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  • 35 Sources showing the COVID19 / corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud.
     by Jason Hommel   11th March 2020   


    Updated 3-14-20. Updated again 3-17-20. By Jason Hommel



    1. Test kits don’t work. So they can’t know how many have it. How can we trust the media to truthfully report cases, when the test kits can’t identify cases, and suffer both from false positives and false negatives? The FDA page, and the CDC page, both list problems of false positives and false negatives for the test kits in use.

    I’m going to say that again. It’s important. They don’t know who has coronavirus COVID19. The test kits suffer from false positives and false negatives. The media report cases as if it’s 100% certain. But they can’t know. It’s a guess. At best, an educated guess.

    Within 24 hours of when I reported the problems with the test kits, the Whitehouse released statements on 3-11 saying they “have enough test kits”. But that does not address the concern of accuracy.


    2. Here is a scientific article, saying test kits don’t work.

    [Potential false-positive rate among the ‘asymptomatic infected individuals’ in close contacts of COVID-19 patients].

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/32133832/

    “CONCLUSIONS: In the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, nearly half or even more of the ‘asymptomatic infected individuals’ reported in the active nucleic acid test screening might be false positives.”

    I found a scientific report saying the “asymptomatic carriers” might really just be “false positives”. https://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/citation/32133832/[Potential_false_positive_rate_among_the_’asymptomatic_infected_individuals’_in_close_contacts_of_COVID_19_patients]_

    2A: Why might the test kits not work and give false positives? Even if the test kits could detect the virus, or viral DNA, the fact is that 10% of the human genome IS viral DNA. It could be detecting us. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161128151050.htm “Nearly 10 percent of the human genome is made of bits of virus DNA. For the most part, this viral DNA is not harmful. In some cases, scientists are finding, it actually has a beneficial impact.”

    3. In China, the numbers of people who “have it” followed a perfect curve, which is statistically impossible, meaning, they “invented” the data on who has it.

    The curve of cases in China are “too perfect”. It means it was all a simulation. A hoax. Fraud.

    “For context, Goodman says a “really good” r-squared, in terms of public health data, would be a 0.7. “Anything like 0.99,” she said, “would make me think that someone is simulating data. It would mean you already know what is going to happen.”” https://www.barrons.com/articles/chinas-economic-data-have-always-raised-questions-its-coronavirus-numbers-do-too-51581622840

    4. Italy just announced that only 2 out of 100 people died “from coronavirus” with no other co morbidity problems (even if we could trust the test kits, which we can not).

    Rome, 13 Mar 19:12 – (Agenzia Nova) – There may be only two people who died from coronavirus in Italy, who did not present other pathologies. This is what emerges from the medical records examined so far by the Higher Institute of Health, according to what was reported by the President of the Institute, Silvio Brusaferro, during the press conference held today at the Civil Protection in Rome. “Positive deceased patients have an average of over 80 years – 80.3 to be exact – and are essentially predominantly male,” said Brusaferro. “Women are 25.8 percent. The average age of the deceased is significantly higher than the other positive ones. The age groups over 70, with a peak between 80 and 89 years. The majority of these people are carriers of chronic diseases. Only two people were not presently carriers of diseases “, but even in these two cases, the examination of the files is not concluded and therefore, causes of death different from Covid-19 could emerge. The president of the ISS has specified that “little more than a hundred medical records” have so far come from hospitals throughout Italy.

    These are the first minimum detailed data provided so far by the Civil Protection on the causes of death of coronavirus patients. At present, in fact, the authorities are unable to distinguish those who died from the virus, from those who, on the other hand, are communicated daily to the public, but who were mostly carriers of other serious diseases and who, therefore, would not have died from Covid-19. In response to a question from “Agenzia Nova”, in fact, Brusaferro was unable to indicate the exact number of coronavirus deaths. However, the professor clarified that, according to the data analyzed, the great majority of the victims “had serious pathologies and in some cases the onset of an infection of the respiratory tract can lead more easily to death. To clarify this point , and provide real data, “as we acquire the folders we will go further. However, the populations most at risk are fragile, carriers of multiple diseases “. (Rin) © Agenzia Nova – Reproduction reserved

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    5. Here is a report from “thedoctorwithin.com” saying similar things; they can’t know who has it, the test kits don’t work, and they are not even using them, etc. Excerpts, then link:

    “RE-CATEGORIZATION?

    “No more serious than the flu? How about this: What if all these new cases really are nothing but the flu? Just the normal seasonal flu. Why not? There’s really no solid evidence to support otherwise.

    “But wait. The false science gets much worse than that. There’s no evidence the PCR test is even being used at all!

    “The answer is: there are simply no standard criteria. for counting cases.

    “WHAT IF THERE’S NO CORONAVIRUS EPIDEMIC AT ALL: EXPERIMENT

    “Hold on here. What if there is no epidemic, no new COVID disease at all, and no legitimate testing procedure for counting the “infected“? Let’s just make that hypothesis, and then try to disprove it. Source:

        Newsletter March 2020

    6. Another site describing problems with the test kits:

    https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/blog/coronavirus-hoax-jan-2020

    “PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.

    The problem is the test is known not to work.

    It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.

    Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.

    The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.”

    7. Op-Ed: Does the 2019 Coronavirus Exist?

    https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/does-2019-coronavirus-exist

    “This strange new disease, officially named COVID-19, has none of its own symptoms. ”

    The greenmedinfo article gets into great detail with the problems of the test.

    “The Test is Not Binary

    Tests for infections are usually reported as positive or negative (sometimes ‘reactive’ and ‘unreactive’. One of the reasons for this is that, in many cases, multiple tests are required, and it is common to conclude that someone is infected with some negative tests and that someone is uninfected with some positive tests. The results of a complex multi-test algorithm are also usually reported as positive or negative, but interpreted by doctors and patients as infected or uninfected. “

    It appears to me that the test is LESS RELIABLE THAN A COIN TOSS!

    8. The CDC was just totally discredited, again, as a cesspool of lying corruption, as they were unable to come up with any relevant studies to prove the statement that “vaccines do not cause autism”. Vaccines are not “off topic”, the entire point of a “pandemic with no cure” is to push a mandatory vaccine. The CDC only listed 20 studies in response to ICAN’s freedom of information act request and lawsuit, and the studies did not cover the vast majority of the vaccines on the schedule, but only one.
    https://revealingfraud.com/2020/03/health/vaccines-may-indeed-cause-autism-cdc-fraud-exposed/ This article is “fact checked” now at facebook as misleading. The fact checkers listed 2 very poor studies that the CDC did not show, which were very poorly done.

    9. It was predicted/scheduled in advance.

    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

    This event was in October, 2019. The first reporting of unidentified COVID19 cases to the WHO was Dec 31, 2019

    10. This was so embarrassing to them, they had to come out with a statement to try to explain it away.

    http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/newsroom/center-news/2020-01-24-Statement-of-Clarification-Event201.html False flags typically have a “scheduled event” at the same time. Sandy Hook did. 9/11 did. And on and on.

    11. This is a video of a mock news report claiming that vaccines are the only cure for a mock illness. From the same Johns Hopkins as point number 1 above.

    12. The CDC started hiring quarantine supervisors, IN ADVANCE. Note the job posting date, 11-15-19. Coronavirus started in Dec. 31, 2019.
    https://jobs.cdc.gov/job/dallas/public-health-advisor-quarantine-program/250/14136286 Public Health Advisor (Quarantine Program)
    Job ID HHS-CDC-D3-20-10640010
    Date posted 11/15/2019
    Location Dallas, Texas, El Paso, Texas, Houston, Texas, Seattle, Washington, Anchorage, Alaska, Los Angeles, California, San Diego, California, San Francisco, California, Miami, Florida, Atlanta, Georgia, Honolulu, Hawaii, Chicago, Illinois, Boston, Massachusetts, Detroit, Michigan, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Newark, New Jersey, New York, New York, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, San Juan
    Department: Department of Health And Human Services
    Agency: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    Job Announcement Number: HHS-CDC-D3-20-10640010
    SALARY RANGE: $51440.0 to $93077.0/Per Year
    OPEN PERIOD: 2019-11-15 to 2020-05-15
    SERIES & GRADE: GS–9/11

    13. The death toll is barely over 3000, but the media coverage is non stop 24/7 unlike anything I’ve ever seen in my lifetime. It is the greatest media campaign to sell toilet paper there ever has been. But that’s not the goal. The goal is fear porn, increased government control, and ultimately, mandatory vaccination. The media also over hypes “mass gun deaths” of which there are typically only 50-100 per year, so much so, that Joe Biden said half the nation has died from gun deaths. No Joe, not even abortion kills so many, it’s only 60 million from abortions. The media also over hypes measles deaths, of which there was maybe 1 in the last ten years. The media ignores deaths from vaccines.

    14. Even if we could trust the counts (but the test kits don’t work) it shows the disease is less deadly than the flu. Source: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/exclusive-evidence-shows-director-general-of-world-health-organization-severely-overstated-the-fatality-rate-of-the-coronavirus-leading-to-the-greatest-global-panic-in-history/

    15. Facebook “fact checkers” are out in force like people have never seen: The online media giants are desperate to stop anyone from pointing out “the Emperor has no clothes”. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8101101/Boris-Johnson-summons-tech-giants-Downing-Street-coronavirus-meeting-fake-news.html#reader-comments

    16. I shared information from 4 sources saying that the coronavirus usually shows up as the common cold, including the CDC and the WHO, but I was “factchecked” at facebook as saying this was “misleading”. How can exact links and exact quotes from the top two “authorities” be misleading? Here are the CDC and WHO sources:

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus

    “Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans. “

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/general-information.html

    “Common human coronaviruses, including types 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1, usually cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold.”

    And a third source: https://www.compoundchem.com/2020/01/22/colds/

    17. The CDC can’t even get the top ten list of what Americans die from accurate. They are missing 6 items in their top ten list, how is that possible, unless they are corrupt and inept beyond reason? https://revealingfraud.com/2019/08/health/cdcs-leading-causes-of-death-list-is-fraud/

    18. MIT Scientist says it’s all just a big media fraud. He was quoted by Sean Hannity as he “may be true”. https://www.mediamatters.org/coronavirus-covid-19/sean-hannity-it-may-be-true-deep-state-using-coronavirus-manipulate-markets

    19. Deaths caused by the medical establishment range from 400,000 to 788,000 to 1 million per year. This is what should be reported, but it never is. https://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/usamed/deaths.htm The media is in bed with the medical establishment and the government. 70% of media ad revenues are from Pharma. https://www.periscopegroup.com/news/breaking-news/corruption-before-consumers-copy-copy

    20. The media lied about the Trump/Russia collusion hoax, there was none. The media lied about the Trump impeachment story, there was no crime there. The media lies and covers up for Joe Biden’s Ukraine corruption. The media lies about the measles. The media lies about vaccines. The media lies about autism. When did the media stop lying, apologize, and suddenly gain any credibility? Never. So why believe them now, when it would be impossible for them to count cases of COVID19, even if they wanted to, because the test kits are inaccurate?

    21. The media and government lies about viral cures. They say nothing is proven to work against COVID19, a new virus, therefore all claims must be considered fraud. No. The standard is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty of fraud until people prove an antiviral works against a newly identified virus. Wait a second. Society has had hundreds of antiviral substances going back 100 years, why would none of them suddenly not work against a new virus? Because their goal is mandatory vaccination. If the media were truthful, and if they actually cared about humanity surviving a real virus, they would be promoting all of the antiviral substances that have been proven to have antiviral properties. Such as this list here: https://revealingfraud.com/2020/03/health/anti-viral-foods-herbs-vitamins-minerals/

    22. Not only are they hiding (not reporting) real antiviral cures, but such cures are being actively blocked and censored on facebook, such as IV vitamin C. This one finally got through, and they finally stopped censoring it, because the government of Shanghi finally endorsed it here: “Official Statement From China For Recommended Treatment of COVID-19″ ” The doses are ranging from approximately 4,000 to 16,000 mgs for an adult which is administered by an IV. Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD who is President of the Japanese College of Intravenous Therapy states that this specific method of administration is very important because vitamin C’s effects are at least 10 times more powerful when taken by IV rather than orally, and that “Intravenous vitamin C is a safe, effective, and broad-spectrum antiviral.”” https://worldhealth.net/news/official-statement-china-recommended-treatment-covid-19/ And although this became “official,” it’s still not making headlines on national mainstream news such as Fox, ABC, NBC, or CBS. Because their narrative is “no cure, we must find a vaccine”.

    23. The FDA is actively seeking to shut down claims that things that work against viruses, or specifically, COVID19 virus. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-update-fda-and-ftc-warn-seven-companies-selling-fraudulent-products-claim-treat-or The FDA should be sued for violating the first amendment, for violating due process of innocent until proven guilty, and for attempted mass murder for attempting to hide anti viral cures.

    24. None of the numbers being claimed add up or are consistent enough to evaluate. One minute we are told COVID19 is more deadly than the flu. Another minute, it’s less deadly than the normal flu.

    25. The media has hyped a flu pandemic nearly every 2 years for the last 20 years, and none of them materialized.

    26. Actual flu deaths range from 12,000 in 2018 to 62,000 in 2019 in America alone. In context, 4000 deaths worldwide from COVID19 is nothing out of the ordinary. Trump points this out, and is ignored. We don’t yet know if they are just counting normal flu deaths yet. (Actually, they are, because the test kits are not being used, and don’t work).

    27. It was reported that COVID19 hits Chinese people more, because they have more of a certain protein. And the Chinese suffer from worse nutrition, and more pollution, which, of course, hurts the lungs. And it might have been 5G exposure, or these could even be vaccination deaths, we don’t really yet know. But somehow they “know” that America will suffer from 500,000 to 1.5 million deaths? Well, maybe if they roll out mandatory vaccination.

    28. It is reported that healthy people do not suffer from COVID19. But the media wants us to think there is absolutely nothing we can do in order to become healthy, which is totally absurd. But “getting healthy” conflicts with the “no cure, we must develop a vaccine” false narrative.

    29. People are in panic over the draconian, tyrannical government shut downs of the economy. That is a real threat, not a fake virus.

    30. If the coronavirus media hype were rational, and proportional, shouldn’t there have been 20 times the media hype that we are seeing now, back last year over the 62,000 dead in the USA from the flu?

    31. Why did the media hype on COVID19 begin just as the Impeachment failed? Why were there so many voices saying “We should tank the economy to hurt Trump’s chances of re-election?”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/09/maher_im_hoping_for_a_crashing_economy_so_we_can_get_rid_of_trump_bring_on_the_recession.html

    This virus hype is nothing more than an attempt to crash the American economy in a desperate attempt by the deep state, who is guilty of treason, to avoid their own coming death penalties. They are extremely desperate and wicked. This is nothing more than “Trump derangement syndrome” by the media/deep state.

    32. My current favorite viral cures are, in order, Vitamin C, iodine, colloidal silver, and oregano oil. I used diluted oregano oil on my foot once to get rid of a wart, because warts are viral.

    33. The media are now slandering conservatives who are not taking the coronavirus panic seriously as “dangerous” because we are not “taking precautions”.

    ““This sort of media spin poses a clear and present danger to public health,” said Charlie Sykes, a longtime conservative host and author who published a book, “How the Right Lost Its Mind,” in 2018. “If you have people out there who feel all of this is overblown, and feel the need to act out their lack of concern by not taking precautions, it could be exceptionally dangerous.”

    Such slander. I just listed precautions. Vitamin C. Iodine. Colloidal Silver. Oregano oil. It is the media who is slandering the precautions, saying there is nothing you can do, no cure, and other such lies.

    34. The WHO, the world health organization, is a vaccine front, and totally discredited. The WHO says it’s a pandemic now. This is the same group who said in 2015 that nitrites in hot dogs will give us an 18% increase in colon cancer. But spinach has 3000 times more nitrities. A nitrite is a Nitrogen and Oxygen. 99% of our atmosphere is Nitrogen and Oxygen. The WHO has zero credibility. They are a vaccine organization. The entire fraud over blaming hot dogs for cancer is that fraudulent idea that they could “correlate” the USA’s increased cancer rates from vaccines to something else the USA is known for, such as increased meat consumption. But their science is not even science; it’s all just lies to hide the problems with vaccines. And it’s not even plausible lies. Spinach. The atmosphere. They World Health Organization is filled with lying idiot scammers.

    35. Democrats are more likely to believe the media hype than Republicans. “A Reuters poll last week found that roughly four in 10 Democrats believed the coronavirus was an imminent threat — but only two in 10 Republicans felt the same way.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-polarization/americans-divided-on-party-lines-over-risk-from-coronavirus-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN20T2O3

    36. At the present time, it seems China has limited the death toll and the outbreak; they headed back to work in Mid February, 3 weeks ago now. Therefore, this is not a runaway outbreak. It might have been limited due to nutritional causes, local 5G exposures, local pollution that ended with the shutdown, who knows. We don’t know.

    37. What about Tom Hanks and other celebrities, like the wife of Canadian Prime Minister? Both are ultra liberal elites. It is statistically remote that out of 1600 cases in the USA, out of 330 million people, that Tom tested positive. Besides, the tests don’t work. It is more likely that Tom is a media shill and is acting.

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     Thank you very much for all your prayers and encouragement during the last days. I am now in the 15th day of my illness and slowly on the way to recovery. The virus strikes much harder than expected and hits all age groups. Now we have to learn to deal with it, which means to understand that God demands sacrifices from us. He demands more from us this Lent than we are used to. We have to be very reserved, renounce many things and repent for all the bad things in the world and especially for all the bad things that have happened in the Church. God in His abundant providence has imposed these restrictions upon us and we must see them as a cross to bear. Especially for all those who are fatally ill with the virus. For all those families that are torn apart, for all driven children, for the destruction of our homelands. For all this suffering we must now sacrifice our freedom, our prosperity and our accustomed lives. Let us do this together as believers. We can rest assured that God will never abandon us.
     
     As soon as I am healthy again, I will make a video and tell you how this virus feels and what it does to you.


    When you get PERSONAL correspondence from people hit by the virus and/or know people personally being hit by the virus, I'm inclined to believe it's NOT just a hoax.
    If it was just reporting from the MSM, you could be skeptical.
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    ROME (Reuters) - The death toll from an outbreak of coronavirus in Italy has grown by 602 to 6,078, the head of the Civil Protection Agency said on Monday, an 11% increase but the smallest rise in numerical terms since Thursday, suggesting a clear downward trend.
    On Sunday, 651 people died. That followed 793 on Saturday and 627 on Friday
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    ROME (Reuters) - The death toll from an outbreak of coronavirus in Italy has grown by 602 to 6,078, the head of the Civil Protection Agency said on Monday, an 11% increase but the smallest rise in numerical terms since Thursday, suggesting a clear downward trend.
    On Sunday, 651 people died. That followed 793 on Saturday and 627 on Friday
    The OP says : "Rome, 13 Mar 19:12 – (Agenzia Nova) – There may be only two people who died from coronavirus in Italy, who did not present other pathologies. This is what emerges from the medical records examined so far by the Higher Institute of Health, according to what was reported by the President of the Institute, Silvio Brusaferro, during the press conference held today at the Civil Protection in Rome. “Positive deceased patients have an average of over 80 years – 80.3 to be exact – and are essentially predominantly male,” said Brusaferro. “Women are 25.8 percent. The average age of the deceased is significantly higher than the other positive ones. The age groups over 70, with a peak between 80 and 89 years. The majority of these people are carriers of chronic diseases. Only two people were not presently carriers of diseases “, but even in these two cases, the examination of the files is not concluded and therefore, causes of death different from Covid-19 could emerge. The president of the ISS has specified that “little more than a hundred medical records” have so far come from hospitals throughout Italy.
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    When you get PERSONAL correspondence from people hit by the virus and/or know people personally being hit by the virus, I'm inclined to believe it's NOT just a hoax.
    If it was just reporting from the MSM, you could be skeptical.
    I have a cousin that died in March 2018. He was perfectly healthy, caught a bad cold, was home sick for 4 days, went to the bathroom and never came out, he died.  I know a lady that was in her 80's, I noticed that she would go to mass with a really bad cough, with bad chest congestion, she died like 3 weeks later. These things happen all the time and the deaths are listed as death by natural causes.

    Now anyone gets the sniffles and it is Corona virus. How do they know it is Corona virus, when the tests do not work? The doctor from Rome says they only have two cases that may be Corona virus and that the rest of the people that died were chronically sick from other pathogens.
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    ROME (Reuters) - The death toll from an outbreak of coronavirus in Italy has grown by 602 to 6,078, the head of the Civil Protection Agency said on Monday, an 11% increase but the smallest rise in numerical terms since Thursday, suggesting a clear downward trend.
    On Sunday, 651 people died. That followed 793 on Saturday and 627 on Friday

    Yes, it's nonsense.  This question isn't about the morality rate ... which could in fact be high based on people who had it without any symptoms or who had mild symptoms and were never tested.

    What's at issue is the hospitalization rate, which is high enough where it has manifested itself in the medical system of Italy being completely overwhelmed.

    Now, I think they released it on purpose, and I think they are using it in favor of some agenda, but I do not think it's fake or made up or just a way to get Trump or, as one Trad told me, just a cold going around.  That's ridiculous.

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    Re: 35 Sources showing corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud.
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    When you get PERSONAL correspondence from people hit by the virus and/or know people personally being hit by the virus, I'm inclined to believe it's NOT just a hoax.
    If it was just reporting from the MSM, you could be skeptical.

    Except the symptoms for this virus are so ridiculously broad that it could be anything. The only thing we rely on to "know" it is the virus are the tests.

    The chief medical officer in England even said you could have the virus and have no symptoms at all! So you can be sick and not sick at the same time.

    So if there was a virus with very particular and unusual symptoms, and I knew someone with those specific symptoms, then I would be inclined to believe it is not a fake.

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    Re: 35 Sources showing corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud.
    « Reply #10 on: March 24, 2020, 06:46:16 AM »
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  • Brits downgrade Coronavirus. VERY interesting.


    "The UK Government has now downgraded COVID-19, they no longer see it as a high consequence infectious disease, they confirm mortality rate is low"

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/fnw8jr/the_uk_government_has_now_downgraded_covid19_they/


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    Re: 35 Sources showing corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud.
    « Reply #11 on: March 24, 2020, 09:03:04 AM »
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  • It's Not "Just The Flu": Here's Why You Definitely Don't Want To Catch COVID-19...

    Authored by Michael Snyder via TheMostImportantNews.com,

    Can you imagine being in “blinding pain” for weeks, constantly gasping for air as you feel like you are being suffocated, and screaming for mercy because you are in so much constant torment?  As you will see below, coronavirus survivors are telling us about their hellish ordeals, and they are warning us to do everything that we can to avoid this virus.  Of course they are the lucky ones.  As I detailed in another article, the global death toll has doubled over the past six days, and so far the very high death rate in the United States is extremely alarming.  So those that survive should consider themselves to be very fortunate, but many of those same individuals will be left with permanent lung damage. 

    This virus attacks the respiratory system with a ferocity that is shocking doctors, and those that are still attempting to claim that COVID-19 is “just like the flu” need to stop, because they are just making things worse.

    Researchers have found that this virus has an incubation period of up to 24 days, and people can spread it around long before they are showing any symptoms.

    And you don’t even have to encounter someone with the virus to catch it.  According to Bloomberg, new research has discovered that this virus can remain on surfaces “for as many as 17 days”…

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    Traces of new coronavirus were found on surfaces in cruise-ship cabins for as many as 17 days after passengers left, researchers said, though it wasn’t possible to determine whether they caused any infections.

    Researchers looked at the rooms of infected passengers aboard the Diamond Princess, both those who showed symptoms and those who didn’t, according to a study Monday in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

    When you combine those two factors, it makes COVID-19 nearly impossible to contain.

    This is a major emergency, and it makes me angry that there are prominent voices out there that are still trying to downplay this pandemic.  As a result, many people are not taking proper precautions, and a lot of them are going to end up catching the virus.

    If you are reading this and you still don’t think that COVID-19 is a big deal, please take a moment to consider the following five stories about coronavirus survivors…

    #1 26-year-old Fiona Lowenstein
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    That night I woke up in the middle of the night with chills, vomiting, and shortness of breath. By Monday, I could barely speak more than a few words without feeling like I was gasping for air. I couldn’t walk to the bathroom without panting as if I’d run a mile. On Monday evening, I tried to eat, but found I couldn’t get enough oxygen while doing so. Any task that was at all anxiety-producing — even resetting my MyChart password to communicate with my doctor — left me desperate for oxygen.

    #2 55-year-old Kevin Harris
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    “Imagine your lungs turning solid. It’s like suffocating without holding your nose,” said Harris, who owns an auto body shop and typically runs 5 miles every day.
    “Every time I lay down, my breathing gets lower and lower. I thought my lungs would fail me. I was screaming for mercy and praying to God.”

    #3 25-year-old Connor Reed
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    A Welshman who caught the coronavirus in China has described how the deadly disease hit him “like a train” leaving him “suffocating” and in blinding pain for weeks.
    Connor Reed, from Llandudno, got ill while working as an English teacher in Wuhan.
    The 25-year-old described how it started as “just a sniffle” on November 25 – a month before authorities officially announced the virus – but over the next three-and-a-half weeks he got increasingly ill and was unable to move.

    #4 39-year-old Tara Jane Langston
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    ‘It’s like having glass in your lungs, it’s hard to explain, but every breath is a battle.
    ‘It’s absolutely horrible and I wouldn’t want to go through anything like this ever again. I’d been ill for about five days before I was taken to hospital in an ambulance.
    ‘I’d originally been diagnosed with a chest infection and given antibiotics and advised to take ibuprofen and paracetamol. I was taking about eight ibuprofen a day and they now think that that exacerbated the problem.

    #5 A 12-year-old girl in Georgia named Emma
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    Emma, a 12-year-old girl, is “fighting for her life” in an Atlanta hospital after testing positive for the coronavirus, according to her cousin.
    Justin Anthony told CNN that Emma was diagnosed with pneumonia on March 15 and tested positive for coronavirus on Friday night. As of Saturday, she was on a ventilator and is currently in stable condition, Anthony said.

    As you can see, this virus is not just hitting “old people” extremely hard.

    But if you are above the age of 60, please understand that you at very high risk, and you need to stay away from public places for the foreseeable future.
    I know that it can be hard to stay home day after day, but this is truly a very, very deadly virus.

    At this point, even doctors and nurses are “scared to go to work”
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    Doctors and nurses on the front lines of the fight against the coronavirus in the United States say it’s “the first time” they’ve been scared to go to work. With a shortage of personal protective equipment, some have resorted to using bandanas to cover their faces.

    “It’s the first time we’ve ever been truly scared to come to work, but despite being scared we are trained to save lives and we’re committed to doing that,” Dr. Cornelia Griggs, a surgeon in New York City, told “CBS This Morning.” “I’m embarrassed to say, but prior to this, my husband and I had never gotten around to writing a will, but this weekend that became one of our to-do list items.”

    As I have been writing this article, over 2,000 more confirmed cases were added to the rapidly growing total here in the United States.  And as I discussed yesterday, it looks like the U.S. is going to have a very high death rate just like we are seeing in western European countries such as Italy and Spain.
    So please take this pandemic very seriously.  A lot of Americans are going to die, and it is going to be a great national tragedy.
    Please pray for those that have caught the virus and are deeply suffering.  It is in our darkest moments that we need a miracle the most, and there are a whole lot of people out there that need one right now.

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    Re: 35 Sources showing corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud.
    « Reply #12 on: March 24, 2020, 10:45:36 AM »
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  • Brits downgrade Coronavirus. VERY interesting.


    "The UK Government has now downgraded COVID-19, they no longer see it as a high consequence infectious disease, they confirm mortality rate is low"

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/fnw8jr/the_uk_government_has_now_downgraded_covid19_they/
    Looked it up and here it is in the UK.Gov sight:
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

    Status of COVID-19
    As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.
    The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.
    The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.
    The need to have a national, coordinated response remains, but this is being met by the government’s COVID-19 response.
    Cases of COVID-19 are no longer managed by HCID treatment centres only. All healthcare workers managing possible and confirmed cases should follow the updated national infection and prevention (IPC) guidance for COVID-19, which supersedes all previous IPC guidance for COVID-19. This guidance includes instructions about different personal protective equipment (PPE) ensembles that are appropriate for different clinical scenarios.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: 35 Sources showing corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud.
    « Reply #13 on: March 24, 2020, 10:50:46 AM »
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  • Looked it up and here it is in the UK.Gov sight:
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

    Status of COVID-19
    As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.
    The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.
    The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.
    The need to have a national, coordinated response remains, but this is being met by the government’s COVID-19 response.
    Cases of COVID-19 are no longer managed by HCID treatment centres only. All healthcare workers managing possible and confirmed cases should follow the updated national infection and prevention (IPC) guidance for COVID-19, which supersedes all previous IPC guidance for COVID-19. This guidance includes instructions about different personal protective equipment (PPE) ensembles that are appropriate for different clinical scenarios.
    For more details see the link and links within the UK Government notice above. You see, the problem with Corona Virus is that it overwhelmed the Italian and other Socialized medical care countries, that is the problem, because the death rates are very low, so that is not the problem (Influenza flu killed about 43,000 Americans last year and nobody made a big deal about it).  UK therefore in removing the Corona Virus from the list of HCID does not consider it to be a burden to the medical care system, they do not consider it a big deal, just like the Influenza Flu that killed 43,000 in the USA was not consider a big deal ( I never heard of Influenza till the Corona Virus became THE ONLY NEWS)
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: 35 Sources showing corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud.
    « Reply #14 on: March 24, 2020, 10:58:33 AM »
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  • So please take this pandemic very seriously.  A lot of Americans are going to die, and it is going to be a great national tragedy.


    Music to the ears of the NWO.


     

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