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Offline Incredulous

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Big anti-Trump riot in Berkeley tonight
« on: February 02, 2017, 12:53:29 AM »
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    Police allowed this to happen.  

    They were told to not engage the rioters.

    Fire hoses would have ended it in minutes.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Big anti-Trump riot in Berkeley tonight
    « Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 02:54:54 AM »
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  • Trump is a bought-out corporatist lie. Effectively, he is Hillary Clinton with an X chromosome. I welcome the protests because he should've never been elected.

    It is time for a grassroots candidate that isn't a lackey of George Soros and the money-changers. Then and only then will you get a candidate who has morals and deals with politics in more ways than dollar bills.
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    « Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 04:14:26 AM »
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    It is time for a grassroots candidate that isn't a lackey of George Soros and the money-changers.


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    Big anti-Trump riot in Berkeley tonight
    « Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 04:31:03 AM »
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  • You live in a country with probably rigged elections, where whoever has the most cash wins the presidential election. That's the only way a billionaire guy who has never held political office and is more likely than not, a Mongoloid, is president.
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    « Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 04:45:07 AM »
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    You live in a country with probably rigged elections, where whoever has the most cash wins the presidential election. .


    Wow.   :facepalm:   You haven't been paying attention to anything about the American election.  Nothing at all.  Nothing that matters.  

    Just don't.  Accept that you don't know what you're talking about.  
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    « Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 08:09:12 AM »
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  • There are millions and millions who have not been paying attention.  I estimate at least 50% of the population of the UK.

    Saying that it feel like living in a much more complex version of the parable of the good Samaritan at the moment.

    I sometimes think of the story of the world as like solving a rubik's cube.  The first layer is very straightforward as to where the truth is and where it is not.  Things get progressively more ordered as the middle layer is solved.

    On the final layer, all hell seems to break lose and it seems that one is back at the start BUT then thing suddenly settle down just when you least expected and the cube is solved.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 08:30:23 AM »
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  • Yeah, I can see what you mean... a Talmudic, judeo-masonic Rubrics cube?  :scratchchin:



    First Epistle Of Saint Paul To The Thessalonians

    Chapter 2


      [15] Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men;

    [16] Prohibiting us to speak to the Gentiles, that they may be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath of God is come upon them to the end.

    Why, just look at their "Wailing Wall scam:


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 08:39:57 AM »
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  • No, I did not mean that.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 02:04:55 PM »
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    CBS News video



    Police allowed this to happen.  

    They were told to not engage the rioters.

    Fire hoses would have ended it in minutes.



    I really don't know what to make of all this.  The riots seem anything but spontaneous, and the minimal involvement of police when people were destroying icons of the new world order like starbucks and banks causes one to hesitate in identifying the leftist powers as the primary puppet masters here.

    If Milo is a plant whose object is to subvert the alt-right by legitimizing faggotry, who benefits by transforming him into a victim?  The popular view would conflate Milo with the alt-right, so an attack on Milo=an attack on the alt-right.  And the alt-right as victims doesn't at all align with the leftist media agenda.

    If Milo is "legit" (i.e., he's "just" a gay Jew Catholic who really is committed against feminism, abortion, etc.-- which is difficult to believe) then the riots appear to take on a more "organic" form and maybe it really was just a bunch of burnt cupcakes throwing a fit and looking to start a war.  But someone told the police not to interfere.  And I suspect that someone organized (read: paid) people wearing all black and covering their faces to start beating people and burning things down.  Soros?  Seems that if he's behind it, he's admitting he lost.  He's always been committed to deceptive tactics and psy-ops.  Hiring leftists to commit public mayhem as leftists doesn't seem to align with goals or his M.O.

    And then there's the media, who are barely covering it (e.g., "groundhog day" and Gorsuch's "fascism forever" club are trending on twitter over the riots, which are referred to as, at best, "violent protests" by CNN et al.) which tells me that they either a) haven't gotten their marching orders yet b) have gotten conflicting marching orders or c) their marching orders are to ignore it and report it gently without commentary.  If C, then the idea that this was organized in order to make the right look bad don't really hold up to scrutiny.

    Again, I don't know what to make of all of it.  Hopefully more info will come with time.
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    « Reply #9 on: February 02, 2017, 03:17:34 PM »
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  • Is anyone else unsettled by this?  The idea that someone on the right, in Trump's camp, organized the violence?  How believable is that theory for the time being, with what we know?

    I don't rule out the possibility that no (or few strings) were being pulled, either.  I think that false flags are absolutely real but at the same time, people are capable of behaving badly without someone paying them to.  Original sin and all that.  
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    « Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 04:16:12 PM »
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    Is anyone else unsettled by this?  The idea that someone on the right, in Trump's camp, organized the violence?  How believable is that theory for the time being, with what we know?

    I don't rule out the possibility that no (or few strings) were being pulled, either.  I think that false flags are absolutely real but at the same time, people are capable of behaving badly without someone paying them to.  Original sin and all that.  


    All I know is that after a long day and when I was able to, I *used* to watch about the last 10 minutes of the local news to catch the weather and then the first 15 minutes or so of the world news - but now when I can, I watch old westerns on the old western channel and could care less about all the lies and liberal BS that the crooks organize then keep cramming their stinking iniquitous lies down everyone's throat.

    Our country is full of college educated (brainwashed) idiots who will protest themselves right into extinction - but not before they drag down everyone else they possibly can.  
    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man." - Fr. Hesse


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    « Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 04:49:00 PM »
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  • I was young enough to be inherently stupid but old enough to care when Loose Change was first released and when the "Truther" movement first started taking off.  I stopped caring after about five years of being really committed to it and then started completely ignoring all of it because it's like, "what can you do?"  Either Alex Jones and Co. are telling the truth and the world is so far gone that the global elite don't care who knows, or he's a disinfo agent and everyone who goes to his website is put on a yellow-list.  Either way, we're screwed when push comes to shove.  "Put not your hope in princes," as King David says.  I still take that to heart.

    But Trump's election challenged virtually everything I believed about politics.  All indications to date show that he's his own man, or at least, he's enough of his own man as to seriously mitigate the puppet masters.  The American people ACTUALLY spoke, democracy appears to have ACTUALLY worked (inasmuch as a non-Jew, non-mason, fairly decent man who values homogenity and monoculturalism was elected), and the American people ACTUALLY preferred that to jew-fags and women in pants' suits, and now he's ACTUALLY doing what he said.

    This is all very new to me, and I don't know how to handle it.  I think I'll still be processing it by the time he's out of office.
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    « Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 05:41:34 PM »
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  • Milo is the real deal.  For all of his faults, he's actually the real deal.  And it just goes to show how screwed up our society is for such a filthy sinner to be an actual voice of reason.  

    I know that a lot of people here and in Trad Cath land are unable to stomach this guy.  I wasn't raised Catholic.  Let me put it this way, I grew up watching George Carlin and Andrew Dice Clay.  I had an HBO upbringing.  A lot of Americans have.  

    In any event, these riots have demonstrated that there is no discourse between the Right and the Left.  None at all.  There is only emoting.  Only rhetoric.  Only reactions.  No talking.

    Fighting in the streets is the order of the day.  We will see more of this--and hopefully the Right fighting back with their fists--in the next 12 months.

    But indeed, the time for dialectic is over.  The only people the Right will be able to converse with, at this point, is the Right.  The Left is as insane as you fear.  Truly insane monomania.
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    « Reply #13 on: February 02, 2017, 05:49:26 PM »
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    Milo is the real deal.  For all of his faults, he's actually the real deal.  And it just goes to show how screwed up our society is for such a filthy sinner to be an actual voice of reason.  

    I know that a lot of people here and in Trad Cath land are unable to stomach this guy.  I wasn't raised Catholic.  Let me put it this way, I grew up watching George Carlin and Andrew Dice Clay.  I had an HBO upbringing.  A lot of Americans have.  

    In any event, these riots have demonstrated that there is no discourse between the Right and the Left.  None at all.  There is only emoting.  Only rhetoric.  Only reactions.  No talking.

    Fighting in the streets is the order of the day.  We will see more of this--and hopefully the Right fighting back with their fists--in the next 12 months.

    But indeed, the time for dialectic is over.  The only people the Right will be able to converse with, at this point, is the Right.  The Left is as insane as you fear.  Truly insane monomania.


    What makes you say he's the real deal?

    I'm not committed to think he is or isn't, I don't know.  Do you think he's the real deal just because he says the right thing about some important topics?  I'm not saying that's not a good reason, but we live in a day and age of subterfuge.  Look at Archbishop Sheen.  He was a voice of incredible reason when the world needed him, but didn't even issue a whisper against the changes.  Knowing that there was communist infiltration of the Church, some have suggested that Sheen was an integral part of it.  He played the orthodox voice of America, and when lay Catholics saw the changes and didn't know what to think, they looked to the orthodox voice of America... who went right along with the changes without a hiccup, as though everything was just business as usual.

    There's a reason why all the nostalgic trads only post videos of Sheen on TV from before the council.

    it's difficult, when looking at public figures, to know whether or not they're actually a voice of reason or if they're just doing/saying the right thing to gain a following, and then lead people off a cliff when their handlers say "go."  These are wicked times.
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    « Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 05:55:26 PM »
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    Trump is a bought-out corporatist lie. Effectively, he is Hillary Clinton with an X chromosome. I welcome the protests because he should've never been elected.

    It is time for a grassroots candidate that isn't a lackey of George Soros and the money-changers. Then and only then will you get a candidate who has morals and deals with politics in more ways than dollar bills.


    if your store or home got its windows busted out, i am sure you would still like the rioters[/size]


     

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