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Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2019, 09:03:44 PM »
Governor Kay Ivey signed the bill! God bless her!

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Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2019, 09:34:19 PM »
While I'm happy to see this, they invariably contradict themselves:

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Under the new law, doctors in the state face felony jail time up to 99 years if convicted. But a woman would not be held criminally liable for having an abortion.

If it is in fact murder, as you claim, why are the women who have abortions exempt from criminal liability?  That's nonsense.  I'm glad they finally dropped the rape and incest crap though.  Either the baby is a human life or it is not.  Be consistent.


Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2019, 08:29:14 AM »
USAToday is running an article "25 men voted to ban abortion in Alabama. Do they reflect the rest of America?" It has some of the typical PR, with misleading references to vague polls and surveys.

But they're also trying to demonize this law by saying the votes came from 25 white men. That anyone would think that would fly says a lot about how far anti-male propaganda has developed.

These Alabama representatives were elected by the people of Alabama. They represent Alabama. If the people of Alabama don't like what they did, they are capable of electing different people. And the governor of Alabama, who could have vetoed, is a woman.

If men voting on this was wrong, then what does USAToday say about the 9 men of SCOTUS who decided Roe v. Wade? If men voting in Alabama is wrong, then was it not also for SCOTUS?

Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2019, 09:10:27 AM »
"Under the new law, doctors in the state face felony jail time up to 99 years if convicted. But a woman would not be held criminally liable for having an abortion."

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While I'm happy to see this, they invariably contradict themselves:

If it is in fact murder, as you claim, why are the women who have abortions exempt from criminal liability?  That's nonsense.  I'm glad they finally dropped the rape and incest crap though.  Either the baby is a human life or it is not.  Be consistent.

All those who force a woman to have an abortion -- her school nurse, her doctor, her friends, her boyfriend, her lover, her husband, her mother, her mother-in-law, etc. -- should also be held criminally liable. Studies have shown that many girls and women are forced into an abortion. Those who are forced into an abortion should not be held criminally liable. Instead, those who conspired to kill her and/or her unborn baby should be prosecuted.

Unscrupulous men or boys who groom women or girls to have sex, who rape them, and then who force them into an abortion should also be held criminally liable.

Some women are even punched in the stomach to kill the baby or are secretly given an abortifacent, drug, poison, or herbal treatment that will cause an abortion. This is premeditated murder.

Bottom line: Anyone who engages in any criminal activity or conspiracy to kill pregnant ladies, unborn babies, or newborns should be exposed, prosecuted and convicted.

Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2019, 09:13:36 AM »
Surveys can be heavily dependent on the phrasing and knowledge assumed in the question. For example:

"Should schools in America teach Arabic Numerals as part of their curriculum?"
Results: Yes - 29%, No - 56%  No opinion - 15%

(Snopes says this happened.)