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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2019, 01:39:12 PM »
However, there have been studies done showing that women and girls are often forced or convinced to have an abortion by their mothers, dads, schoolmates, boyfriends, lovers, doctors, nurses, teachers, etc.

Convinced/pressured?  Certainly.

Forced?  Very rarely.

You put forced and convinced into the same category?

So if someone were to tell me:  "Hey, you're fired from your job if you don't kill this [innocent] person."  I go ahead and do it.  Does this mean I should not be held criminally liable for murder since I was pressured into doing it?  Of course not.  Now, this pressure might lead to an extenuation of the punishment, but in principle I must be convicted as guilty.  It's one thing to lighten the punishment but another (an affront to principle) to say that there's no criminal liability whatsoever.  That's a caving on the PRINCIPLE.  But extenuation is already built into the legal system, so for instance, if I was under pressure, I may not be convicted of first degree murder, but of second degree, or even manslaughter.  But in any case SOME CRIME has been committed, and it's garbage that the women are not "criminally liable" at all.  Not unless they almost literally have a gun to their heads.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2019, 01:42:31 PM »
Quit making excuses for those women. Nobody put them in handcuffs and drove them to an abortion center, and put a gun to their head, and forced them to allow a doctor to butcher out the unborn baby.


They went to the baby killers on their own power and by their own free will.

Less than 1% might have their food or drink spiked with an abortion pill against their knowledge, which would excuse them from the sin of murder because they didn't freely choose to kill their unborn baby.  

THIS ^

She is feeding the very same feminist propaganda that the Pro-Abortion people use, the heart-tugging sympathy for the poor female victim.  Oh, both the child and the mother are victims of abortion (even the Pro Lifters resort to this garbage).

These women want "equality" under the law, and yet for them this means superiority and preferential treatment.  So, are you equal to men, or are you an inferior creature that suddenly has no free will apart from the directions of men in your life ... when it suits you?


Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2019, 04:53:00 PM »
She is feeding the very same feminist propaganda that the Pro-Abortion people use, the heart-tugging sympathy for the poor female victim.  Oh, both the child and the mother are victims of abortion (even the Pro Lifters resort to this garbage).

These women want "equality" under the law, and yet for them this means superiority and preferential treatment.  So, are you equal to men, or are you an inferior creature that suddenly has no free will apart from the directions of men in your life ... when it suits you?
I am not pro-abortion, nor have I ever been pro-choice. I have been pro-life all my life, and have been a pro-life volunteer.

I have helped women avoid the abortuary -- those killing fields run by Planned Parenthood. Have you?

As a result of helping these women, I have witnessed their godless friends, parents, and others who have been forcing them into having an abortion. It is gut wrenching. Often, with very limited funds or no funds at all, these abandoned pregnant women and girls must find another place to live where people will support their decision to keep their baby.

Yes, it takes two to tangle. In this godless society where few worship and pray to God, virtue is rarely practiced, and our schools, libraries, and bookstores have become training grounds for immorality because of the salacious books that promote abortion and the sex industry and sex trafficking of both boys and girls.

We must speak up to protect these children who are often groomed from an early age to become sex slaves.

Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2019, 07:10:27 PM »
It doesn’t go far enough. 99 years in prison is too lenient, these should be capital offenses.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Alabama Effectively Outlaws Abortion
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2019, 10:10:03 PM »
I am not pro-abortion, nor have I ever been pro-choice.

Please actually read and understand what I posted.  You've completely misunderstood and misrepresented two of my posts now on this thread.