I think we have to define the term "conspiratorial" first.  

The cօռspιʀαcιҽs I've pointed out have a long-range goal, are part of the mystery of iniquity, are part of a campaign of deception.  That is why I don't classify the creation of the Fed as part of a conspiracy.  A greedy, stupid, short-sighted decision is not a conspiracy.   But there's a fine line, since the Fed and its promotion of runaway debt was a crucial element of what some call the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, and what I think in the future will simply be known as the Americanized ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Republics, victims of Mystery Babylon.  

Now that I think about it more closely, what strike me as "cօռspιʀαcιҽs" are the revelation-of-the-method ritualistic things, where the world buys into this giant con that succeeds due to its sheer brazenness;  the "Big Lie" kind of event.

BP has nothing to do with that, even less with Fukushima.  If there is some collusion or some greed involved in the BP situation, there isn't anything Satanic or nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr-y about it, from what I can tell.  Maybe there were some palms greased, things weren't inspected like they should have been, greed won the day, but this is not what I consider a conspiracy.

With the particles of radioactive dust floating around the world, that also wouldn't be a conspiracy, it would be an opinion about the aftermath of a natural disaster.  I'm aware I was the one who first classified it as a conspiracy, probably confusing the alarmist rhetoric of certain conspiracy-theorists with cօռspιʀαcιҽs themselves.

The swine flu vaccine was exposed by a European employee of the manufacturer who happened to do an extra test, finding that a MASSIVE amount was clearly and intentionally tainted in a way that would have done incalculable damage.

That is hearsay from one person, or from one report on the Internet.  Yet far more than one scientist has said that there are chemical imbalances in peoples'  brains that justify anti-depressants, something that is manifestly false. There is all sorts of disinfo out there about so many things.  I don't have the proof of much, just my gut and my intellect, hopefully guided by the Holy Ghost, as you have yours.  Certain things ring true and others don't.

Chemtrails, the government poisoning people and building prison camps, I am deaf to all of this, I think it's a red herring for the "truthers" to deal with.  The spiritual poison meted out by the education system, the media and the doctors is far scarier to me than Chemtrails.  The body is more resilient than people give it credit for.

I think it has become clear that, in the chaos that's coming, there will be no way to organize any kind of gulag system.  I think lots of these "cօռspιʀαcιҽs" are feints to get people to worry about their bodies rather than their souls.  Hence the Alex Jones crowd who bray constantly about "freedom" while often being atheists.    

Also, Caminus, I explained the reason for the psychological trauma inflicted by Satan.  By denying the truth about our leaders, about our countries, about the anti-Catholic trend of the world, people become, in a way, COMPLICIT in this anti-Catholic trend.  Instead of soldiers of Christ, they act like soft-bellied wimps who worry about their picket fences and their lives of comfort.

If the devil's job, as I said, and as I'm sure you don't disagree, is to win souls for hell by making humanity displeasing to God, don't you think this is one way he'd go about it?  Make people lovers of lies, in deep denial, soft and only concerned with themselves and their material well-being?  That is the whole history of the second half of the 20th century, this lost generation ( generally speaking ) or series of generations of the Apostasy.

Just to add more to my windbaggery, things like the JFK killing and 9/11 and the moon landings are meant to look fake, there are deliberate holes in the official stories.  This is what Hoffman calls "revelation of the method."  This is meant to create psychological trauma among the populace, because when they know that something is wrong, and then go back to ignoring it out of cowardice or human respect, the devil has their minds and souls just a bit more tightly in his grip.

What is the devil's main goal?  To make people displeasing to God.  Well, do you think God enjoys willfully ignorant, cowardly people who flee the truth in order to pop Viagra, stuff their faces and drive Mercedes-Benzes?

As I've said before, reason is not at loggerheads with faith, though your posts seem to insinuate otherwise.

My point was simply that the evidence can be discerned by natural reason alone.  In other words, the possession of divine faith is not necessary in order to "decipher" yours or Hoffman's view of history.  It is a clever interpretation that appeals to the occult.  It has nothing to do with the Catholic understanding of history precisely because discerning these facts have nothing to do divine faith, not even remotely.  An analogous situation regards abortion.  A man can discern that abortion is abhorrent without possessing divine faith.  He bases this judgment upon the principles of the natural law.  

The fideism that you seem to think you detect in my posts is unfounded, injurious inference.  As I've pointed out before, contingent singulars, concrete historical events for example, pertain to the practical intellect.  Reason unaided by faith, or that philosophy which aids the faith deals in necessary truths according to the proper object of the speculative intellect.  You are confounding these two objects of reason and thus implicitly claiming that secular events serve as a motive of credibility for divine revelation.  It is a ridiculous and ignorant assertion.  

A 9/11 "truther" is correct about 9/11, but he is myopic compared to a Catholic who has fit this event into a larger picture.  Likewise, such a Catholic is myopic compared to God, we will never know every detail about everything that's going on, and there is room for friendly disagreements about non-dogmatic matters.

 

A 9/11 truther may suspect conspiracy and rightly so.  But it does not follow that he is anywhere nearer to discovering the true meaning of history, for in reality, he serves another facet of the Kingdom of Satan.  It's like the extreme liberal being denounces by the moderate liberal.  They are both blind leading or denouncing the blind.  Discerning the moral actions of men has nothing whatever to do with understanding reality, except insofar as one sees all as so many varying evils that happen within the City of Man or the Devil.  A large, national conspiracy does not differ in species than a man who conspires to cheat on his wife.  But you would never claim the knowledge of the existence of the latter would hold the key to discerning all of history.  Therein lies your fallacy.  

But the point is, the 9/11 "truther" is telling the truth about 9/11.  The problem is that knowing 9/11 was a snow job is not THE truth.  It's just one historical fact among many.

It's one historical fact among millions and millions.  Knowledge of even all of them combined will never serve to lift man above his natural state.  Even if a society were built purely upon natural justice, acted according to the dictates of the natural law and acquired moral virtue, a truly perfect natural society, discerning such a fact or acknowledging could never bring a man into the realm of divine faith, which is an absolutely necessary virtue with which to understand the meaning of history.  Much less discerning the wicked machinations of neo-pagans.  Hoffman's interesting interpretation appeals to the occult investigator, but it doesn't touch the Catholic conception of history.  

On the contrary, a Catholic interpretation of history is based on the fundamental truth that there are only two Kingdoms on earth, one is the Kingdom of God, to which good Catholics belong, the other is the Kingdom of Satan, to which all others belong.

That's nice.  And your point is?

That a "truth teller" who serves the Kingdom of Satan is no friend of a member of the Kingdom of God, objectively speaking and that any interpretation of history that neglects this fact is misleading at best.  

Inflicting "psychological trauma" on fellow members of the Kingdom of Satan doesn't square with a Catholic conception of history.  

So Satan doesn't deceive people in order to keep them part of his kingdom?  I think it is your view that doesn't square with a Catholic conception of history, as you implicitly deny, like StevusMagnus, the mystery of iniquity.

Is purposely deceiving someone in mathematics keeping someone from the Kingdom of God?  Why would Satan decieve the already deceived?  He might do so simply because he is that malicious, but it matters little regarding eternal salvation since that is his ultimate end, to deceive men by propagating lies about God.  A truth regarding a contingent event within a bigger lie is ultimately meaningless according to eternity.  Discerning the truth of 9/11 will never get a man closer to God or free him in the least from the Kingdom of Satan.  He could possess all the secret docuмents of the government, know all the lies with perfect knowledge, see with clarity the true motives behind the event, but in the end, it will do him no good.  No more good than learning who the President is, the name of his neighbors dog or the real reason why his brother went to college.  

Men must turn to God and pray for the light that leads to Him.  He must use the powers of his speculative intellect to analyze the effects of nature that lead to an ultimate cause.  He must turn to prayer and study, not to the daily tabloid wherein is found the latest sad story that is unfolding within the Kingdom of Satan, whether it be plain as day or a conspiracy to commit a crime.  

And your powers of inference are sorely lacking.  In fact, your understanding of the mystery of iniquity is borderline Pelagian and extremely myopic.    

That is why I don't classify the creation of the Fed as part of a conspiracy.  A greedy, stupid, short-sighted decision is not a conspiracy.

How much do you know about the history of the Fed, the history of money in general, the way in which the Fed came into existence, etc?  To say its creation is NOT part of the larger conspiracy strikes me as absurd, IF one knows its background, etc.  Money manipulation is THE tool of the would-be-masters of the universe -- and it has been since WELL before the Fed came into being.

How do you know Bin-Laden is not..... ALIVE??

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How do you know what the government says is true?

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Also, Caminus, I explained the reason for the psychological trauma inflicted by Satan.  By denying the truth about our leaders, about our countries, about the anti-Catholic trend of the world, people become, in a way, COMPLICIT in this anti-Catholic trend.  Instead of soldiers of Christ, they act like soft-bellied wimps who worry about their picket fences and their lives of comfort.

If the devil's job, as I said, and as I'm sure you don't disagree, is to win souls for hell by making humanity displeasing to God, don't you think this is one way he'd go about it?  Make people lovers of lies, in deep denial, soft and only concerned with themselves and their material well-being?  That is the whole history of the second half of the 20th century, this lost generation ( generally speaking ) or series of generations of the Apostasy.

St. Thomas taught long ago that it is a form of sacrilege for Catholics to be under the dominion of unbelievers.  This is nothing new my friend.  That is why I do not vote for anyone, not even the lesser of two evils.  

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