Author Topic: Any John Paul II and Mother Teresa Fans? (Read 6222 times)

Raoul76 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2011, 11:46:29 AM »

This is not a champion among threads, is it?

tlmforme · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2011, 12:09:05 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Samurai

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Just this past month, he publically called for an end to blaming the Jєωιѕн Nation of yesteryear, today & tomorrow, for the death of Christ. Christ came into this world to DIE & he did so for the sins of all mankind.

"Hid blood be upon us and our children."

Edit: Used more popular translation.

And the whole people (meaning the Jews) said in reply, "His blood be upon us and upon our children. Matthew 27:24–25)

The Apostles & disciples present called for no such curse. Christ did not curse the Jews, they called down God's wrath upon their own nation.

Are you saying that the followers of Christ do what He, Himself, did not. His words were "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do?"

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2011, 12:49:25 PM »

Quote from: tlmforme

Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Quote from: tlmforme

Just this past month, he publically called for an end to blaming the Jєωιѕн Nation of yesteryear, today & tomorrow, for the death of Christ. Christ came into this world to DIE & he did so for the sins of all mankind.

"Hid blood be upon us and our children."

Edit: Used more popular translation.

And the whole people (meaning the Jews) said in reply, "His blood be upon us and upon our children. Matthew 27:24–25)

The Apostles & disciples present called for no such curse. Christ did not curse the Jews, they called down God's wrath upon their own nation.

Are you saying that the followers of Christ do what He, Himself, did not. His words were "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do?"

As you pointed out, the Jews cursed themselves with blood guilt, and they still do to this very day through their religion and cultural identity. Need I elaborate?

And what is it you suggest we would "do what He did not"? Im curious.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2011, 12:56:21 PM »

So the Church was wrong for 2000 years but now they finally got it right.

I think the curse against the Jews was NOT because they were responsible for His death, we all were after all; but because they who had the True Faith denied Jesus when He came. He was too poor for them, they wanted a powerful, wordly Savior. Their Messiah came and they know it, their stiff necks and pride won't allow them to face the truth. If these current VII "popes" were true, they would tell them that, as the popes have always told them in the past.

It was the Romans that actually nailed Our Lord to the Cross, therefore in my mind, I believe those words "Father forgive them for they know not what they do", were meant for them. The Jews knew what they were doing, because they were under the Law and they had the prophesies, studied them and knew them, prophesies that Jesus Christ fulfilled.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2011, 01:20:28 PM »

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Well wherever they are, could be someday you will be with them if that is your desire.

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