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Offline gladius_veritatis

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« Reply #90 on: May 06, 2011, 01:35:37 PM »
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  • Quote from: stevusmagnus
    Please enlighten us...


    Light serves no purpose for those who love the darkness...

    Al Qaeda, like OBL himself, is a creation of the CIA.

    FWIW, stevie, does it strike you as odd that the story has changed multiple times and BO has refused to produce any actual evidence to support his claim?
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    « Reply #91 on: May 06, 2011, 01:40:49 PM »
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  •  :detective:

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    Al-Qaeda confirmed the death of its leader Osama bin Laden, in a statement posted on jihadist Internet forums on Friday, the US monitoring group SITE Intelligence reported.


    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/qaeda-confirms-death-of-osama-bin-laden-site/articleshow/8179268.cms

    SITE Intelligence Group is owned by Rita Katz.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SITE_Institute
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rita_Katz

     :reporter:

    ok then. It must be true. {rolleyes smirky snarky smiley}

    {charitable smiley}




    Offline gladius_veritatis

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    « Reply #92 on: May 06, 2011, 02:02:35 PM »
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  • These are the three parts of an excellent docuмentary about Al Qaeda from the Corbett Report:





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    Offline gladius_veritatis

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    « Reply #93 on: May 06, 2011, 02:05:44 PM »
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    ...in a statement posted on jihadist Internet forums...


    "Next up on CBS (Comatose, Brainwashed Suckers), an in-depth report on the evils of investing in precious metals..."
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    « Reply #94 on: May 06, 2011, 02:16:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: gladius_veritatis
    Al Qaeda, like OBL himself, is a creation of the CIA.


    Nice.  :rolleyes:

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    FWIW, stevie, does it strike you as odd that the story has changed multiple times and BO has refused to produce any actual evidence to support his claim?


    No. New facts are always coming to light. Those who talk to the press are going on the best intel they have and often are parsing their words so they don't blurt out a gaffe that ends up having political consequences.

    BO classifying the photos was a smart move. Releasing them would have given the enemy an opportunity to enrage the Middle-East populous further and use the photos as a recruiting tool.

    The decision also shows class as America is not one to publiclize gory photos of a dead enemy to the world. Being dignified and civilized we gave the body a Muslim burial and left it at that.

    Besides, no matter what photos were released you and other conspiracists would have undoubtedly claimed they were fakes or were doctored, etc. etc. ad infinitum. As proof you don't even accept Al Queda's confirmation of his death. No "proof" would ever be sufficient as accepting any "proof" would require you to doubt your a priori dogma that the NWO and other grand conspirators are running the world. After all, if they are actually telling the truth about OBL, what ELSE have they been telling the truth about?

    Your secure makeshift world of paranoia and the joy and freedom of imaginitive make-believe conspiracy theories would then be brought to an end and you'd have to face the fact that almost all significant world events were not calculated in a back-room, but that there is actually an unpredictable element to these things, some of which happen for unforeseen reasons. A lot of major actions in world history had unintended and unforeseen consequences.

    If you admitted this. you'd be forced to put your trust in God instead of trusting in yourself and your web of theories from which you derive a temporary false sense of security and false "understanding" of the madness around you.

    Indeed it is much easier to write the current depressing reality off as a masterminded fraud and detach from it rather than actually face this ugly reality and try to work to change it for the better. I only pray that God snaps you out of your current psychological cocoon of delusion and makes use of you to do good, before you end up the old "crazy" man in the nursing home rattling on about alien abductions and black helicopters.  :geezer:


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    « Reply #95 on: May 06, 2011, 03:41:13 PM »
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  • Stevus, I find your rants on "conspiracy theories" to be immature, uncharitable, illogical, and filled with ignorance. First of all, being aware of a government whose primary goal is to promote their satanic nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr does not make one put trust in themselves. It draws them closer to God. Don't you know that God uses suffering as a means of drawing people closer to Him? It's the same thing with the government.

    Your constant denial of these "conspiracy theories" only shows that you haven't done much consistent research. You instead base your opinions on a site that can be edited by anyone (Wikipedia). How do you know that a freemason didn't write what you're reading on there?

    Bin Laden has likely been dead for years. And even if his recent death was real, what would it change about our government, our economy, or anything else? The war in Afghanistan is a waste of both time and money, not to mention we're sending billions of dollars each year to Pakistan, a country that we don't even get along with all that well. Al Qaeda confirming Bin Laden's death makes little difference considering Al Qaeda may actually be a fabrication, meaning he's not real and was made up by the CIA. There's a few details yet to be worked out on that, but you can't expect to know everything about it when you have a government that constantly lies to you.

    Stevus, I suggest not commenting on any of these "conspiracy theories" anymore until you can carry on a serious conversation with us rather than laughing at everything we post on the subject. I would, however, like to know one thing. Do you at all support Obama or any of the decisions he's made since taking office?
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #96 on: May 06, 2011, 03:47:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: gladius_veritatis
    "Next up on CBS (Comatose, Brainwashed Suckers)


    That's what CBS should stand for!  :laugh1:
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #97 on: May 06, 2011, 03:56:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: stevusmagnus
    Nice.


    It is not a question of nice or...not nice...but whether or not it is true.

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    Those who talk to the press are going on the best intel they have and often are parsing their words so they don't blurt out a gaffe that ends up having political consequences.


    The WH pretended they WATCHED IT LIVE...but still screwed up their story...repeatedly.

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    Being dignified and civilized we gave the body a Muslim burial and left it at that.


    Moslems require that a body be buried IN THE GROUND.  You are just parroting the WH's and MSM's b.s., stevie.

    FWIW, we are NOT "classy", which fact is proved by the fact that we celebrated in the streets like those we have called barbarians for doing the same thing.

    Do you have ANY IDEA how long it takes to identify a body via DNA?  Well, you can be sure it requires more time than we supposedly had the body.

    In a word: Parroting all the WH and MSM bullsh*t in the world, and doing so until the end of time, will not actually amount to a shred of actual evidence to support this highly-dubious claim.

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    As proof you don't even accept Al Queda's confirmation of his death.


    This is only proof of the fact that I do not think Al Qaeda is anything other than a CIA creation -- nothing more.

    Do you really believe there are "jihadist forums"?  Is there an Al Qaeda website, too??? LOL!

    "terrorist.org...the best place to learn the truth..."

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    If you admitted this. you'd be forced to put your trust in God...


    I trust God in matters of Faith, precisely because He reveals things I cannot otherwise know.  In matters like this, I prefer to examine ACTUAL EVIDENCE.
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    « Reply #98 on: May 06, 2011, 03:57:27 PM »
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  • "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #99 on: May 06, 2011, 04:17:26 PM »
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  • From washingtonsblog (linked above)...

    FRIDAY, MAY 6, 2011

    Bin Had

    Preface: You can either dismiss all of the allegations in the first part of this post as nutty conspiracy theories, or decide that they are real and that I am using parody. Your choice. Either way, it is clear that we've been had ...

    Forget that Bin Laden likely received CIA training and support in fighting against the Russians in Afghanistan. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

    Forget the allegations by France's oldest and second-largest newspaper that a CIA agent met with Bin Laden two months before 9/11, and the claim by a former FBI translator that Bin Laden worked with the CIA right up until 9/11.

    Forget that 9/11 was entirely foreseeable, and that government more or less heard the 9/11 hijackers' plans from their own mouths.

    Forget that Dick Cheney was in charge of all counter-terrorism exercises, activities and responses on 9/11 (see this Department of State announcement, this Department of State announcement, this CNN article and this essay), and that:
    In the 70's - Cheney and Rumsfeld were instrumental in generating fake intelligence exaggerating the Soviet threat in order to undermine coexistence between the U.S. and Soviet Union, which conveniently justified huge amounts of cold war spending (and see this)
    According to former high-level intelligence officer Melvin Goodman, Cheney orchestrated phony intelligence for the Congress in order to get an endorsement for covert arms shipments to anti-government forces in Angola
    Cheney and Rumsfeld (and many other high-level officials in the Bush Administration) were prominent members of a thinktank which called for a new American empire well before 9/11, and lamented that, without a "catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor", transformation of America into an empire would be very slow.
    Forget that governments from around the world admit that they carry out fαℓѕє fℓαg terrorism to justify their political goals.

    Finally, forget that the U.S. could easily have captured Bin Laden in 2001 or 2007, but chose not to do so.

    Bin Had

    Ignoring the above, it is still obvious that we've been had.

    Specifically, only 5 hours after the 9/11 attacks, Donald Rumsfeld said "my interest is to hit Saddam". He also said "Go massive . . . Sweep it all up. Things related and not."
    And at 2:40 p.m. on September 11th, in a memorandum of discussions between top administration officials, several lines below the statement "judge whether good enough [to] hit S.H. [that is, Saddam Hussein] at same time", is the statement "Hard to get a good case." In other words, top officials knew that there wasn't a good case that Hussein was behind 9/11, but they wanted to use the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to justify war with Iraq anyway.

    Moreover, "Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the [9/11] attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda".

    And a Defense Intelligence Terrorism Summary issued in February 2002 by the United States Defense Intelligence Agency cast significant doubt on the possibility of a Saddam Hussein-al-Qaeda conspiracy.

    And yet Bush, Cheney and other top administration officials claimed repeatedly for years that Saddam was behind 9/11. See this analysis. Indeed, Bush administration officials apparently swore in a lawsuit that Saddam was behind 9/11.

    Moreover, President Bush's March 18, 2003 letter to Congress authorizing the use of force against Iraq, includes the following paragraph:
    (2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
    Therefore, the Bush administration expressly justified the Iraq war to Congress by representing that Iraq planned, authorized, committed, or aided the 9/11 attacks. See this.

    Moreover, the torture program which Cheney created was specifically aimed at producing false confessions in an attempt to link Iraq and 9/11: er, the type of torture used since 9/11 was a special type of torture specifically aimed at creating false confessions:
    Senator: Government Used Communist Torture Techniques Aimed at Extracting FALSE Confessions

     Humanitarian Aid Worker: Torture Only Stopped When I Pretended I Was In Al Qaeda
    Under torture, Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi claimed there was a link between Saddam Hussein, al-Qaida and WMD
     One of the Main Sources for the 9/11 Commission Report was Tortured Until He Agreed to Sign a Confession that He Was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ
     9/11 Mastermind: "During ... My Interrogation I Gave A Lot Of False Information In Order To Satisfy What I Believed The Interrogators Wished To Hear"
     Self-Confessed 9/11 "Mastermind" Also Falsely Confessed to Crimes He Didn't Commit
    Most of the 9/11 Commission Report was Based on 3rd Hand Reports of What People Said While Being Tortured
    And see this.

    As American historian, investigative journalist and policy analyst Gareth Porter writes this week:
    Cheney and Rumsfeld were determined not to allow a focus on bin Laden to interfere with their plan for a U.S. invasion of Iraq to overthrow the Saddam Hussein regime.
    It's not just Iraq.
    Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair says that Dick Cheney's vision of policy towards the Middle East after 9/11 was to re-draw the map.

    Porter writes in the Asia Times:

    Feith's book, War and Decision, released last month, provides excerpts of the paper Rumsfeld sent to President George W Bush on September 30, 2001, calling for the administration to focus not on taking down Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network but on the aim of establishing "new regimes" in a series of states [including Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia and Lebanon ]
    There are some bad guys out there, but their importance has been greatly exaggerated to justify America's imperial ambitions. No wonder former U.S. National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative".

    Bin Laden might have been a bad guy ... but the way his life and death have been used has been dishonest.
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    « Reply #100 on: May 06, 2011, 04:58:42 PM »
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    New facts are always coming to light.


    Well, when new facts that are FACTUAL 'come to light', and the WH and MSM get the 'definitive' version of their story straight, you be sure to let us know, okay?
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    « Reply #101 on: May 06, 2011, 09:15:36 PM »
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    The decision also shows class as America is not one to publiclize gory photos of a dead enemy to the world. Being dignified and civilized we gave the body a Muslim burial and left it at that.


    Yes just like all the barbarian apes hanging from light posts rejoicing and celebrating his death like a bunch of 1789 bloodthirsty revolutionaries.

    You are delusional!  :fryingpan:

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    « Reply #102 on: May 06, 2011, 09:54:55 PM »
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  • "In politics nothing happens by chance. If something happens, then you can bet that it was planned that way."
    -FDR


    These guys are at the least sociopaths sick on lust for power. But most are probably actually the devil incarnate on earth.

    The government did release gorey, bloody pictures and they showed them over and over on Fox news trying to get a reaction from the people to request that they NOT show pictures of OBL.

    I believe my eyes, all others go ahead and believe Hannity at your peril.


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    « Reply #103 on: May 07, 2011, 01:15:18 PM »
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  • Interesting quote I found from bin Laden

    "I'm fighting so I can die a martyr and go to heaven to meet God. Our fight now is against the Americans. "

    Osama bin Laden


    Please pray for my soul.
    R.I.P. 8/17/22

    My new blog @ https://myforever.blog/blog/

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    « Reply #104 on: May 07, 2011, 02:43:36 PM »
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  • Well, when you find actual evidence that supports the recent claim of BO, please let us know...
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