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Offline Marcelino

Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 11:50:25 PM »
Quote from: graceseeker on January 10, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
sure should. but the Church seems to be out to lunch. a homeless person going to the Church will hear from the priest or whomever to go to the govt!
excuse me?? the govt is the problem 9 time out of ten. I am not bashing that 1 out of 10 part of it b/c some people really do benefit from some of the programs.. and some just do NOT have anywhere else to turn, although some of course just abuse the system.. but anyway..
yeh, maybe the govt could built t he infrastructure... units people could live in, bare essentials.. a roof over head.. and the Churches could be entrusted to run the places.. I don't know.. no one seems to want to talk about this kind of thing... the pigs in WA.. all they seem to care about is the trough and how much grub they can get from it.. to hell w/ anyone else (flyovers..)
my perceptions for whatever they are worth

Yeah, I don't think people care very much either.  The Catholic virtue of Charity seems lost on most everyone.  

Apparently, in "the good old days," before King Henry made looting Church Property "fashionable," The Church had far more wealth and the means to produce it, than The State does today.  Unfortunately, we don't seem to be heading back in that direction just yet.  
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Offline graceseeker

Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2018, 04:24:23 PM »
Quote from: Marcelino on January 10, 2018, 11:50:25 PM
Yeah, I don't think people care very much either.  The Catholic virtue of Charity seems lost on most everyone.  

Apparently, in "the good old days," before King Henry made looting Church Property "fashionable," The Church had far more wealth and the means to produce it, than The State does today.  Unfortunately, we don't seem to be heading back in that direction just yet.  
Did you know the "Church" gave 250 million to stakeholders when the Banco Ambrosiano collapsed? The Vatican bank  was headed by someone who was likely a secret society member, Marcinkus.. given much power over the VAtican (not just the bank) by Paul VI who was also likely a member of the boy's club..
Marcinkus claimed the money did not mean the Vatican was involved in the fraud.. Right.. but anyway... yeh, i am not sure I buy it that the Church does not have access to a lot of money...
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Offline Marcelino

Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 12:35:09 PM »
Quote from: graceseeker on January 11, 2018, 04:24:23 PM
Did you know the "Church" gave 250 million to stakeholders when the Banco Ambrosiano collapsed? The Vatican bank  was headed by someone who was likely a secret society member, Marcinkus.. given much power over the VAtican (not just the bank) by Paul VI who was also likely a member of the boy's club..
Marcinkus claimed the money did not mean the Vatican was involved in the fraud.. Right.. but anyway... yeh, i am not sure I buy it that the Church does not have access to a lot of money...
No doubt there is and has always been corruption in The Church;  remember Judas Iscariot?  

However, I think The Church's power has been greatly diminished over the past 5 centuries.  A Bishop used to have the power and the money to raise an army to sack a city.  That kind of power is way beyond the reach of The Church today.   
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Offline Marlelar

Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 02:03:20 PM »
Back to Ayn Rand...

Many people are unaware of her social positions and only support her ideas to reform the economy.

p.s.  I would discourage anyone from reading Atlas Shrugged as it has quite lengthy and explicit pornographic sections.
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Offline graceseeker

Re: Ayn Rand was a bad "Republican"
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 03:45:51 PM »
Quote from: Marcelino on January 12, 2018, 12:35:09 PM
No doubt there is and has always been corruption in The Church;  remember Judas Iscariot?  

However, I think The Church's power has been greatly diminished over the past 5 centuries.  A Bishop used to have the power and the money to raise an army to sack a city.  That kind of power is way beyond the reach of The Church today.  
well, when the Mafia is involved, infiltrating the Church along w/ other nefarious Mafia-like groups... What can we expect?
Notice how JP I was not made a saint, yet others in th modern age were! He likely knew that someone was out to get him.. and yet he was going to go through w/ his removals anyway
he is a martyr in my opinion. 
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