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Offline graceseeker

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Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
« on: January 06, 2018, 01:21:54 PM »
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  • Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"

    I have heard that she believed the poor, those who depend on govt should be allowed to die because they are defective

    well, Folks.. Now you know--if you didn't before--why it is so important to get CATHOLICS elected into Congress and everywhere else... 

    that is the difference between protestants and Catholics, although evangelicals also believe human life is sacred and a few other "denominations"

    I am very angry when I think of people in Congress who agree w/ Ayn Rand... Who do they think t hey are? What if we thought THEY were "defective"?

    they wouldn't like it

    Whatever you do to the least of my People, you do unto Me" said Jesus

    and yes, I have heard that some people in congress agree with her/ admire her writings... I won't say which ones at this point bc I do not have irrefutable proof


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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 03:42:35 PM »
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  • I know, she's got that whole superman Atlas Shrugged thing going on.  Apparently Ronald Reagan was an admirer, as odd as that sounds.   

    https://atlassociety.org/objectivism/atlas-university/new-to-ayn-rand/launchpad-blog/5900-celebrity-ayn-rand-fan-ronald-reagan


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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 12:49:14 PM »
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  • I know, she's got that whole superman Atlas Shrugged thing going on.  Apparently Ronald Reagan was an admirer, as odd as that sounds.  

    https://atlassociety.org/objectivism/atlas-university/new-to-ayn-rand/launchpad-blog/5900-celebrity-ayn-rand-fan-ronald-reagan
    well, I doubt Reagan believed that the disadvantaged should be allowed to die..
    Now, I hate the current "entitlement" program. It needs to be totally re-DONE. There is massive waste going on there, and landlords who get rich off poor people (private owners of publically-controlled housing complexes)
    It is all just a scam for the wealthy to get rich off the poor. It needs to be changed. they charge ridiculous rent bc they know the govt can pay and does pay of course. The gov has no reason not to pay bc for the most part don't care about wasting taxpayer money

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 05:09:42 PM »
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  • well, I doubt Reagan believed that the disadvantaged should be allowed to die..
    Now, I hate the current "entitlement" program. It needs to be totally re-DONE. There is massive waste going on there, and landlords who get rich off poor people (private owners of publically-controlled housing complexes)
    It is all just a scam for the wealthy to get rich off the poor. It needs to be changed. they charge ridiculous rent bc they know the govt can pay and does pay of course. The gov has no reason not to pay bc for the most part don't care about wasting taxpayer money
    Yeah, I know, it's pretty sad.  The Church should run programs like that, not The State.  

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 02:44:48 PM »
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  • Yeah, I know, it's pretty sad.  The Church should run programs like that, not The State.  
    sure should. but the Church seems to be out to lunch. a homeless person going to the Church will hear from the priest or whomever to go to the govt!
    excuse me?? the govt is the problem 9 time out of ten. I am not bashing that 1 out of 10 part of it b/c some people really do benefit from some of the programs.. and some just do NOT have anywhere else to turn, although some of course just abuse the system.. but anyway..
    yeh, maybe the govt could built t he infrastructure... units people could live in, bare essentials.. a roof over head.. and the Churches could be entrusted to run the places.. I don't know.. no one seems to want to talk about this kind of thing... the pigs in WA.. all they seem to care about is the trough and how much grub they can get from it.. to hell w/ anyone else (flyovers..)
    my perceptions for whatever they are worth


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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 11:50:25 PM »
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  • sure should. but the Church seems to be out to lunch. a homeless person going to the Church will hear from the priest or whomever to go to the govt!
    excuse me?? the govt is the problem 9 time out of ten. I am not bashing that 1 out of 10 part of it b/c some people really do benefit from some of the programs.. and some just do NOT have anywhere else to turn, although some of course just abuse the system.. but anyway..
    yeh, maybe the govt could built t he infrastructure... units people could live in, bare essentials.. a roof over head.. and the Churches could be entrusted to run the places.. I don't know.. no one seems to want to talk about this kind of thing... the pigs in WA.. all they seem to care about is the trough and how much grub they can get from it.. to hell w/ anyone else (flyovers..)
    my perceptions for whatever they are worth

    Yeah, I don't think people care very much either.  The Catholic virtue of Charity seems lost on most everyone.  

    Apparently, in "the good old days," before King Henry made looting Church Property "fashionable," The Church had far more wealth and the means to produce it, than The State does today.  Unfortunately, we don't seem to be heading back in that direction just yet.  

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 04:24:23 PM »
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  • Yeah, I don't think people care very much either.  The Catholic virtue of Charity seems lost on most everyone.  

    Apparently, in "the good old days," before King Henry made looting Church Property "fashionable," The Church had far more wealth and the means to produce it, than The State does today.  Unfortunately, we don't seem to be heading back in that direction just yet.  
    Did you know the "Church" gave 250 million to stakeholders when the Banco Ambrosiano collapsed? The Vatican bank  was headed by someone who was likely a secret society member, Marcinkus.. given much power over the VAtican (not just the bank) by Paul VI who was also likely a member of the boy's club..
    Marcinkus claimed the money did not mean the Vatican was involved in the fraud.. Right.. but anyway... yeh, i am not sure I buy it that the Church does not have access to a lot of money...

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 12:35:09 PM »
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  • Did you know the "Church" gave 250 million to stakeholders when the Banco Ambrosiano collapsed? The Vatican bank  was headed by someone who was likely a secret society member, Marcinkus.. given much power over the VAtican (not just the bank) by Paul VI who was also likely a member of the boy's club..
    Marcinkus claimed the money did not mean the Vatican was involved in the fraud.. Right.. but anyway... yeh, i am not sure I buy it that the Church does not have access to a lot of money...
    No doubt there is and has always been corruption in The Church;  remember Judas Iscariot?  

    However, I think The Church's power has been greatly diminished over the past 5 centuries.  A Bishop used to have the power and the money to raise an army to sack a city.  That kind of power is way beyond the reach of The Church today.   


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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 02:03:20 PM »
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  • Back to Ayn Rand...

    Many people are unaware of her social positions and only support her ideas to reform the economy.

    p.s.  I would discourage anyone from reading Atlas Shrugged as it has quite lengthy and explicit pornographic sections.

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 03:45:51 PM »
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  • No doubt there is and has always been corruption in The Church;  remember Judas Iscariot?  

    However, I think The Church's power has been greatly diminished over the past 5 centuries.  A Bishop used to have the power and the money to raise an army to sack a city.  That kind of power is way beyond the reach of The Church today.  
    well, when the Mafia is involved, infiltrating the Church along w/ other nefarious Mafia-like groups... What can we expect?
    Notice how JP I was not made a saint, yet others in th modern age were! He likely knew that someone was out to get him.. and yet he was going to go through w/ his removals anyway
    he is a martyr in my opinion. 

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #10 on: January 12, 2018, 03:46:35 PM »
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  • Back to Ayn Rand...

    Many people are unaware of her social positions and only support her ideas to reform the economy.

    p.s.  I would discourage anyone from reading Atlas Shrugged as it has quite lengthy and explicit pornographic sections.
    that totally FIGURES


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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #11 on: January 15, 2018, 10:03:35 AM »
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  • Back to Ayn Rand...

    Many people are unaware of her social positions and only support her ideas to reform the economy.

    p.s.  I would discourage anyone from reading Atlas Shrugged as it has quite lengthy and explicit pornographic sections.
    just another Jєωιѕн degenerate 

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #12 on: January 15, 2018, 10:15:10 AM »
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  • "Ayn Rand" was a Russian Jєω born with the name Alisa Rosenbaum. She, like many Jєωs, changed her name to try to conceal her Jєωιѕнness. In hiding their Jєωιѕнness, they thought they could hide their subterfuge against non-Jєωs.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #13 on: January 15, 2018, 10:30:02 AM »
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  • well, when the Mafia is involved, infiltrating the Church along w/ other nefarious Mafia-like groups... What can we expect?
    Notice how JP I was not made a saint, yet others in th modern age were! He likely knew that someone was out to get him.. and yet he was going to go through w/ his removals anyway
    he is a martyr in my opinion.
    Really?  From what I understand he's well on his way to being Canonized, but for the miracle... 

    "He was declared a Servant of God by his successor, John Paul II, on 23 November 2003, the first step on the road to sainthood. Pope Francis confirmed his heroic virtue on 8 November 2017 and named him as Venerable."

    "For Luciani to be beatified, the investigators have to certify at least one miracle attributed to his intercession. For canonisation there must be a second miracle, though the reigning pope may waive these requirements altogether, as is often done in the case of beatified popes.
    It was reported in 2016 that a potential miracle attributed to the late pontiff's intercession occurred in to a nun in Buenos Aires in Argentina."

    "The journalist and vice-postulator for Luciani's cause of canonization, Stefania Falasca, published a new book in 2017 titled Pope Luciani, Chronicle of a Death, in which she revealed that John Paul I had complained of chest pains hours before his death, and the evening before, but paid no attention to it and ordered that his doctor not be called to examine the pope.[47] Falasca confirmed that, after interviewing the nuns who found him and docuмents from the Vatican Secret Archives, Luciani died of a heart attack in late evening hours of 28 September."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I#Canonization_process

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    Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
    « Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 12:47:07 PM »
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  • Really?  From what I understand he's well on his way to being Canonized, but for the miracle...

    "He was declared a Servant of God by his successor, John Paul II, on 23 November 2003, the first step on the road to sainthood. Pope Francis confirmed his heroic virtue on 8 November 2017 and named him as Venerable."

    "For Luciani to be beatified, the investigators have to certify at least one miracle attributed to his intercession. For canonisation there must be a second miracle, though the reigning pope may waive these requirements altogether, as is often done in the case of beatified popes.
    It was reported in 2016 that a potential miracle attributed to the late pontiff's intercession occurred in to a nun in Buenos Aires in Argentina."

    "The journalist and vice-postulator for Luciani's cause of canonization, Stefania Falasca, published a new book in 2017 titled Pope Luciani, Chronicle of a Death, in which she revealed that John Paul I had complained of chest pains hours before his death, and the evening before, but paid no attention to it and ordered that his doctor not be called to examine the pope.[47] Falasca confirmed that, after interviewing the nuns who found him and docuмents from the Vatican Secret Archives, Luciani died of a heart attack in late evening hours of 28 September."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I#Canonization_process
    no way did he die of a heart attack so that person writing about him is discredited in my eyes. No one dying of a heart attack is found looking peaceful...
    I guess those who say he looked peaceful could be wrong?
    I don't think the Vatican should be that secretive... and something must be done when the Vatican can have its own laws that are radically different than... say Italy's laws concerning how long to wait b4 embalming a person. In Italy you have to wait 24 hours. I have heard that JP I was embalmed just hours after death. But as we know the Vatican is a state separate from Italy.