sacrilege, did she not receive the memo on vatican ii? Has she no interest in this horror come upon the whole earth? Is this not the biggest story since the "moon landing?"

    What does she have in common with the daily wire cuck stable? Why, she's promoting the conciliar antichurch. Red flag, Michael. 

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  • Worse still, the sedevacantists, who refuse to equate the novus ordo and the Church, nevertheless refuse to precisely qualify the novus ordo. Sedevacantist clergy and media seem to want to avoid naming the jews as operating and controlling the novus ordo, just as they operate and control all infiltrations and revolutions on earth. I refuse to use the term modernists, not because modernists do not exist; but because the term is mostly employed now as a euphemism so that one does not have to make the most correct and most precise nomination. 


    It puts sedes, (or anyone naming Jews) on the target bullseye. I agree though, modernism comes from elightenment Kabbahlists, frankists jews.

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  • Of course, we all know what you mean by "Tridentine Catholic", where you hold that half of the popes since then were illegitimate Anti-Popes
    I do not consider any popes after The Council of Trent to be Anti-Popes. The first Anti-Pope after The Council of Trent was John XXIII.

    However, I do believe that Vatican I was an un-necessary and embarrassing failure which paved the way for Vatican II. Had any of the popes between 1870 and 1958 officially "concluded" Vatican I, then I would see things differently. Sadly, however, they did not and that is why Trent was the last "officially concluded and necessary Council."