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Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: MyrnaM on April 02, 2011, 11:33:13 AM
I hope this thread does not turn into a debate about whether you like Glenn Beck or not.  I would like to see an honest opinion about the topic he addressed on his show.  Some of which you can see at this link.
  http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/glenn-beck/transcript/beck-iranian-regime-preparing-12th-imam

The 12th Iman and is it possible that he is the Anti-Christ?
His description (12th Iman) fits the Christian Anti-Christ according to this program.
 
We are all waiting for a Jewish Anti-Christ from the tribe of Dan, but where is the tribe of Dan?  Is it possible that a Muslim can be an ascendant from the tribe of Dan.  Just as we can all trace our roots back to Adam and Eve, so maybe this Anti-Christ person will be an ascendant from this lost tribe and the world will see him as  Muslim  or anyone;  therefore he goes unfamiliar within the world.
 
I watched the show and would appreciate an opinion of this subject.   Not even sure what I think myself, which is why I welcome your insight on this interesting subject.  


Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Jitpring on April 02, 2011, 12:03:51 PM
Go here:

http://www.audiosancto.org/categories/end-times.php
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Darcy on April 02, 2011, 12:06:29 PM
I think he is likely propazandizing for his bosses and drumming up support for war.

Only Shiites believe the 12th imam. The shiites and sunnis are not working together. Sunnis are 80% of Muslims.
One sect would not accept the other's "caliphate". At the very least it is disinformation.

I had to stop watching him because he is spreading the Jewish faith and it seems to me that he may be undergoing a process of conversion to that faith. Which is not unusual for celebrities.

He is very melodramatic and puts on a good show.

"George Soros is an atheist"  :laugh2:
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Elizabeth on April 02, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
Quote from: Jitpring
Go here:

http://www.audiosancto.org/categories/end-times.php


Excellent source for St. Robert Bellarmine's thoughts.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Darcy on April 02, 2011, 12:44:14 PM
audiosanct has an excellent sermon.
Thanks for the resource! It is much needed reinforcement of something that I learned long ago.

I wanted to add that it is not impossible that the Iranians would want to help usher in their version of endtimes by acting on their beliefs but I don't believe the sources of GB on these issues.

Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Telesphorus on April 02, 2011, 01:48:39 PM
The Muslims also believe in the Anti-Christ, that they call the Dajjal.

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According to Islamic tradition which describes this graphically, Jesus' descent will be in the midst of wars fought by the Mahdi (lit. "the rightly guided one"), known in Islamic eschatology as the redeemer of Islam, against the Antichrist (al-Masīkh ad-Dajjāl, "false messiah") and his followers.[17] Jesus will descend at the point of a white arcade, east of Damascus, dressed in yellow robes – his head anointed. He will then join the Mahdi in his war against the Antichrist. Jesus, considered in Islam as a Muslim, will abide by the Islamic teachings. Eventually, Jesus will slay the Antichrist, and then everyone from the people of the book (ahl al-kitāb, referring to Jews and Christians) will believe in him. Thus, there will be one community, that of Islam.[18]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: MyrnaM on April 02, 2011, 01:54:04 PM
Yes, thanks so much jitspring for that link, I gave you a thumbs up!

The president of Iran, Ahmadinejad  not only believes in the 12th Iman but he wants to usher him in.  

I heard him say so on a YouTube once.

I found a link a little about Ahmadinejad, this is an excerpt.

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Remarkably, the 12th Imam theory plays heavily into the world’s current concerns with Iran. The Shiite Muslim President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, is deeply committed to the Islamic Messiah, al Mahdi. There have been many through the years claiming to be the Hidden Imam but Ahmadinejad believes he is yet to come. He claims that he is to personally prepare the world for the coming Mahdi. In order to save the world, it must be in a state of chaos and subjugation. Ahmadinejad claims he was “directed by Allah to pave the way for the glorious appearance of the Mahdi”. This apocalyptic directive includes some very scary proclamations.

The 12th Imam: Why Is This Especially Important Now?
While Christians look for Jesus’ 2nd coming, the Jews await the Messiah and Muslims await the 12th Imam. However, of the three, Allah’s designated Mahdi is the only one who demands a violent path to conquer the world. Mr. Ahmadinejad, and his cabinet, say they have a ‘signed contract’ with al Mahdi in which they pledge themselves to his work. What does this work involve? In light of concerns over Iran’s nuclear capabilities, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has reportedly stated Israel should be wiped off the map. He spoke to the United Nations in September ’05. During that speech he claims to have been in an aura of light and felt a change in the atmosphere during which time no one present could blink their eyes. Iran’s PM is also said to have spoken in apocalyptic terms and seems to relish conflict with the West whom he calls the Great Satan. This is while he proclaims he must prepare the world for the coming Mahdi by way of a world totally under Muslim control. He is working hard to bring about the world-wide horrors that must be in place for their al Mahdi to bring peace.

This notion and goal, along with a violent hatred of infidels, America and Israel reminds us of Biblical prophecies of the coming anti-Christ and the pledges of millions to a deceiving False Messiah who will claim to bring peace. Could this 12th Imam Mahdi and his servant Ahmadinejad spark the last days of the coming true Savior?


http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/12th-imam.htm

I only posted this now so you can see it is not only GB.  I realize there are many that are turned off by the messenger and are blind to the message.    Not anyone here, I'm sure!  :wink:





Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Telesphorus on April 02, 2011, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: MyrnaM
I hope this thread does not turn into a debate about whether you like Glenn Beck or not.  I would like to see an honest opinion about the topic he addressed on his show.  Some of which you can see at this link.
  http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/glenn-beck/transcript/beck-iranian-regime-preparing-12th-imam

The 12th Iman and is it possible that he is the Anti-Christ?
His description (12th Iman) fits the Christian Anti-Christ according to this program.
 
We are all waiting for a Jewish Anti-Christ from the tribe of Dan, but where is the tribe of Dan?  Is it possible that a Muslim can be an ascendant from the tribe of Dan.  Just as we can all trace our roots back to Adam and Eve, so maybe this Anti-Christ person will be an ascendant from this lost tribe and the world will see him as  Muslim  or anyone;  therefore he goes unfamiliar within the world.
 
I watched the show and would appreciate an opinion of this subject.   Not even sure what I think myself, which is why I welcome your insight on this interesting subject.  


Myrna, you really shouldn't put any stock in Glenn Beck.  And you can be sure the Muslims are not the dominant power in the world today, nor are their beliefs tending towards the Antichrist system.

If anything, the fact that Islam is supplanting Catholicism as the world's most important religion is a result of the Antichrist system - Islam, because it maintains some degree of natural morality, is filling the void left by the great apostasy.

The Antichrist system is something that would resemble a judeo-masonic society.  That society even consciously adopts the symbols of revolt against God.  For example, the Tower of Babel:

(http://www.cogwriter.com/tower-of-babel-eu-poster.gif)
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Telesphorus on April 02, 2011, 02:01:40 PM
http://cch.mntzion.com/babelwhore666.html

eh, that seems to be a Protestant anti-Catholic link - but

most of the images have to do with the EU and the symbolism it adopts.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: MyrnaM on April 02, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
This is why I opened this topic, to learn and discern Telesphorus, thanks for your insight, I appreciate it.  
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Telesphorus on April 02, 2011, 02:06:07 PM
JFC Fuller was a military theorist and a student of the Qabalah:

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Why has science thus failed us? Because the wisdom of the few has been cast like pearls before the
swinish ignorance of the many. The intellectual evolution of the masses has not kept pace with the
physical evolution of the scientists. A new body has been built, a body of titanic power, yet it is still
inhabited by a mind which belongs to a far less powerful instrument. The result is a moral
disintegration - a throwing out of balance, out of focus, out of equilibrium. Chaos surrounds us,
because the mysteries have been communicated to those unworthy to receive them, and not until the
new body is endowed with a new mind will a new soul be born within it. Such an equilibrium can
alone be established through wonder - a stepping out from the finite towards the infinite, a
transmutation of Satan into God.


http://www.omsh.net/Qabalah_Wisdom_2.html
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on April 02, 2011, 04:21:06 PM
The Anti-Christ will be a Jew who is possessed by the devil. He will claim to be either a Prophet of Christ or Christ Himself. These other theories are not correct.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Darcy on April 02, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
The sermon at audiosanctus is in two parts. It is powerful.
http://www.audiosancto.org/categories/end-times.php

I am wondering if the region of magog encompasses the old Khazarian Empire. (see 'Khazaria' at wiki)
They had ancient bones to pick with the Persians.

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Khazaria had an ongoing entente with Byzantium. Serving their partner in wars against the Arabian Caliphate, Khazaria aided the Byzantine emperor Heraclius (reigned 610–641) in his campaign against the Persians....wiki


Look who's going at it today...the Khazars and the Persians.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Lybus on April 02, 2011, 04:55:30 PM
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
The Anti-Christ will be a Jew who is possessed by the devil. He will claim to be either a Prophet of Christ or Christ Himself. These other theories are not correct.


Hmm, I always imagine that the Anti-Christ would be the opposite of Christ in every way.

For instance, take His Virgin Mother. I think the anti-christ will have a mother who is extraoridinarily arrogant and self-centered. She will be the opposite of a virgin (you can probably guess what that would mean), and she would be haughty and quite rich and wordly. She will also probably hate her son (the anti-christ) and be disobedient to any kind of authority outside herself.
Maybe, the anti-christ might be a woman (if we consider female the opposite of male). That would make sense too; the modern era is pretty dominated by women (or it's heading that direction) these days, so I suppose it's possible.  But whoever it is, he/she will probably be born into a very rich family (in opposition to the nativity) with much luxury about him.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Jitpring on April 02, 2011, 05:07:07 PM
You're most welcome.

The priest you hear in most (all?) of those sermons on that page is of my parish. He's all over audiosantco.org, probably more than any other priest. In person he definitely radiates holiness.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Catholic Samurai on April 02, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
Quote from: Lybus
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
The Anti-Christ will be a Jew who is possessed by the devil. He will claim to be either a Prophet of Christ or Christ Himself. These other theories are not correct.


Hmm, I always imagine that the Anti-Christ would be the opposite of Christ in every way.

For instance, take His Virgin Mother. I think the anti-christ will have a mother who is extraoridinarily arrogant and self-centered. She will be the opposite of a virgin (you can probably guess what that would mean), and she would be haughty and quite rich and wordly. She will also probably hate her son (the anti-christ) and be disobedient to any kind of authority outside herself.
Maybe, the anti-christ might be a woman (if we consider female the opposite of male). That would make sense too; the modern era is pretty dominated by women (or it's heading that direction) these days, so I suppose it's possible.  But whoever it is, he/she will probably be born into a very rich family (in opposition to the nativity) with much luxury about him.


Well Revelation and Our Lady of LaSallette say "he", so Im pretty sure he'll be a male, and she did also say that the mother of the anti-christ will be a false virgin. Before hand she warns the superiors of convents to "be careful of whom they admit".

Whatever happens, we should ignore the bull #### coming from talk radio and focus on what our Faith and our traditions say's about the matter. Islam is going to be LONG GONE by the time the anti-christ comes, because the Great Monarch will have already crushed it forever.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Elizabeth on April 02, 2011, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: Jitpring
You're most welcome.

The priest you hear in most (all?) of those sermons on that page is of my parish. He's all over audiosantco.org, probably more than any other priest. In person he definitely radiates holiness.


You lucky!
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Jitpring on April 02, 2011, 11:13:03 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth
Quote from: Jitpring
You're most welcome.

The priest you hear in most (all?) of those sermons on that page is of my parish. He's all over audiosantco.org, probably more than any other priest. In person he definitely radiates holiness.


You lucky!


That's sure true. And the other priest at my parish also figures prominently on those pages. Yes, very lucky.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Zenith on April 03, 2011, 06:52:21 AM
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
The Anti-Christ will be a Jew who is possessed by the devil. He will claim to be either a Prophet of Christ or Christ Himself. These other theories are not correct.


Yes I think this will be more likely and has been prophesied I believe. It makes sense because the Jews rejected the true Messiah and so they will eventually find their own "messiah" who will be the anti-christ.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on April 03, 2011, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: Lybus
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
The Anti-Christ will be a Jew who is possessed by the devil. He will claim to be either a Prophet of Christ or Christ Himself. These other theories are not correct.


Hmm, I always imagine that the Anti-Christ would be the opposite of Christ in every way.

For instance, take His Virgin Mother. I think the anti-christ will have a mother who is extraoridinarily arrogant and self-centered. She will be the opposite of a virgin (you can probably guess what that would mean), and she would be haughty and quite rich and wordly. She will also probably hate her son (the anti-christ) and be disobedient to any kind of authority outside herself.
Maybe, the anti-christ might be a woman (if we consider female the opposite of male). That would make sense too; the modern era is pretty dominated by women (or it's heading that direction) these days, so I suppose it's possible.  But whoever it is, he/she will probably be born into a very rich family (in opposition to the nativity) with much luxury about him.


He will be the opposite of Christ, he will only claim to be either a Prophet or Christ Himself. The smart people will be able to see right through him.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Jitpring on April 03, 2011, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
The smart people will be able to see right through him.


I disagree. I think the "smart" people  - the sophisticates, the cognoscenti - will be among his most devoted followers. The simple, faithful people will be the ones who see through him.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: MyrnaM on April 03, 2011, 04:16:48 PM
I think the smart proud people will be swayed and will not recognize the Anti-Christ.  Knowledge has nothing to do with this, it will be the meek, the humble and grace filled that will recognize the Anti-Christ.  

I remember Fr. Denis would say, when Anti-Christ comes he won't be wearing 666 stamped on his forehead.  

I also don't remember reading in the Bible that he will be Jewish per se  but he will be  descended from the tribe of Dan.  That could almost mean anyone, since the tribe of Dan is a lost tribe and who knows by this time who can trace their roots through that tribe.  

Yes, I remember reading that his mother is to be a virgin, could be maybe this person will be a clone.  lol!  (No soul)
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Jitpring on April 03, 2011, 04:24:10 PM
If wise is what's actually meant by smart, then I can agree with Spiritus.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: MyrnaM on April 03, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
Oh, I just found this interesting tid bit!

http://watch.pair.com/dan.html
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Zenith on April 03, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
In Cardinal Manning's book, The Pope and the Anti-Christ, he says that the Fathers including St. Irenaeus, St. Jerome, St. Hippolytus, St. Ambrose, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Ephrem, St. Gregory Nazianzen, St. Gregory of Nyssa, St. John Damascene, St. Augustine, St. Gregory the Great, and St. Robert Bellarmine believed that the anti-christ will be of the jewish race and from the tribe of Dan.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on April 03, 2011, 05:58:54 PM
Yeah, wise is what I meant by smart. A person who is truely wise, spirtually wise, will be able to recognize him as the Anti-Christ.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: MyrnaM on April 03, 2011, 06:40:56 PM
Quote from: Zenith
In Cardinal Manning's book, The Pope and the Anti-Christ, he says that the Fathers including St. Irenaeus, St. Jerome, St. Hippolytus, St. Ambrose, St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Ephrem, St. Gregory Nazianzen, St. Gregory of Nyssa, St. John Damascene, St. Augustine, St. Gregory the Great, and St. Robert Bellarmine believed that the anti-christ will be of the jewish race and from the tribe of Dan.


I don't doubt you or anyone, but I was just wondering!
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Jitpring on April 03, 2011, 08:35:18 PM
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
Yeah, wise is what I meant by smart. A person who is truely wise, spirtually wise, will be able to recognize him as the Anti-Christ.


I have to agree with you there! Well put.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: CathMomof7 on April 04, 2011, 05:00:07 PM
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
The Anti-Christ will be a Jew who is possessed by the devil. He will claim to be either a Prophet of Christ or Christ Himself. These other theories are not correct.


SS,
I am reading a book now titled History of AntiChrist by Rev. P. Huchede.  

Here is some of what it says:

"It is certain that Antichrist will be a man because the Scriptures call him in express terms the "man of sin..."  It is certain that he will be of the Jewish race....Like Our Lord, he will be brought up in obscurity; he will lead a hidden life until the time comes when he shall begin his public career....According to tradition, he will be educated by magicians who will imbue his mind and heart from his very childhood with their doctrine and wicked principles...

He shall never do a good act.  His satanic pride shall be especially conspicuous...He will conceal his crimes and pass as the most virtuous of men...He will be loaded with honors...He will possess a natural, vast, and powerful genius, an irresistable eloquence...He will know by heart all the Sacred Scriptures and posses a perfect knowledge of the arts."

He could come from the tribe of Dan, but that would be really difficult to prove genealogically speaking.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Cristian on April 04, 2011, 08:50:57 PM
Quote from: CathMomof7
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
The Anti-Christ will be a Jew who is possessed by the devil. He will claim to be either a Prophet of Christ or Christ Himself. These other theories are not correct.


SS,
I am reading a book now titled History of AntiChrist by Rev. P. Huchede.  

Here is some of what it says:

"It is certain that Antichrist will be a man because the Scriptures call him in express terms the "man of sin..."  It is certain that he will be of the Jewish race....Like Our Lord, he will be brought up in obscurity; he will lead a hidden life until the time comes when he shall begin his public career....According to tradition, he will be educated by magicians who will imbue his mind and heart from his very childhood with their doctrine and wicked principles...

He shall never do a good act.  His satanic pride shall be especially conspicuous...He will conceal his crimes and pass as the most virtuous of men...He will be loaded with honors...He will possess a natural, vast, and powerful genius, an irresistable eloquence...He will know by heart all the Sacred Scriptures and posses a perfect knowledge of the arts."

He could come from the tribe of Dan, but that would be really difficult to prove genealogically speaking.


Interesting. Just 2 things: when the author says "he shall never do a good act", that means a supernatural one right? And also with regard to the tribe he will come from I believe he will say he comes from the tribe of Juda in order to be descendent of David, otherwise no Jew will follow him, IMO.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on April 04, 2011, 09:00:16 PM
CathMomof7, that sounds about right. He will indeed be a man, he will just be possessed by Satan. To answer your question, Christian, the Anti-Christ will actually perform a so-called "miracle" in order to trick people into believing who he claims he is. People possessed by the devil can are able to do such out-of-ordinary things. I've heard stories of the devil having a flashing yellow cross appear to someone.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Catholic Samurai on April 04, 2011, 09:11:40 PM
If your satan himself, your going to be able to do more than just a few "miracles, since your the most powerful devil out of the billions!
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Catholic Samurai on April 04, 2011, 09:12:25 PM
Quote from: MyrnaM


Yes, I remember reading that his mother is to be a virgin, could be maybe this person will be a clone.  lol!  (No soul)


A FALSE virgin.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Catholic Samurai on April 04, 2011, 09:16:40 PM
Quote from: CathMomof7


He could come from the tribe of Dan, but that would be really difficult to prove genealogically speaking.


If you were part of an old hierarchy it wouldn't be difficult at all to trace your lineage back that far. Considering the Pharisees and Mystery religions of old are alive and well today, Im sure their leaders or priesthoods have maintained a line of succession.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: stevusmagnus on April 05, 2011, 12:36:45 AM
Any possibility the anti-christ was Mohammed?

Thought I would throw that out there.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Jitpring on April 05, 2011, 01:18:51 AM
I don't know if anyone has pointed to this yet, but here's Malachi Martin on the Antichrist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lwmeE3DyjM

He talks about it here too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TqtySnOAqM&feature=related

And somewhere in this series, I think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFayaISQVEs

Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Cristian on April 05, 2011, 09:35:56 AM
Quote from: stevusmagnus
Any possibility the anti-christ was Mohammed?



No at all.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: MyrnaM on April 05, 2011, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: CathMomof7
Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
The Anti-Christ will be a Jew who is possessed by the devil. He will claim to be either a Prophet of Christ or Christ Himself. These other theories are not correct.


SS,
I am reading a book now titled History of AntiChrist by Rev. P. Huchede.  

Here is some of what it says:

"It is certain that Antichrist will be a man because the Scriptures call him in express terms the "man of sin..."  It is certain that he will be of the Jewish race....Like Our Lord, he will be brought up in obscurity; he will lead a hidden life until the time comes when he shall begin his public career....According to tradition, he will be educated by magicians who will imbue his mind and heart from his very childhood with their doctrine and wicked principles...

He shall never do a good act.  His satanic pride shall be especially conspicuous...He will conceal his crimes and pass as the most virtuous of men...He will be loaded with honors...He will possess a natural, vast, and powerful genius, an irresistable eloquence...He will know by heart all the Sacred Scriptures and posses a perfect knowledge of the arts."

He could come from the tribe of Dan, but that would be really difficult to prove genealogically speaking.


I read that booklet many years ago, and what I remember most, I read that the Anti-Christ would come about somhow with the symbol of the Chi Rho, pictured below:

We better hope the next "pope" is not Jewish.  I understand the Vatican already flies their flag.   Well now, that would fit, since the Jews, will recognize the Anti-Christ as their own.  

Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: CathMomof7 on April 05, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
Myrna,
Here's what it says about the symbol.

"Antichrist will furthermore make all men, great and small, rich and poor, freeman and bondman, bear a sign on their right arm or on their forehead.  What this sign shall be time alone will reveal.  Yet there are some commentators of Holy Writ, who, according to a special revelation, pretend to say that it shall be formed out of the Greek letters X and P interlaced like this figure:

 (I tried to draw it here but not having luck)

it's the baptismal cross superimposed over the chi rho.  (it has eight points with a "p" at the top

Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: ServusSpiritusSancti on April 05, 2011, 02:24:03 PM
I have also read where the Anti-Christ would remain in the temple for much of his time after he publicly appears.
Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: MyrnaM on April 05, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
Quote from: CathMomof7
Myrna,
Here's what it says about the symbol.

"Antichrist will furthermore make all men, great and small, rich and poor, freeman and bondman, bear a sign on their right arm or on their forehead.  What this sign shall be time alone will reveal.  Yet there are some commentators of Holy Writ, who, according to a special revelation, pretend to say that it shall be formed out of the Greek letters X and P interlaced like this figure:

 (I tried to draw it here but not having luck)

it's the baptismal cross superimposed over the chi rho.  (it has eight points with a "p" at the top



Thanks, I tried to find my booklet, but couldn't, I probably lent it out.  You know how that goes.  

Title: Anti-Christ revealed ?????
Post by: Raoul76 on April 05, 2011, 02:56:44 PM
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"It is certain that Antichrist will be a man because the Scriptures call him in express terms the "man of sin..."  It is certain that he will be of the Jewish race....Like Our Lord, he will be brought up in obscurity; he will lead a hidden life until the time comes when he shall begin his public career....According to tradition, he will be educated by magicians who will imbue his mind and heart from his very childhood with their doctrine and wicked principles...

He shall never do a good act.  His satanic pride shall be especially conspicuous...He will conceal his crimes and pass as the most virtuous of men...He will be loaded with honors...He will possess a natural, vast, and powerful genius, an irresistable eloquence...He will know by heart all the Sacred Scriptures and posses a perfect knowledge of the arts."


No one would believe me if I told them, but I think I've had certain experiences that gave me insight into the Anti-Christ.

I will just add some things to this prophecy, which I think is pretty accurate.

Anti-Christ will sit not just in the place of God, in terms of imitating Christ, but in the place of the Church.  He will convince the world the Church is dead, except for himself and his followers, and he will use the failings of the clergy to make this believable ( many of the clergy at that point, like today, will be immoral or borderline-heretics and the truth will be hard to find all in one place ).    

He will essentially set himself up as THE Church in the form of a man -- he will make people believe that they should actually leave their chapels and follow him instead, using, once again, the failings of the clergy to make this convincing.
That is where the sign comes in, as a way of showing obedience to him.  He will kill those who disagree with him even in the slightest and will cause great fear in everyone.  People who try to get his approval and kiss up to him even will be randomly massacred, it will be like being in the Mafia.  He will become more arbitrary and more erratic as time goes on.

As has been said by many, his life will mirror episodes in the life of Christ.  For instance, he will be stripped and "humiliated" like Christ was, but instead of being cruficied afterwards, he will rise up more powerful.  He and the false prophets who surround him will arrange it that he is stripped and humiliated precisely for this purpose.  It will be aesthetic, artistic -- he will be like a concept-artist version of Christ who will trump up for himself some of the things that happened to the real Christ by Divine Providence.  Like a David Bowie kind of showman but who genuinely presents himself as a Messiah.  

I will also predict that he will disdain the false prophets who surround him.  They will build him up, but he will think he's doing it all himself and doesn't need them.  He will think he is totally one of a kind and unique, not realizing that he is part of a vast diabolical team.  

He will be way younger and prettier and have infinitely more charisma and charm than JPII, let alone Ratzinger.  He will look like a saint and will have such magnetic and fascinating personal presence that it will be mistaken for holiness.  He will be the ultimate movie star, basically.  He will be as charming as a lamb but will switch into terrifying dragon-like anger.