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Buchanan: Hispanic influx from immigration bill...
« on: June 24, 2013, 08:27:36 AM »
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  • ...could break US into ‘two countries’

    Jeff PoorMedia Reporter



    On Andrea Tantaros radio show last week, conservative columnist and author Pat Buchanan warned of an unintended consequence of the immigration reform bill, a bill which doesn’t place a high priority on assimilation.

    According to Tantaros, her previous guest, former New York Lt. Gov. Betsy McCaughey, said that the immigration legislation funnels money to so-called community organizing groups like La Raza with the idea of teaching immigrants “American history, the Constitution and civic participation.” That leaves open the possibility of activist groups teaching with a partisan slant — and impedes assimilation.

    Buchanan, author of “Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?”explained that when different cultures are encouraged to assimilate, nations are susceptible to splitting apart, pointing to recent history as proof.


    With regard to the history and the teaching of it — this is one of the problems I’ve talked about when you have a single-culture single nation, you have basically a single culture,” Buchanan said. “If you indoctrinate or teach kids different views about what their country and how it began, what you get is a growing disintegration of the country, a fragmentation into different parts. And we see this happening all over the world. In the last few decades where ethnic groups and linguistic minorities and ethnic minorities, cultural minorities, given the pressures of ethno-nationalism, [they] are breaking up countries all over the world. It’s happening all over the Middle East. It happened in the Balkans where Yugoslavia broke up into seven countries. The Soviet Union broke up into 15 countries.”

    And when immigrants don’t assimilate, as could be the case with the inflow Hispanic immigrants from the impending legislation, nations break up — a possibility he laid out with the United States.

    You put 100 million Hispanic folks in the United States and, say, 70 million on the southwest border. That becomes as much as part of Mexico as it is the United States,” Buchanan continued. “If they have a different language, different culture, a different faith — basically you get two peoples. And two peoples eventually become two countries. This is what I see as the future of America — the Balkanization and the disintegration of a country which become one nation back around 1960 when all the immigrants who came from Eastern and Southern Europe, 1890-1920, had been assimilated and American-ized. We all had gone through the Depression together, heard radio together, went through World War II together and American television — that brought us all together. And now we’re coming apart.”


    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/23/buchanan-hispanic-influx-from-immigration-bill-could-break-us-into-two-countries/#ixzz2X8jDf5gN

    Offline alaric

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    Buchanan: Hispanic influx from immigration bill...
    « Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 08:33:32 AM »
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  • Make that three countries when European whites break off and form a third.

    The other races and ethnicites have no intention of allowing Euro whites the freedom of self-asscociation or protection of their right to exist.

    Jews have brainwashed them otherwise and convinced many whites to self-loathing with yearning for self-extinction as rapidly as possible.

    I'm sure this is what God wants....extermination of an entire race of people at the behest of a few perfidous Jews.


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    « Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 07:18:46 PM »
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    Make that three countries when European whites break off and form a third.


    Let's hope so.

    I don't see any future with the current arrangement.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 09:49:22 PM »
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  • I think that would just be playing into the hands of the Elite. They have probably already infiltrated all the major conservative and white nationalist groups with their agents (e.g. the case of Timothy McVeigh), so that is not a real option. We can't afford to go along with any more manufactured "solutions".


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    « Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 09:58:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: Arbogastes
    I think that would just be playing into the hands of the Elite. They have probably already infiltrated all the major conservative and white nationalist groups with their agents (e.g. the case of Timothy McVeigh), so that is not a real option. We can't afford to go along with any more manufactured "solutions".


    These groups have been infiltrated time and time again.

    But I'm thinking that in the future pro-white groups will be mainstream due to multiculturalism exhausting itself. It will become too popular to be successfully hijacked.

    Won't be astonished if it doesn't happen in my lifetime though.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 10:36:01 PM »
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  • Maybe. If that happens though, just be careful about which group you decide to put your trust in (it would really be better not to trust in any "groups" at all aside from one's immediate friends and family).

    Regardless, I think the best option would be to avoid the populated, urban areas (especially in the East and Southwest) as much as possible and find a safe spot either in the wilderness or in a rural area where you can hunker down at.



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    « Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 10:42:26 PM »
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  • I'm not a regionalist hater, but I've always considered secession completely valid. I prefer secession and state's rights at this point.

    The Federal Reserve is a scam and so is the NWO. The "United States" is not really a nation any more anyway, imo. It's a field equation of liberalism and scientific materialism to serve the interests of the NWO. It's practically diabolical in some ways.

    Vatican II can barely keep up.

    All I have to do is look at Barack Obama and Elena Kagan, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Ben Bernanke and Mark Cuban, etc., and I've had enough.

    The Catholic and various other Christian door mats will never overturn Roe vs Wade or porn as free speech, for example, and all the other liberal spookology in a million years. It's only going to get worse.

    Aren't military chaplains today removed if they will not perform gay marriages? Somebody told me this. It sounds like it's true, unless somehow they were mistaken. They weren't fooling me.

    Jeb Bush and the Republicans? Are you kidding?

    Aristotle and Konrad von Jungingen are off the grid and so am I.

    One of my old saws is Abe Lincoln was never baptized, and he was not a Christian, and he did not "save the union".

    Do you need a union or world government to tell you how to live and how to get across the street? I don't need the UN, and I don't need the US gubbament. In fact, the more I experience of them, the more there are problems after problems.

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    « Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 10:47:46 PM »
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  • Off topic but I had to look him up:

    "Konrad died in 1407 at Marienburg Castle and was buried there. He died a most unusual martyr's death. His doctor prescribed Sexual Intercourse as a cure for his Gallstones, from which von Jungingen was suffering at the time. The chaste knight refused to comply, and suffered the consequences"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_von_Jungingen


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    « Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 10:49:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: Donachie

    The Catholic and various other Christian door mats will never overturn Roe vs Wade or porn as free speech, for example, and all the other liberal spookology in a million years. It's only going to get worse.


    "Doormats" is a perfect description.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 25, 2013, 12:58:02 AM »
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    I'm not a regionalist hater, but I've always considered secession completely valid. I prefer secession and state's rights at this point.

    The Federal Reserve is a scam and so is the NWO. The "United States" is not really a nation any more anyway, imo.


    The “United States” ("US, Inc." is probably a more appropriate name) at this point anyway is little more than a group of mercenaries and “wanna-be dupes” based in Washington who work exclusively on behalf of the Elite. There is a puppet government in Washington and a lot of lower-levels “useful idiots”, but they are still the real ones in control.

    With that said, I think that secession and state’s rights is another false solution (the Feds could care less about state’s rights, believe me—just look at how the Feds reacted when Texas tried to stop the TSA from operating in their state). The Elite have already long ago corrupted the central government, and I believe that there current plan is to, among other things, encourage controlled separatist movements as a means to create further tension and possibly spark a civil war.  That way, they can weaken each of the microstates formed from these movements and gradually consolidate them one by one until they are successfully integrated into the Global State. In case you don’t believe this is possible, just look at history: all the major world powers from the Roman Empire to the British Empire have successfully used this “divide and conquer” strategy. Do you seriously think that the Elite would ever allow a successful region-wide, independent secession movement to form on their watch? Think again.

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    One of my old saws is Abe Lincoln was never baptized, and he was not a Christian, and he did not "save the union".


    While the Union certainly had its malignant characters and supporters (among whom were ’48er socialists and Karl Marx), the South didn’t really seem to be much better off as they had many prominent freemasons and luminaries on their side (among whom was Albert Pike, a high-ranking freemason and, eventually, the leader of freemasonry in the South, and the Knights of the Golden Circle). Ultimately, I think the Civil War was sparked by the British Empire (specifically, the City of London and the political-financial clique who controlled the British Empire) through their agents in the South as a way to cripple the United States as a potential rival and eventually incorporate them into a global “British Empire” (as Cecil Rhodes and his ilk envisioned it). They did not succeed then, but it seemed to have come very close to succeeding.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 25, 2013, 11:53:06 PM »
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  • It was always the plan of the Court Jews to effect a Balkanization of the U.S.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    The “United States” ("US, Inc." is probably a more appropriate name) at this point anyway is little more than a group of mercenaries and “wanna-be dupes” based in Washington who work exclusively on behalf of the Elite. There is a puppet government in Washington and a lot of lower-levels “useful idiots”, but they are still the real ones in control.

    With that said, I think that secession and state’s rights is another false solution (the Feds could care less about state’s rights, believe me—just look at how the Feds reacted when Texas tried to stop the TSA from operating in their state). The Elite have already long ago corrupted the central government, and I believe that there current plan is to, among other things, encourage controlled separatist movements as a means to create further tension and possibly spark a civil war.  That way, they can weaken each of the microstates formed from these movements and gradually consolidate them one by one until they are successfully integrated into the Global State. In case you don’t believe this is possible, just look at history: all the major world powers from the Roman Empire to the British Empire have successfully used this “divide and conquer” strategy. Do you seriously think that the Elite would ever allow a successful region-wide, independent secession movement to form on their watch? Think again.

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    One of my old saws is Abe Lincoln was never baptized, and he was not a Christian, and he did not "save the union".


    While the Union certainly had its malignant characters and supporters (among whom were ’48er socialists and Karl Marx), the South didn’t really seem to be much better off as they had many prominent freemasons and luminaries on their side (among whom was Albert Pike, a high-ranking freemason and, eventually, the leader of freemasonry in the South, and the Knights of the Golden Circle). Ultimately, I think the Civil War was sparked by the British Empire (specifically, the City of London and the political-financial clique who controlled the British Empire) through their agents in the South as a way to cripple the United States as a potential rival and eventually incorporate them into a global “British Empire” (as Cecil Rhodes and his ilk envisioned it). They did not succeed then, but it seemed to have come very close to succeeding.


    Albert Pike was a strange bird --- a Luciferian. Bad News Pike. He was a total washout as a Confederate officer. He never won a battle and had no military aptitude. He was originally from Massachusetts. If he had stayed up there, maybe he could have served in the Union Army and been a slob and a Luciferian washout for them?

    The War Between the States was only a war, and politics are only politics. However, the faithful and the Church also have to make their way through this world in practical ways.

    As a legal brief, I think the South had and still has the winning case. That is significant to my understanding of the Constitution and the US government and its politics. For example, look at the Supreme Tort. They are far beyond their parameters, and who needs or wants more garbage from them?

    The "elite" are going to get only natural results and worse for what they do anyway. I'm looking at it from a deeper perspective than the "elites". The Holy Spirit may work in "funny ways", and many local ways, that can counter the elite.

    People do move around a lot nowadays looking for work and so forth, and modern life can be chaotic, so some of the South has moved North, and some of the North has moved South --- the West moves East and the East moves West. People may survive and try to be happy in many places, but the legal issues that can counter the NWO seem Confederate and Catholic to me. Not just "Confederate" from the American South --- but whatever others as well, Irish against Cromwell, Robert the Bruce against Longshanks, Hapsburg and Old Europe against Freemason and heretic, etc.

    If this is making any sense, it is because it is about typology. We have seen the typology of the NWO before. It is like that of the liar and the tyrant --- the megalomaniac --- against natural order and peace.

    If St. Thomas More was an authority of international and constitutional law, and he was here to make a case for State's Rights, that's what I'm talking about --- I'm not just talking Southern Rednecks and the Charlie Daniels Band.

    The Satanic NWO likes to pretend that it can play all ends against the middle equally well, but this is not true, because they can't play fair anyway. The "Confederate" and Catholic ends of the wheel are more naturally against them than the others.

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    « Reply #12 on: June 26, 2013, 09:34:12 PM »
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  • Even though I myself am not a Spaniard, I don't like it when people confuse Amerindians, mestizos and others from South America with Hispanic people. They are about as Hispanic as Turks are German.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 27, 2013, 08:50:58 AM »
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  • Quote from: Kreuzritter1945
    Even though I myself am not a Spaniard, I don't like it when people confuse Amerindians, mestizos and others from South America with Hispanic people. They are about as Hispanic as Turks are German.


    Most mestizos are of Spanish descent.

    Anyway, Latin American is a much more sensible term than hispanic.  



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    Off topic but I had to look him up:

    "Konrad died in 1407 at Marienburg Castle and was buried there.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_von_Jungingen


    If I had read that before, I forgot about it. It sounds like a Wikipedia urban legend. I guess it makes an interesting story to more people.

    The Teutonic Knights were good for Europe and the Church, imo. They reached their greatest level under Konrad and declined under his younger brother Ulrich who succeeded him.

    "Unlike his brother, Ulrich's diplomatic capability was limited." Ulrich was foolhardy and a little bit arrogant the way he went into Grunwald. The Order declined after that and then one day came along Martin Luther.

     

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