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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: NishantXavier on November 11, 2024, 07:55:52 AM

Title: Based Thomas Massie retweets and approves President Trump's Free Speech msg.
Post by: NishantXavier on November 11, 2024, 07:55:52 AM
As I said before the election, Anti-Zionist Congressman Thomas Massie endorsing President Trump is a strong sign President Trump is not in fact "controlled by the Jєωs" (of AIPAC) etc. I took heat for that, but President Trump's recent measures to defend, preserve and support free speech (which the Jєωs want to shut down) are a further confirmation I was correct. And more importantly, Massie and Trump are working together to defend free speech. Free speech, within due limits (no blasphemy and no violence), just as is also allowed for that matter on this forum, and as many Catholic states also allowed within due limits before Vatican II, is compatible with Catholic teaching, provided the duty of everyone to seek the Truth and live in accordance with known Truth is not denied. Rights and duties go together and both come from God. Anyway, here is the X post of Congressman Massie: God bless Congressman Massie in his courageous stance against the AIPACers.

"President Trump’s statement is excellent!

I already have a bill to implement a small portion of Trump’s bold, sweeping, and necessary initiative to restore freedom of speech!

It ends taxpayer funded  censorship exposed by
@shellenberger (https://x.com/shellenberger)
&
@JudiciaryGOP (https://x.com/JudiciaryGOP)
:
 (https://t.co/z99NYgkElT)https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8519?s=1&r=5

https://x.com/i/status/1855119856649355729
Title: Re: Based Thomas Massie retweets and approves President Trump's Free Speech msg.
Post by: NishantXavier on November 11, 2024, 07:57:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/UEQ41eh.png)
Title: Re: Based Thomas Massie retweets and approves President Trump's Free Speech msg.
Post by: Mark 79 on November 11, 2024, 08:04:55 AM
Once again you reveal yourself with your use of the generic "Christian."  Practicing Catholics (not to be confused with the Novus Ordo) are the only true Christians.

Make America CATHOLIC again.
Title: Re: Based Thomas Massie retweets and approves President Trump's Free Speech msg.
Post by: NishantXavier on November 11, 2024, 08:12:58 AM
"The Catholic (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03449a.htm) Church (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03744a.htm) is by far the largest, the most widespread, and the most ancient of Christian (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03712a.htm) communions in the world, and is moreover the mighty trunk from which the other communions claiming to be Christian (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03712a.htm) have broken off at one time or another. If, then, we limit the application of the term Christendom (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03699b.htm) to this, its most authentic expression, the unity of Christendom (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03699b.htm) is not a lost ideal to be recovered, but a stupendous reality which has always been in stable possession. For not only has this Catholic (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03449a.htm) Church (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03744a.htm) ever taught that unity is an essential (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05543b.htm) note of the true (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15073a.htm) Church of Christ (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08374c.htm), but throughout her long history she has been, to the amazement of the world, distinguished by the most conspicuous unity of faith (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05752c.htm) and government, and this notwithstanding that she has at all times embraced within her fold nationalities of the most different temperaments, and has had to contend with incessant oscillations of mental (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10321a.htm) speculation and political power. Still, in another and broader sense of the term, which is also the more usual and is followed in the present article, Christendom (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03699b.htm) includes not merely the Catholic (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03449a.htm) Church (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03744a.htm), but, together with it, the many other religious communions which have either directly or indirectly, separated from it, and yet, although in conflict both with it and among themselves as to various points of doctrine (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05075b.htm) and practice agree with it in this: that they look up to our Lord Jesus Christ (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08374c.htm) as the Founder of their Faith, and claim to make His teaching the rule of their lives. As these separated communities when massed together, indeed in some cases even of themselves, count a vast number of souls (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14153a.htm), among whom many are conspicuous for their religious earnestness, this extension of the term Christendom (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03699b.htm) to include them all has its solid justification. On the other hand, if it is accepted, it becomes no longer possible to speak of the unity of Christendom (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03699b.htm) but rather of a Christendom (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03699b.htm) torn by divisions and offering the saddest spectacle to the eyes. And then the question arises: Is this scandal (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13506d.htm) always to continue? The Holy See (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07424b.htm) has never tired of appealing in season and out of season for its removal but without meeting with much response from a world which had learnt to live contentedly within its sectarian enclosures. Happily a new spirit has lately come over these dissentient Christians (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03712a.htm), numbers of whom are becoming keenly sensitive to the paralyzing effects of division and an active reunion movement has arisen which, If far from being as widespread and solid as one could wish, is at least cherished on all sides by devout minds (https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10321a.htm)." https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15132a.htm


Title: Re: Based Thomas Massie retweets and approves President Trump's Free Speech msg.
Post by: Everlast22 on November 11, 2024, 08:15:22 AM
Once again you reveal yourself with your use of the generic "Christian."  Practicing Catholics (not to be confused with the Novus Ordo) are the only true Christians.

Make America CATHOLIC again.
This is just it though... It was NEVER Catholic. They just tolerated us, pretty much. 

That being said, this country was primed for degeneracy from the start... Whether they Masonic founding fathers knew it or not. Many of the Catholic hierarchy warned about the heresy of Americanism.
Title: Re: Based Thomas Massie retweets and approves President Trump's Free Speech msg.
Post by: NishantXavier on November 11, 2024, 08:20:05 AM
Christopher Columbus, who I believe was saintly and should be canonized as a Saint, first discovered America and consecrated it to Our Lady. I believe he sailed in a vessel that was named after Her Immaculate Conception.

Anyway, here is Pope Leo: "We traverse in spirit and thought the wide expanse of ocean; and although We have at other times addressed you in writing - chiefly when We directed Encyclical Letters to the bishops of the Catholic world-yet have We now resolved to speak to you separately, trusting that We shall be, God willing, of some assistance to the Catholic cause amongst you. To this We apply Ourselves with the utmost zeal and care; because We highly esteem and love exceedingly the young and vigorous American nation, in which We plainly discern latent forces for the advancement alike of civilization and of Christianity.

2. Not long ago, when your whole nation, as was fitting, celebrated, with grateful recollection and every manifestation of joy, the completion of the fourth century since the discovery of America (1892), We, too, commemorated together with you that most auspicious event, sharing in your rejoicings with equal good-will. Nor were We on that occasion content with offering prayers at a distance for your welfare and greatness. It was Our wish to be in some manner present with you in your festivities. Hence We cheerfully sent one who should represent Our person. Not without good reason did We take part in your celebration. For when America was, as yet, but a new-born babe, uttering in its cradle its first feeble cries, the Church took it to her bosom and motherly embrace. Columbus, as We have elsewhere expressly shown, sought, as the primary fruit of his voyages and labors, to open a pathway for the Christian faith into new lands and new seas. Keeping this thought constantly in view, his first solicitude, wherever he disembarked, was to plant upon the shore the sacred emblem of the cross. Wherefore, like as the Ark of Noe, surmounting the overflowing waters, bore the seed of Israel together with the remnants of the human race, even thus did the barks launched by Columbus upon the ocean carry into regions beyond the seas as well the germs of mighty States as the principles of the Catholic religion."

https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_l-xiii_enc_06011895_longinqua.html

Finally, even if a nation was never Catholic, every effort must be expended toward making it Catholic Christian anyway. But America does in fact have Catholic roots, together of course with some Protestantism, a little Deism etc.
Title: Re: Based Thomas Massie retweets and approves President Trump's Free Speech msg.
Post by: NishantXavier on November 11, 2024, 08:21:31 AM
Lord Baltimore's Catholic colony in Maryland practiced Religious Tolerance:
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/protin.htm

"8. Catholic Maryland: The First Tolerant American Colony
A. Patrick O'Hare
B. Martin Marty (P)
C. John Tracy Ellis
D. Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church (P)
Stories of Protestant intolerance in America prior to 1789 could be multiplied indefinitely. Jefferson and Madison, in pushing for complete religious freedom, were reacting primarily to these inter-Protestant wars for dominance, not the squabbles of post-Reformation Europe. Here we are concerned with the immediate era of the Protestant Revolution - roughly 1517 to 1600, so the above anecdotes will have to suffice as altogether typical examples.

9. Conclusion (Will Durant)

Title: Re: Based Thomas Massie retweets and approves President Trump's Free Speech msg.
Post by: Michelle on November 11, 2024, 08:34:00 AM
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Your propaganda is getting old!  The United States has NEVER been a Christian nation.  From its foundation, the US has been Masonic (naturalism, rejecting grace) and inhabited by heretics.  Heretics hold some Catholic truths but reject others. They reject the means of grace and therefore live in mortal sin, cut off from Christ.  They are not Christian but rather, follow false christs of their own imagining.  Making God in their own image and likeness.
God created all souls with natural virtues but that will not save them, neither does it please God.