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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: OxenandAves on October 28, 2024, 09:04:55 PM
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God’s judgment is inevitable when a society endorses grave evil. In 1902, the city of Saint-Pierre in Martinique, set to hold elections, was obliterated by Mount Pelée’s eruption in minutes, killing 40,000 people. Those candidates weren’t even pro-abortion, but Freemasons. If such punishment struck for tolerating Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, how much more should we expect when even traditional Catholics support leaders who endorse abortion?
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Hi, Hewkonian. How are you doing?
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Hi, Hewkonian. How are you doing?
*Mr. Hewkonian
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Hey now! I am Hewkonian!
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God’s judgment is inevitable when a society endorses grave evil. In 1902, the city of Saint-Pierre in Martinique, set to hold elections, was obliterated by Mount Pelée’s eruption in minutes, killing 40,000 people. Those candidates weren’t even pro-abortion, but Freemasons. If such punishment struck for tolerating Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, how much more should we expect when even traditional Catholics support leaders who endorse abortion?
What would you say of those who allowed it to get to such a level in the first place? There were no doubt previous elections with better choices, but they lose because they aren't perfect and thus get rejected and then slowly but surely the choices become worse and worse and because you don't vote your irrelevant to the outcome.
Furthermore, what would you say of those who spurn someone who overturned Roe v Wade and reached their hand out to Pro-Lifers but was slapped away in favour of the radially pro-abortion alternative?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vw9g59kJSQ
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What would you say of those who allowed it to get to such a level in the first place? There were no doubt previous elections with better choices, but they lose because they aren't perfect and thus get rejected and then slowly but surely the choices become worse and worse and because you don't vote your irrelevant to the outcome.
Furthermore, what would you say of those who spurn someone who overturned Roe v Wade and reached their hand out to Pro-Lifers but was slapped away in favour of the radially pro-abortion alternative?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vw9g59kJSQ
So you provided RFK a Pro-Abortionist to defend Donald Trump, also a Pro-Abortionist to somehow help your argument?
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So you provided RFK a Pro-Abortionist to defend Donald Trump, also a Pro-Abortionist to somehow help your argument?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdvPqplnOLo
Moving in the right direction is moving in the right direction, and to spurn that especially in light of the alternative is madness... we should certainly pray for them.
"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
God Bless
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdvPqplnOLo
You just posted a video of him supporting abortion. Their is no difference between “early term” abortion and late term “abortion” they are both abortion, they are both child sacrifice.
Life begins at conception.
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Life begins at conception.
And Arianism is a heresy... therefore reject and condemn Constantine the Great, Edict of Milan etc and ignore his massive importance especially in light of the alternative of Maxentius, Licinius and the Diocletian Persecutions?... There goes the early Church.
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
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And Arianism is a heresy... therefore reject and condemn Constantine the Great, Edict of Milan etc and ignore his massive importance especially in light of the alternative of Maxentius, Licinius and the Diocletian Persecutions?... There goes the early Church.
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
You are a liberal “Catholic.” This is gobbledy gook.
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You are a liberal “Catholic.” This is gobbledy gook.
…and a "Divine Mercy" psycho.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdvPqplnOLo
Moving in the right direction is moving in the right direction, and to spurn that especially in light of the alternative is madness... we should certainly pray for them.
"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
God Bless
Compromising and endorsing leaders that put forward policies promoting sins against nature is not moving in the right direction!
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Hi, Hewkonian. How are you doing?
Ditto.
How’s it going, Hewkonian?
If you’re going to quote Fr. Hewko’s Sunday sermon, please give Fr. the credit!
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Ditto.
How’s it going, Hewkonian?
If you’re going to quote Fr. Hewko’s Sunday sermon, please give Fr. the credit!
It looks like he now has multiple active accounts.
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It looks like he now has multiple active accounts.
I smell a 🐁
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So you provided RFK a Pro-Abortionist to defend Donald Trump, also a Pro-Abortionist to somehow help your argument?
In case you are not aware of the how the electoral process works, a coaltion of those who disagree on many important issues but who agree that the MUCH WORSE EVIL must be stopped is usually the only way to actually win an election.
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Compromising and endorsing leaders that put forward policies promoting sins against nature is not moving in the right direction!
What you are actually saying is that it's best to sit home and not vote, thereby allowing the Communist and the CCP pederast win the election.
Hope it's worth it to you to pat yourself on the back and feel morally superior.
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What you are actually saying is that it's best to sit home and not vote, thereby allowing the Communist and the CCP pederast win the election.
Hope it's worth it to you to pat yourself on the back and feel morally superior.
Yet another dishonest argument. Nobody is making this case to "feel morally superior". I don't like being attacked for my position, whether it's this or some of the other unpopular ones I hold. Most of us are attempting to discern God's truth so that we can do His will and please Him ... and because we love the truth, and, in my case, because error causes me pain. This is a completely unwarranted attack on people by judging their intentions in the internal forum as being motivated by pride. It's also a fallacious pseudo-argument, claiming that the only reason we're taking this position is being motivated by some "pride" or Pharisaical "feeling" of "moral superiority". Hogwash. It's quite the opposite, where it's YOU who are clearly emoting. You keep hurling nonsense like this out there, whereas I have very clearly articulated my argument based on Catholic principles of moral theology. You have never even come CLOSE to even attempting this. You simply emote, hurl accusations like the above, or accusations that people are lying when citing well-known and easily provable negatives about Trump, etc.
You may even have noticed that when one poster stated that he was voting for Trump under his application of "double effect," I did not argue much with him, just mildly expressing a simple disagreement.
You went so far as to slanderously assert that hαɾɾιs is MY candidate ... exhibiting again the fact that your mind is crippled by false dichotomy, which is precisely what the controllers like to do with their Hegelian dialectic. If you're against Trump, that means you're FOR hαɾɾιs. Ridiculous. How about that I'm against both of them and I refuse to participate in the election of either one.
Let's say that I am captured by an evil terrorist who tells me that I must murder an innocent person and that if I don't do it, he's going to set off a nuclear bomb and kill millions. I actually saw this scenario on a TV show, "24". So, a Catholic cannot murder that innocent person. Period. But, based on your absurd reasoning, you would accuse this Catholic man who REFUSED to commit the evil of being guilty of murdering those millions who then died of the nuclear bomb, right? You're saying absolutely the same thing, that if we do not commit an evil, we're responsible for what happens by NOT committing the evil. Similarly, let's say I were a Catholic doctor who refused to perform an abortion even while this poor young girl, impregnated by an incestuous rape, begged me to do it. Shortly thereafter, the young girl, so distraught, commits ѕυιcιdє. By your logic, you'd accuse me of being guilty of her murder. What you're claiming here is the same thing. IF an action is evil, then we cannot do it, even if it is to prevent some greater evil, and by not doing it, no, we are NOT responsible for the evil that results. If I refuse to murder that innocent man, I am NOT guilty of the murder of millions, and if I refuse to perform the abortion, I am NOT guilty of the girls' ѕυιcιdє. If I do kill the innocent man, then I AM guilty of that, or if I perform the abortion, I AM guilty of that.
This is not very difficult. You cannot do evil even to prevent greater evil, and in refusing to commit said evil, one is NOT guilty of the greater evil that results. Period. End of Story.
So your only argument can be that voting for Trump is not evil (and explain why). If it is evil, then it doesn't matter if he's running against Satan himself. You can't vote for him. It's that simple.
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By your logic, you'd accuse me of being guilty of her murder. What you're claiming here is the same thing. IF an action is evil, then we cannot do it, even if it is to prevent some greater evil, and by not doing it, no, we are NOT responsible for the evil that results. If I refuse to murder that innocent man, I am NOT guilty of the murder of millions, and if I refuse to perform the abortion, I am NOT guilty of the girls' ѕυιcιdє. If I do kill the innocent man, then I AM guilty of that, or if I perform the abortion, I AM guilty of that.
This is not very difficult. You cannot do evil even to prevent greater evil, and in refusing to commit said evil, one is NOT guilty of the greater evil that results. Period. End of Story.
So your only argument can be that voting for Trump is not evil (and explain why). If it is evil, then it doesn't matter if he's running against Satan himself. You can't vote for him. It's that simple.
But, but he is going to drain the swamp! Nukes! Economy! Communists and stuff!
No doubt these responses are coming down the pike shortly.
If Trump is not THE Antichrist, he is at least a very close precursor to him.
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If Trump is not THE Antichrist, he is at least a very close precursor to him.
And yet, it was Biden/hαɾɾιs who instituted the jab mandates with vaccine passports and threats of buying and selling which is the closest thing to the mark of the beast I have ever seen -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHhVz4-kGds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGG5g665X3g
Victoria, Australia will ‘LOCK OUT’ unvaccinated people from its economy - https://www.rt.com/news/534078-australia-victoria-vaccinated-economy/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k28wpO-Qt5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMWcBN-9h3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q25JxmkKors
Furthermore, it's also in gross violation of the Nuremburg Code and thus crimes against humanity which makes Biden/hαɾɾιs both Hitler and antichrist... so to level such accusations at Trump is extremely stupid, ignorant and madness!
Tedros from the WHO wants to go for round two -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esMvD3UhDKs
So not only are you WRONG! you are also a FOOL! NONE of the people I quoted here are voting for Trump and they ALL thank you greatly for your folly.
Honestly, if you spurn this opportunity with Trump, RFK Jr and many more... then you will deserve everything you've got coming to you, unfortunately we will all suffer if that happens (God forbid). I don't know how to get through to people like you anymore.
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vc9zPldmws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tJ5rt6CCAQ
So yes, you absolutely deserve judgement if you spurn this grace... absolutely you deserve what's coming to you if you spurn this opportunity with Trump.
"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vc9zPldmws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tJ5rt6CCAQ
So yes, you absolutely deserve judgement if you spurn this grace... absolutely you deserve what's coming to you if you spurn this opportunity with Trump.
"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for
Trump is not the savior! Do you honestly think that it is the will of God to endorse a pro-sodomite, lgbtq.., pro- Israel puppet? And if we don't vote for Trump, the lesser evil, God will punish us? Do you really believe this?
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And if we don't vote for Trump, the lesser evil, God will punish us? Do you really believe this?
ABSOLUTELY!
You are wrong, you have been deceived or are intentionally deceiving, divide and conquer... I have done my research and I am NOT the one deceiving people here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MhXqGl7oVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_zkiIK_vQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1lugbpMKDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA306aNtvmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlN8bbs_vQw
If you spurn this once in a lifetime opportunity, you will not be given another one, then judgement will rightly fall on you and you cannot wash your hands of it either for no choice is still a choice leading to those direct results. As I said, Tedros from the WHO is ready for round two among MUCH more and those people most certainly are not voting for Trump, especially with RFK Jr on his team and many more.
Now is your only chance... that's a fact and if you spurn it you will deserve judgement, unfortunately we will all suffer as a result of that.
"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
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ABSOLUTELY!
You are wrong, you have been deceived or are intentionally deceiving, divide and conquer... I have done my research and I am NOT the one deceiving people here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MhXqGl7oVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_zkiIK_vQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1lugbpMKDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA306aNtvmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlN8bbs_vQw
If you spurn this once in a lifetime opportunity, you will not be given another one, then judgement will rightly fall on you and you cannot wash your hands of it either for no choice is still a choice leading to those direct results. As I said, Tedros from the WHO is ready for round two among MUCH more and those people most certainly are not voting for Trump, especially with RFK Jr on his team and many more.
Now is your only chance... that's a fact and if you spurn it you will deserve judgement, unfortunately we will all suffer as a result of that.
"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
You need to retire from the internet for awhile.
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You need to retire from the internet for awhile.
I want to, but I will not do so until you start using your head and waking up... there is way too much at stake here. Please watch those very short clips and read my posts and think seriously about what you are saying and doing.
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
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I want to, but I will not do so until you start using your head and waking up... there is way too much at stake here. Please watch those very short clips and read my posts and think seriously about what you are saying and doing.
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
A country is not worth saving if it comprises on the life of unborn children and it deserves the destruction that will ensue from offending God.
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A country is not worth saving if it comprises on the life of unborn children and it deserves the destruction that will ensue from offending God.
When Constantinople fell to the Ottomans, some wealthy merchants were brought before the Sultan, who asked "Why was this money not given for the defence of the city?" to which they replied "Because we were saving it for you." Then the Sultan had them beheaded.
You are a part of the Country whether you like it or not and no choice is still a choice sharing culpablity for the situation. This is also why we are taught to forgive and have mercy, because bitterness and vengeance blinds you to the point where you are actively willing your own destruction... madness!
"For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
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ABSOLUTELY!
You are wrong, you have been deceived or are intentionally deceiving, divide and conquer... I have done my research and I am NOT the one deceiving people here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MhXqGl7oVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_zkiIK_vQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1lugbpMKDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA306aNtvmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlN8bbs_vQw
If you spurn this once in a lifetime opportunity, you will not be given another one, then judgement will rightly fall on you and you cannot wash your hands of it either for no choice is still a choice leading to those direct results. As I said, Tedros from the WHO is ready for round two among MUCH more and those people most certainly are not voting for Trump, especially with RFK Jr on his team and many more.
Now is your only chance... that's a fact and if you spurn it you will deserve judgement, unfortunately we will all suffer as a result of that.
"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
My question was, Do you honestly believe it is the will of God that we endorse a candidate that supports sodomy, abortion and Israel? Yes or no