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Title: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 11, 2024, 05:36:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QasQEUytsrQ
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Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: SimpleMan on October 11, 2024, 06:45:17 PM
How in the world did this ad get clearance to run on, of all things, The View?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it did, but either something slipped through the cracks, or TPTB thought it was so outrageous, that it would actually bring discredit to the pro-life movement (which it doesn't).
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: josefamenendez on October 11, 2024, 07:02:52 PM
That ad was fantastic. Too bad there is no viable pro-life candidate to vote for.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Soubirous on October 11, 2024, 07:22:24 PM
Vimeo link here to get around the YT required sign-in: https://vimeo.com/1017359246 (https://vimeo.com/1017359246)

Lots more similar ones on Vimeo autoplay, this one's titled "Black People Run! Kamala Horror": https://vimeo.com/1014861438 (https://vimeo.com/1014861438)
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 11, 2024, 09:54:26 PM
How in the world did this ad get clearance to run on, of all things, The View?
FCC law (https://www.fcc.gov/media/policy/statutes-and-rules-candidate-appearances-advertising) (from 1934) requires stations air federal candidates' ads uncensored. Terry is on the ballot as the Constitution Party presidential candidate in >10 states, so he can run political ads in all 50 states. They have to air them, else they lose their FCC license.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Simeon on October 12, 2024, 05:29:19 AM
How in the world did this ad get clearance to run on, of all things, The View?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it did, but either something slipped through the cracks, or TPTB thought it was so outrageous, that it would actually bring discredit to the pro-life movement (which it doesn't).

The Angels are "powers of the air."

Maybe they "aired" it. 

No evil power on earth can resist them. 

We should continually pray to our Lady to send the Angelic Hierarchy into the battle. 

Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: SimpleMan on October 12, 2024, 09:30:51 AM
FCC law (https://www.fcc.gov/media/policy/statutes-and-rules-candidate-appearances-advertising) (from 1934) requires stations air federal candidates' ads uncensored. Terry is on the ballot as the Constitution Party presidential candidate in >10 states, so he can run political ads in all 50 states. They have to air them, else they lose their FCC license.

I realize that, but I was questioning more the placement of the ad, viz. on a militantly feminist, pro-choice, top-rated morning show aimed primarily at women.  I don't know to what extent advertisers can dictate the program on which their spots will appear.

And keep in mind, pace Trump's recent appeals to revoke the "license" of CBS, it is individual TV stations, not networks, that are licensed.  The major networks own a handful of stations in larger markets, but usually stations are owned by firms (Tegna, Sinclair, and so on, as well as some stations owned individually) that are independent of the networks, and those stations simply carry the programs of those networks with which they are affiliated.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 12, 2024, 04:29:57 PM
I don't know to what extent advertisers can dictate the program on which their spots will appear.
Buyers determine that. The rates vary, but they can't charge one candidate more than another to run on the same show (equal access).
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 12, 2024, 04:30:59 PM
Trump's recent appeals to revoke the "license" of CBS
Maybe he was referring to their flagship station based in New York City, WCBS (https://www.stationindex.com/tv/callsign/WCBS).
Title: "Freedom of speech is an Ameri­can birthright." —Cdl. Pacelli (1936)
Post by: Geremia on October 12, 2024, 05:08:59 PM
Quote from: Cdl. Pacelli, recalling his 1936 visit to 🇺🇸
Freedom of speech is an Ameri­can birthright.
(Hatch & Walshe (https://search.worldcat.org/title/891722559) 122)

Interestingly, 1936 is the year of the FCC's Communications Act (https://www.fcc.gov/media/policy/statutes-and-rules-candidate-appearances-advertising) regulating political TV advertising.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: SimpleMan on October 12, 2024, 07:58:28 PM
Buyers determine that. The rates vary, but they can't charge one candidate more than another to run on the same show (equal access).

I understand that as well.  My point here was whether an advertiser can demand placement on a specific show, paying the rate for that show, and whether the network can tell them "no, we won't sell you a spot during that show, but we'll sell it to you on another one".  If they are allowed to do that, they haven't refused to run an ad (in this case for a controversial political ad), they've just refused to air it on that particular show.  Are they within their rights to do that?  I honestly don't know.

Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: SimpleMan on October 12, 2024, 08:02:01 PM
Maybe he was referring to their flagship station based in New York City, WCBS (https://www.stationindex.com/tv/callsign/WCBS).

That could well be, but my first impulse is to say that Trump doesn't know that networks, as networks, aren't licensed.  The major networks own stations in large markets (such as NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, and sometimes smaller markets --- ABC picked up some smaller stations when they acquired a bunch of properties some time back).
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 13, 2024, 04:46:20 PM
My point here was whether an advertiser can demand placement on a specific show, paying the rate for that show, and whether the network can tell them "no, we won't sell you a spot during that show, but we'll sell it to you on another one".  If they are allowed to do that, they haven't refused to run an ad (in this case for a controversial political ad), they've just refused to air it on that particular show.  Are they within their rights to do that?
No, they can't refuse to run political ads on some shows, and all candidates must have equal opportunity.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: SimpleMan on October 13, 2024, 10:50:24 PM
No, they can't refuse to run political ads on some shows, and all candidates must have equal opportunity.

I'm assuming, then, that Randall Terry went to ABC, said "I want to run this ad on The View, and I have the money here in hand to pay for it".

Good for him.  Makes me wish I had the money to fund this kind of thing, to blanket the airwaves with such information.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 13, 2024, 10:56:15 PM
Makes me wish I had the money to fund this kind of thing
It's not just money but most importantly his being a presidential candidate.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Godefroy on October 14, 2024, 04:25:09 AM
Abortion is just the logical conclusion of a contraceptive mentality. Could we not move the Overton Window in our direction by having a commercial not against abortion but against contraception? After the initial shock, there would be a public debate on family, demographics, the reconnection of the reproductive act to ...... reproduction. Imagine ?
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: SimpleMan on October 14, 2024, 10:03:06 AM
It's not just money but most importantly his being a presidential candidate.

Let me clarify.  I meant that if I had the money of, let's say, a Jeff Bezos or an Elon Musk, I'd fund such a campaign.  If broadcasters can't turn down presidential candidates (not sure if the same rules apply to PACs not formally affiliated with a candidate), then if I'm understanding the situation correctly. someone who can throw down the money can buy all the ads they like, and the broadcaster has to run them.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Soubirous on October 14, 2024, 10:09:07 AM
Abortion is just the logical conclusion of a contraceptive mentality. Could we not move the Overton Window in our direction by having a commercial not against abortion but against contraception? After the initial shock, there would be a public debate on family, demographics, the reconnection of the reproductive act to ...... reproduction. Imagine ?

This. And contraception is just the logical conclusion of a Do-as-thou-wilt mentality re everything, not just family life and sins against the 6th and the 9th.

Those dominoes need to start falling. For that to happen, people need to stop nervously trying to prop them up, muh freedoms and all that.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 14, 2024, 05:03:45 PM
AP reported on it Friday: ‘The View’ abortion ad signals wider effort to use an FCC regulation to spread a message (https://apnews.com/article/view-television-advertising-abortion-fcc-0d8c5944405d13bdccf9cd17a4891e8b)
Title: Terry's "Hostage of X" ad
Post by: Geremia on October 19, 2024, 04:10:55 PM
Terry's "Hostage of X" / "Elon" ad: https://vimeo.com/1020707418
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 19, 2024, 04:16:00 PM
Abortion is just the logical conclusion of a contraceptive mentality.
Contraception is how eugenicist Planned Barrenhood founder Margaret Sanger habituated America to abortion.
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: SimpleMan on October 20, 2024, 07:03:09 AM
Abortion is just the logical conclusion of a contraceptive mentality. Could we not move the Overton Window in our direction by having a commercial not against abortion but against contraception? After the initial shock, there would be a public debate on family, demographics, the reconnection of the reproductive act to ...... reproduction. Imagine ?

All contraceptives (and even sterilization short of castration) can fail, and what then?

That's why TPTB want abortion choice.

Think about it --- the contraceptive fails, and then you have one of two scenarios.  Either the couple (or even the woman by herself, if the baby daddy isn't in the picture for whatever reason) welcomes an "oops baby", and makes a big-to-do about it, or she/they find out that a pregnancy has occurred, they get hold of some pills or a willing doctor, and nobody ever knows.  Those are the people who, even though they may not be outspoken abortion advocates, act funny whenever the topic of unwanted pregnancy comes up, and when election time rolls around, vote for pro-choice candidates because, well, it's self-justifying.

As a kind of aside, ever notice how many women nowadays look alike, and have a certain physical appearance, full bosoms, kind of moon-like faces, thick middles, thick legs and calves, corpulent posteriors, and that thing with either the long, straight, glossy hair or a "Karen" bob?  It's as though they're stamped out of cookie cutters.  Aside from the hair (which is purely a style choice), I have to wonder if this is the effect of using birth control pills and, essentially, tricking their bodies into thinking they're continuously pregnant, instead of simply too much of a fondness for biscuits and gravy.

Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Valentine on October 20, 2024, 07:24:37 AM
All contraceptives (and even sterilization short of castration) can fail, and what then?

That's why TPTB want abortion choice.

Think about it --- the contraceptive fails, and then you have one of two scenarios.  Either the couple (or even the woman by herself, if the baby daddy isn't in the picture for whatever reason) welcomes an "oops baby", and makes a big-to-do about it, or she/they find out that a pregnancy has occurred, they get hold of some pills or a willing doctor, and nobody ever knows.  Those are the people who, even though they may not be outspoken abortion advocates, act funny whenever the topic of unwanted pregnancy comes up, and when election time rolls around, vote for pro-choice candidates because, well, it's self-justifying.

As a kind of aside, ever notice how many women nowadays look alike, and have a certain physical appearance, full bosoms, kind of moon-like faces, thick middles, thick legs and calves, corpulent posteriors, and that thing with either the long, straight, glossy hair or a "Karen" bob?  It's as though they're stamped out of cookie cutters.  Aside from the hair (which is purely a style choice), I have to wonder if this is the effect of using birth control pills and, essentially, tricking their bodies into thinking they're continuously pregnant, instead of simply too much of a fondness for biscuits and gravy.
Regarding the last paragraph of your post, I too have observed a significant shift in the average American's overall appearance. It's as if any aesthetic consideration has been completely abandoned. The women, at least in my area of the country, all have tattoos, dress in yoga pants..or sometimes even pajamas to go to the grocery store. Shocking levels of obesity are ubiquitous across all ages, ethnic groups, genders. There is a general slovenliness and lack of grace to people in their movements, manner of speech. I think this started with texting. Words, sentences were abbreviated into what I call Tarzan speak in order to rapidly text. This carried over into their verbal utterances. The men here look completely interchangeable: baseball cap always affixed to their head, scraggly beard, shirt/jacket emblazoned with their favorite ball team logo, and ugly tattoos. They listen to garbage music, eat garbage food, watch garbage movies and we wonder how these barbarians can be so callous and indifferent to wanton infanticide. Sometimes I will watch an old movie from the 40's and 50's just to see the decor and fashions. It's not just a different era, it's a different universe than todays America.
  
Title: Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
Post by: Geremia on October 20, 2024, 07:13:17 PM
I have to wonder if this is the effect of using birth control pills and, essentially, tricking their bodies into thinking they're continuously pregnant
I've wondered about its effects on the female voice (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0892199702000966). (Analogous to the effect effeminacy has on the male voice (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0892199710002122).)