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Offline Geremia

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ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
« on: October 11, 2024, 05:36:20 PM »
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #1 on: October 11, 2024, 06:45:17 PM »
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    • How in the world did this ad get clearance to run on, of all things, The View?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it did, but either something slipped through the cracks, or TPTB thought it was so outrageous, that it would actually bring discredit to the pro-life movement (which it doesn't).
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #2 on: October 11, 2024, 07:02:52 PM »
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    • That ad was fantastic. Too bad there is no viable pro-life candidate to vote for.
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #3 on: October 11, 2024, 07:22:24 PM »
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    • Vimeo link here to get around the YT required sign-in: 

    Lots more similar ones on Vimeo autoplay, this one's titled "Black People Run! Kamala Horror": 
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #4 on: October 11, 2024, 09:54:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on October 11, 2024, 06:45:17 PM
    How in the world did this ad get clearance to run on, of all things, The View?
    FCC law (from 1934) requires stations air federal candidates' ads uncensored. Terry is on the ballot as the Constitution Party presidential candidate in >10 states, so he can run political ads in all 50 states. They have to air them, else they lose their FCC license.
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #5 on: October 12, 2024, 05:29:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on October 11, 2024, 06:45:17 PM
    How in the world did this ad get clearance to run on, of all things, The View?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it did, but either something slipped through the cracks, or TPTB thought it was so outrageous, that it would actually bring discredit to the pro-life movement (which it doesn't).

    The Angels are "powers of the air."

    Maybe they "aired" it. 

    No evil power on earth can resist them. 

    We should continually pray to our Lady to send the Angelic Hierarchy into the battle. 

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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #6 on: October 12, 2024, 09:30:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on October 11, 2024, 09:54:26 PM
    FCC law (from 1934) requires stations air federal candidates' ads uncensored. Terry is on the ballot as the Constitution Party presidential candidate in >10 states, so he can run political ads in all 50 states. They have to air them, else they lose their FCC license.

    I realize that, but I was questioning more the placement of the ad, viz. on a militantly feminist, pro-choice, top-rated morning show aimed primarily at women.  I don't know to what extent advertisers can dictate the program on which their spots will appear.

    And keep in mind, pace Trump's recent appeals to revoke the "license" of CBS, it is individual TV stations, not networks, that are licensed.  The major networks own a handful of stations in larger markets, but usually stations are owned by firms (Tegna, Sinclair, and so on, as well as some stations owned individually) that are independent of the networks, and those stations simply carry the programs of those networks with which they are affiliated.
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #7 on: October 12, 2024, 04:29:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on October 12, 2024, 09:30:51 AM
    I don't know to what extent advertisers can dictate the program on which their spots will appear.
    Buyers determine that. The rates vary, but they can't charge one candidate more than another to run on the same show (equal access).
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #8 on: October 12, 2024, 04:30:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on October 12, 2024, 09:30:51 AM
    Trump's recent appeals to revoke the "license" of CBS
    Maybe he was referring to their flagship station based in New York City, WCBS.
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    "Freedom of speech is an Ameri­can birthright." —Cdl. Pacelli (1936)
    « Reply #9 on: October 12, 2024, 05:08:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cdl. Pacelli, recalling his 1936 visit to 🇺🇸
    Freedom of speech is an Ameri­can birthright.
    (Hatch & Walshe 122)

    Interestingly, 1936 is the year of the FCC's Communications Act regulating political TV advertising.
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #10 on: October 12, 2024, 07:58:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on October 12, 2024, 04:29:57 PM
    Buyers determine that. The rates vary, but they can't charge one candidate more than another to run on the same show (equal access).

    I understand that as well.  My point here was whether an advertiser can demand placement on a specific show, paying the rate for that show, and whether the network can tell them "no, we won't sell you a spot during that show, but we'll sell it to you on another one".  If they are allowed to do that, they haven't refused to run an ad (in this case for a controversial political ad), they've just refused to air it on that particular show.  Are they within their rights to do that?  I honestly don't know.

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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #11 on: October 12, 2024, 08:02:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on October 12, 2024, 04:30:59 PM
    Maybe he was referring to their flagship station based in New York City, WCBS.

    That could well be, but my first impulse is to say that Trump doesn't know that networks, as networks, aren't licensed.  The major networks own stations in large markets (such as NYC, Chicago, Los Angeles, and sometimes smaller markets --- ABC picked up some smaller stations when they acquired a bunch of properties some time back).
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #12 on: October 13, 2024, 04:46:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on October 12, 2024, 07:58:28 PM
    My point here was whether an advertiser can demand placement on a specific show, paying the rate for that show, and whether the network can tell them "no, we won't sell you a spot during that show, but we'll sell it to you on another one".  If they are allowed to do that, they haven't refused to run an ad (in this case for a controversial political ad), they've just refused to air it on that particular show.  Are they within their rights to do that?
    No, they can't refuse to run political ads on some shows, and all candidates must have equal opportunity.
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #13 on: October 13, 2024, 10:50:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia on October 13, 2024, 04:46:20 PM
    No, they can't refuse to run political ads on some shows, and all candidates must have equal opportunity.

    I'm assuming, then, that Randall Terry went to ABC, said "I want to run this ad on The View, and I have the money here in hand to pay for it".

    Good for him.  Makes me wish I had the money to fund this kind of thing, to blanket the airwaves with such information.
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    Re: ABC airs pro-life ad showing aborted babies during The View
    « Reply #14 on: October 13, 2024, 10:56:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on October 13, 2024, 10:50:24 PM
    Makes me wish I had the money to fund this kind of thing
    It's not just money but most importantly his being a presidential candidate.
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