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Offline Roland Deschain

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Are Catholics permitted to vote Libertarian?
« on: October 16, 2012, 04:17:33 PM »
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    • So I've decided that I can't vote for Romney. I'm done pretending that there is any significant difference between the two parties. So my choices are stay home or vote for Gary Johnson.

    Now I know the official Libertarian platform is pro-"choice" which is the one caveat here. I honestly don't think that abortion will ever be illegal in this country barring a chastisement; and I certainly don't think any Republican president is going to do anything about it. We had two terms of Reagan, Bush I, two terms of Bush II and abortion remained legal all the while.

    The Libertarian Party calls for an end to all public funding for Planned Parenthood which would do more to limit abortion then anything a Republican president has done. Can one vote for such a candidate/platform?

    Anybody else here thinking of voting for Gary Johnson?
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    Offline s2srea

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    « Reply #1 on: October 16, 2012, 04:43:44 PM »
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    • I think I'm just going to write in Ron Paul... or better Gabriel Garcia Moreno.
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    Offline Traditional Guy 20

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    Are Catholics permitted to vote Libertarian?
    « Reply #2 on: October 16, 2012, 06:00:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Roland Deschain
    Anybody else here thinking of voting for Gary Johnson?


    I'm not voting at all for anyone.

    Honestly think about this for a moment: Libertarianism denies Catholic social teaching in regards to economics, social conservatism, pacifism, etc.

    Does that sound like a good political philosophy for you? They are no different than neoconservatives and liberals. All have false political philosophies.
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    Offline Marcelino

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    Are Catholics permitted to vote Libertarian?
    « Reply #3 on: October 16, 2012, 07:07:46 PM »
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    • The NRA endorsed Romney.  
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    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #4 on: October 16, 2012, 07:42:48 PM »
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    • If you're going to make a protest vote for someone who will never be elected, it had better reflect your moral views, not some abstract political theory.
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    Offline Roland Deschain

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    « Reply #5 on: October 16, 2012, 08:28:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Telesphorus
    If you're going to make a protest vote for someone who will never be elected, it had better reflect your moral views, not some abstract political theory.


    Unfortunately there is no Catholic Monarchist Party  :scratchchin:

    I'll probably just stay home.
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    Offline Roland Deschain

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    « Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 08:30:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
    Quote from: Roland Deschain
    Anybody else here thinking of voting for Gary Johnson?


    I'm not voting at all for anyone.

    Honestly think about this for a moment: Libertarianism denies Catholic social teaching in regards to economics, social conservatism, pacifism, etc.

    Does that sound like a good political philosophy for you? They are no different than neoconservatives and liberals. All have false political philosophies.


    Libertarians aren't pacifists. They are strongly against warmongering and empire building which the modern neocon Republican Party is all for.
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    « Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 08:32:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Roland Deschain
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    If you're going to make a protest vote for someone who will never be elected, it had better reflect your moral views, not some abstract political theory.


    Unfortunately there is no Catholic Monarchist Party  :scratchchin:

    I'll probably just stay home.


    It's better to vote Constitution if they are seriously pro-life in their rhetoric, because they recognize natural law and the actual law.

    However it probably won't make any difference.

    The last Constitution party candidate, Chuck Baldwin, had a great essay about "a wasted vote."

    Voting for the loser is, in some sense, a wasted vote, especially if it was a "lesser of two evils" vote.

    I think people who typically vote Republican in states like California and New York should start voting third party when the issue of the election is not in doubt.
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    Offline Traditional Guy 20

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    « Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 11:54:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Roland Deschain
    Libertarians aren't pacifists. They are strongly against warmongering and empire building which the modern neocon Republican Party is all for.


    There is nothing wrong with militarism if it is for a true nationalist goal; the neoconservatives do wars for Israel. That is the difference.

    No instead libertarians are for free trade, open borders, low taxes, anarcho-capitalism, social liberalism, etc. which is just as bad.
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    Offline Alex117

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    « Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 08:29:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Roland Deschain
    Anybody else here thinking of voting for Gary Johnson?

    I couldn't recommend that. I don't know much about the man, but a quick glace at his Wikipedia page states that he supports "same-sex marriage", abortion, and that he found the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" to be "long overdue".
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    Offline Alex117

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    « Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 08:34:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Roland Deschain
    Unfortunately there is no Catholic Monarchist Party  :scratchchin:

    I think we should really make a Catholic Monarchist Party. The party may produce somebody worth giving our vote to, for once. The only question is: who gets to be king? I vote for myself.  :dancing-banana:
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    « Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 11:45:49 PM »
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    • Mind you, this site has a predominant Libertarian flavor, still some excellent rhetoric.  
    This article in particular makes valuable points.  As Catholics, our reasoning will differ, but the conclusion is the same:  http://lewrockwell.com/barnett/barnett54.1.html
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    « Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 10:43:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Alex117
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    Unfortunately there is no Catholic Monarchist Party  :scratchchin:

    I think we should really make a Catholic Monarchist Party. The party may produce somebody worth giving our vote to, for once. The only question is: who gets to be king? I vote for myself.  :dancing-banana:


    I shall rally my knights and usurp the throne, which is rightfully mine!
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    In regards to being a responsible man, would it be interesting to learn, after six years of accuмulating all the wisdom you could, that you had it right all alon

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    « Reply #13 on: October 19, 2012, 12:30:50 PM »
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    I shall rally my knights and usurp the throne, which is rightfully mine!

    Respect my authority, you peasant!
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    « Reply #14 on: October 19, 2012, 05:16:34 PM »
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    • You dare call the bearer of Excalibur a peasant!? God shall strike thee down! And my knights shall avenge my honour!
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    In regards to being a responsible man, would it be interesting to learn, after six years of accuмulating all the wisdom you could, that you had it right all alon
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