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Online Giovanni Berto

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Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2021, 04:06:20 AM »
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  • No matter what you think of him as a person, he is a very good actor. In my opinion at least.

    I think that we should take the "innocent until proven guilty" approach. As fishy as it all sounds, it could be an accident. Even if he did shoot people in the heat of the moment, I think we have all been hot headed one moment or another, right?

    That being said, I had always thought that real guns were always used in modern movies. I imagined that they just used "projectile-less" bullets. That does not seem dangerous, except at point-blank.


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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #16 on: October 24, 2021, 05:10:46 AM »
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  • A "prop gun" wouldn't have the tolerances to handle the pressure created in the chamber from a live round.  Why isn't this being treated like the murder it is?
    This is from Reuters

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    Some prop guns are non-firing facsimile weapons, but many are real guns, loaded with blank rounds instead of bullets.
    So what is it? Was it a real gun or a prop gun? If it was a real gun he pointed, having loaded it with real ammo that sounds like a premeditated murder. If it was a prop gun this would not have happened. Look at the double think the Reuters article wants you to accept: That prop guns aren't real, but some prop guns can fire bullets but never are loaded with non-blanks. Wrap your mind around this cover-up happening.
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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #17 on: October 24, 2021, 06:31:36 AM »
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  • Why is that, anyhow?
    Everyone had better keep an eye on Billy Ray Cyrus! He already launched the "Miley" weapon on humanity!
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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #18 on: October 24, 2021, 09:17:23 AM »
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  • No matter what you think of him as a person, he is a very good actor. In my opinion at least.

    I think that we should take the "innocent until proven guilty" approach. As fishy as it all sounds, it could be an accident. Even if he did shoot people in the heat of the moment, I think we have all been hot headed one moment or another, right?

    That being said, I had always thought that real guns were always used in modern movies. I imagined that they just used "projectile-less" bullets. That does not seem dangerous, except at point-blank.
    He IS a very good actor. (What does that have to do with it?)
    And... he is innocent until proven guilty, at least that is the law as it is written, but people like Alex Baldwin are never subject to the actual law, and the spin machine starts early.( with him,  from the very beginning). The initial narrative needs to be countered and challenged in the court of public opinion to at least get at some semblance of truth. Otherwise it is just another steamroller job from start to finish.

    PS- I don't think being hotheaded mitigates a shooting /killing in any way

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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #19 on: October 24, 2021, 09:23:42 AM »
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  • A "prop gun" wouldn't have the tolerances to handle the pressure created in the chamber from a live round.  Why isn't this being treated like the murder it is?
    This is from Reuters
    So what is it? Was it a real gun or a prop gun? If it was a real gun he pointed, having loaded it with real ammo that sounds like a premeditated murder. If it was a prop gun this would not have happened. Look at the double think the Reuters article wants you to accept: That prop guns aren't real, but some prop guns can fire bullets but never are loaded with non-blanks. Wrap your mind around this cover-up happening.
    If, as it's being reported, there was one shot that passed through the deceased lady and hit the director in the shoulder, that would be a powerful "blank". I'm not a gun expert but it doesn't seem possible


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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #20 on: October 24, 2021, 09:56:00 AM »
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  • I was thinking about the three name deal....it seems like white shooters and murderers get the third name- blacks and foreigners don't.

    I think sticking the third name in makes the perp seem more backwoods, country, and "white" (yeah- like Billy Ray, Jimmy Bob) -and a bit more sinister, or at least that's how it appears.

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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #22 on: October 24, 2021, 10:29:36 AM »
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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #23 on: October 24, 2021, 10:57:04 AM »
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  • If, as it's being reported, there was one shot that passed through the deceased lady and hit the director in the shoulder, that would be a powerful "blank". I'm not a gun expert but it doesn't seem possible
    If we're supposed to believe this was a plastic wad (ala what helps group balls in a shotgun shell) there is no way it could possibly penetrate 2 people. 
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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #24 on: October 24, 2021, 11:02:02 AM »
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  • He must be a criminal, they used his first middle and last name.

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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #25 on: October 24, 2021, 01:39:44 PM »
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  • he is innocent until proven guilty, at least that is the law as it is written

    Not true. The law is: The State has to treat him as if he was innocent until ...

    That's a whole different question than the question whether he indeed is innocent or he isn't.
     
    He even may be innocent after the State found him guilty.
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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #26 on: October 24, 2021, 03:32:21 PM »
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  • He IS a very good actor. (What does that have to do with it?)
    And... he is innocent until proven guilty, at least that is the law as it is written, but people like Alex Baldwin are never subject to the actual law, and the spin machine starts early.( with him,  from the very beginning). The initial narrative needs to be countered and challenged in the court of public opinion to at least get at some semblance of truth. Otherwise it is just another steamroller job from start to finish.

    PS- I don't think being hotheaded mitigates a shooting /killing in any way

    I stand corrected. HIs ability as an actor has nothing to do with the topic of the discussion.

    As far as I understand, rich and influential people are only considered guilty when even richer and more influential people withdraw their support for them. So, if he actually and intentionally killed the woman, he probably won't go to jail, unless someone profits from it.
    That's how the world works, isn't it? Our Lord's trial was 2000 years ago, and the same ideas apply.

    Acting hotheaded is "antecedent passion", isn't it? As far as I know, both Moral Theology
     and Secular Laws punish less severely passionate crimes. So I believe that acting hotheaded lessens the culpability of a crime.

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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #27 on: October 24, 2021, 06:59:26 PM »
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  • Giovani

    "Even if he did shoot people in the heat of the moment, I think we have all been hot headed one moment or another, right?"

    I know crimes of passion do play into the saliency of  an act legally, but your statement above seemed to blow the whole issue off using his volitility as a justification- so that's what I responded to.

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    Re: Alexander Rae Baldwin lll shoots two- kills one
    « Reply #28 on: October 24, 2021, 07:32:32 PM »
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