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Offline hollingsworth

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« Reply #135 on: March 13, 2016, 05:46:58 PM »
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    But it's CathInfo that's important because of the membership and gathering of minds here, not me specifically. Just look at the threads about Trump.


    I wouldn't take it all seriously, Matt.  You are important as the coordinator of a discussion forum which has done a pretty good job over all, for some period of time.  I've gone after you myself in the past.  just keep hanging in there.  Not everybody has your particular set of gifts.  You need a thick skin.  Blessings.

    Offline Charlotte NC Bill

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    « Reply #136 on: March 13, 2016, 08:12:30 PM »
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  • Give me a benevolent dictator over a 51% majority, corrupt, unresponsive oligarchy that is hostile to the people's ( and the nation's ) long-term best interests any day of the week.


    Offline Mark 79

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    « Reply #137 on: March 14, 2016, 12:31:41 AM »
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  • Quote from: Centroamerica


    At this point,

    people who are adamantly opposed to a Trump presidency:

    1. George Soros

    2. Black Lives Matter

    3. Bill Ayers and the U.S. Communist Party

    4. Liberals and militant leftists

    5. The Mainstream Media

    6. The moderators of Cath Info, Matthew and his wife



    Notable new supporters this week:

    Dr. Ben Carson



    *Note: this is an incomplete list.


    Ben Carson was in the vanguard of those working to prevent Catholics and others to exercise their consciences by opting out of immunizations, including immunizations based on the products of aborted babies.

    How is such a man a moral choice for Catholics?

    Offline Mark 79

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    « Reply #138 on: March 14, 2016, 12:39:20 AM »
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  • This site's Chicken Hawk wants you to support a man who supports racial supremacism, terrorism and genocide.

    As I said before, Patricius, if you are so hot to kill for the Zionist agenda, sign up.  Nobody is stopping you.

    Offline MaterDominici

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    « Reply #139 on: March 14, 2016, 12:40:11 AM »
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    Dear CWA: Instead of old "off the cuff" sayings, why don't you take the time to get acquainted with the official positions Mr. Trump is presenting in his official website? And I would recommend everybody to go as well and read. There are a few topics. Just click on each to get his detailed policies for each topic: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions I am sick and tired of people who oppose him without real knowledge of his positions. If you let the drive-by medias brainwash you, there is no point in continuing the discussion.


    Fair enough. Although I've been there before, let's talk about these topics. The six issues covered are as follows:

    1. Healthcare Reform
    2. US - China Trade Reform
    3. Veterans Admin Reform
    4. Tax Reform
    5. Second Amendment Rigths
    6. Immigration Reform

    It would be a bit tough to tackle them all at once. Is there one in particular you'd like to see first? What Trump's plans are vs. what his opponents plan to do. Pick one and we can start a new topic about it.


    Did you decide which of Trump's official positions you want to discuss first?


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    « Reply #140 on: March 14, 2016, 12:53:38 AM »
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    At this point,

    people who are adamantly opposed to a Trump presidency:

    1. George Soros

    2. Black Lives Matter

    3. Bill Ayers and the U.S. Communist Party

    4. Liberals and militant leftists

    5. The Mainstream Media

    6. The moderators of Cath Info, Matthew and his wife



    Notable new supporters this week:

    Dr. Ben Carson



    *Note: this is an incomplete list.


    Ben Carson was in the vanguard of those working to prevent Catholics and others to exercise their consciences by opting out of immunizations, including immunizations based on the products of aborted babies.

    How is such a man a moral choice for Catholics?


    What about his endorsement by Phyllis Schlaffly in St. Louis MO last Friday?
    By the way, you should have seen this rally! I don't know how Trump managed to keep his cool after being interrupted every 5-10 minutes by protestors. It was clear those had been hired and had a strategy. Man, this shows how much the opposition is afraid of Trump!


    Ben Carson is not a moral choice for Catholics because he himself works to prevent Catholics from exercising their consciences.

    Donald Trump is not a moral choice for Catholics because he is a money-worshipping, blood-lusting Zionist whose money, far from being built on moral industriousness, has been built upon his willingness to work with organized crime.

    Phyllis Schlafly is not a US Presidential candidate, so why mention her?


    Offline MaterDominici

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    « Reply #141 on: March 14, 2016, 01:04:31 AM »
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    I think you know what I am saying and ignore it. I am saying that if the media and all these hard core leftists are against a candidate, there is a reason for it. You know it, and everyone knows it.


    Can you show me where the liberal media is in favor of any one of the Rep candidates? I don't think Donald is alone in getting attacked by leftists, but he's getting the biggest beating because he has been and continues to be the most likely to win the Rep nomination.

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    Further, it is practically proven beyond a reasonable doubt that your candidate is a member of a secret society, owned by Golman and Sachs. Notice how he lied about CNN so blatantly, and the media doesn't go after him.


    What is the CNN lie you are referring to?

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    Your arguments are getting weaker by the minute. There is a huge reason why you  and everyone should vote for Trump. If a liberal democrat gets in and appoints two liberal judges, it will change the face of America for decades. A bad Trump presidency (which seems unlikely since he couldn't be any worse than Obama) would only last 4 years. There is a lot to lose and everyone on that list with you knows it.


    A bad Cruz presidency will only last 4 years, too. Perhaps you can explain to me why Trump consistently does so poorly when polled against Hillary, but the other Rep candidates fare reasonably well.

    In the most recent poll, he's down by 13 whereas Rubio ties and Cruz is only down by 2. If my number 1 concern is beating Hillary, the numbers don't suggest that Trump is the way to do it. How do you explain that?

    Offline Mark 79

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    « Reply #142 on: March 14, 2016, 01:08:03 AM »
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  • Donald Trump is not a moral choice for Catholics because he is a money-worshipping, blood-lusting Zionist whose money, far from being built on moral industriousness, has been built upon his willingness to work with organized crime.


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    « Reply #143 on: March 14, 2016, 01:55:33 AM »
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    Dear MaterDominici. We both have access to the website and can read for ourselves and make our own opinions. This thread, which I started in order to get prayers for +W has gone way off track, and if we start a discussion on every single issue, we are going to have to spend our days in front of the screen. I just don't have that kind of time. I normally don't write on forums and I just look at what is new on cathInfo a couple of times a day.

    Now, this has started to be about the presidential race, and I got hooked. I even went so far as exploring the control panel and figuring out how to get a nice picture as avatar. I chose that one, thinking of one of your replies against carpet-bombing. Hope you have a sense of humour and like it! But I think I pretty much have said all I had to say about Trump. If people don't agree, it's fine. They can continue to suck their thumbs, hoping a Garcia Moreno 2.0 will fall down from the sky and save the country.


    Yes, I've been there and read them and I wasn't sure what you found so unique about them. I was wondering if you thought Trumps immigration plan (or healthcare plan or tax plan or economic plan) was superior to Rubio's or Cruz's or even Kasich's and, most importantly, why?

    Otherwise, I always understand the desire to get "unhooked" and I bid you well until we chat again.  :cowboy:
    I always appreciate your service as Fr. Girouard's media man!

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    « Reply #144 on: March 14, 2016, 01:47:51 PM »
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  • I think that people need to step back and take note of all the frenzy surrounding this election.  This is a beginning of sorrows I believe.  And, at least trump is echoing that message.  He is screaming from the rooftops, while all of the other candidates think we are fine and dandy.  And, this is not to say that I am going to vote for him.  But, we are in for tough times.  And, I really think the best way to look at it may be like this.  Trump is the golden handcuff(quite literally).  Handcuffs are coming.  And, as with eminent domain, Trump says, if the person is smart, they can get 2-3 times their value by selling.  But, the question is, are we smart.

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    « Reply #145 on: March 15, 2016, 10:26:38 AM »
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    1 to 5 are 'important' because of the influence they have, to some extent, in society. The moderators of Cathinfo are just not important at all. Just a fact, no offense intended.


    Columbiano, you need to stop listening to the anti-CathInfo crowd at ABL, the Recusant, and Fr. Pfeiffer/Pablo's other attack troops.



    Ha, and you have to get your facts straight!

    Because nothing in my posts indicate that I do (in fact, regarding Pablo, quite the contrary), I see only two possibilities:

    1-If I say something you don't like, I surely MUST be listening to the other 'group'. I don't need to expand on how ridiculous it would be......should this be the case.

    or,

    2-Someone in common (Mr. M) told you a few things about me many months ago and therefore  you think you can safely throw the "you need to stop listening to the bla, bla, bla..." and be on the side of truth.

    Well, you constantly champion yourself as the defender of truth but here, you do not know what you are talking about. It is this attitude you exhibit, together with many other examples that come to mind, from you and others, that turn me off completely from your 'group'. By 'group' I mean the most visible, outspoken defenders of each side of the Resistance. I'm equally repelled by both.


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    « Reply #146 on: March 15, 2016, 11:06:37 AM »
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    Donald Trump is not a moral choice for Catholics because he is a money-worshipping, blood-lusting Zionist whose money, far from being built on moral industriousness, has been built upon his willingness to work with organized crime.


    Would those be the Catholics who overwhelmingly put Obama in the White House twice?

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    « Reply #147 on: March 15, 2016, 11:09:20 AM »
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    Donald Trump is not a moral choice for Catholics because he is a money-worshipping, blood-lusting Zionist whose money, far from being built on moral industriousness, has been built upon his willingness to work with organized crime.


    Would those be the Catholics who overwhelmingly put Obama in the White House twice?


    Only if you consider Novus Ordinarians to be Catholic.

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    « Reply #148 on: March 15, 2016, 11:52:58 AM »
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    Donald Trump is not a moral choice for Catholics because he is a money-worshipping, blood-lusting Zionist whose money, far from being built on moral industriousness, has been built upon his willingness to work with organized crime.


    Would those be the Catholics who overwhelmingly put Obama in the White House twice?


    Only if you consider Novus Ordinarians to be Catholic.


    I have a recording of Fr. Hewko's sermon on the Sunday after the election that first put Obama in the White House.  He got to the pulpit and the first words out of his mouth were "If you voted for Obama, do not approach the Communion rail until you have been to Confession because you are in the state of mortal sin". Needless to say it did not apply to anyone in the chapel (visitors excluded).

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    « Reply #149 on: March 15, 2016, 12:15:13 PM »
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    Would those be the Catholics who overwhelmingly put Obama in the White House twice?


    I am persuaded that Catholics generally have never been the most enlightened of voters.  And I mean Catholics who went faithfully to the Old Mass.