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Title: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Stubborn on December 21, 2018, 12:09:21 PM
Here is the link for We The People Will Fund The Wall (https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_content=campaign_title&utm_campaign=donation_receiptv5). When I saw this yesterday afternoon, it was at about $8.2 million from, I think 160,000 people. Now, less than 24 hours later, it is at about $12.4 Million from 203,000 people.



 
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Vintagewife3 on December 21, 2018, 01:50:36 PM
The wall got approved last night I heard for 5.9 billion. Somehow the money just magically appeared in the budget!
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Neil Obstat on December 22, 2018, 03:12:47 AM
The wall got approved last night I heard for 5.9 billion. Somehow the money just magically appeared in the budget!
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It's because Congress is watching the Go Fund Me and they don't want to look like fools (if that were possible).
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Vintagewife3 on December 22, 2018, 12:58:13 PM
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It's because Congress is watching the Go Fund Me and they don't want to look like fools (if that were possible).
The funding was blocked again. It’s seriously such a game of tennis right now. The American people honestly believe something is gonna happen.
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Quid Retribuam Domino on December 22, 2018, 09:15:16 PM
The wall got approved last night I heard for 5.9 billion. Somehow the money just magically appeared in the budget!

The president has powers within executive orders to reallocate some money from the defense budget to building the wall because it's, de facto, a national defense issue.
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Maria Regina on December 23, 2018, 12:03:31 AM
The president has powers within executive orders to reallocate some money from the defense budget to building the wall because it's, de facto, a national defense issue.

Indeed, POTUS does has the authority to reallocate enough money to build that wall. He can have the Army Engineers do it.

Listen to this video from Fox News starring Judge Jeannine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6AveFl4PLY

And here is the most recent Q drop with a youtube video showing a younger Obama and Hillary preaching the need for that very Wall, that was funded but never built. Obama and Hillary did not keep their promise to American Citizens to protect us by building that wall.

Q!!mG7VJxZNCI 22 Dec 2018 - 8:36:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHnGFkUS_lc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHnGFkUS_lc)
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Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Conspiracy_Factist on December 24, 2018, 08:54:43 AM
what happened to the Mexicans will pay for it, has Trump addressed that lately?
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: ClarkSmith on December 24, 2018, 10:31:55 AM
what happened to the Mexicans will pay for it, has Trump addressed that lately?
I think it's not allowed. The money has to come from the treasury. 
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mick-mulvaney-dhs-spend-money-mexico-wall-treasury/story?id=59977618
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Stubborn on December 24, 2018, 10:56:52 AM
There are so many lies and falsehoods spread by MSM and the crooks like Chuck Jєωmer, the whole thing exposes with certainty who the crooks in power actually are. The brainwashed population won't be completely satisfied until it's too late.

I heard our president say something along the lines of - the wall will pay for itself in a few years from the money made by replacing NAFTA, I guess that's how Mexico is paying for it. I heard that illegals cost taxpayers $70 billion/year, which means at $30 billion, economically speaking, the wall only makes good sense.   
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Neil Obstat on December 26, 2018, 12:25:10 AM
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I heard a radio report that the Go Fund Me program has raised about $30 million from something like 10 times as many contributors than before.
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The vet who started the crowd funding said that contributors should stop using fake names like Nancy Peℓσѕι and Hilary Clinton because he says that those donations will have to be refunded! Sounds like he means business.
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Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Miseremini on January 04, 2019, 02:29:39 PM
Bump
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Stubborn on January 11, 2019, 07:46:38 AM
Yahoo has a poll going:
Vote: Do you think the US should build a border wall? (https://news.yahoo.com/vote-think-u-s-build-border-wall-202250867.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=fb&fbclid=IwAR2vQlGy8hiNRewa-DHyb3bY1J2kXt_F_6bPlXCuGQIDG2nBUScKBkyXiaU)

So far, after about 176,000 votes, 57% yes / 43% no
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: MaterDominici on January 11, 2019, 01:41:09 PM
I saw a brief clip of a Democrat congressman who, instead of the usual talking points, admitted that on that day his office had received 67 calls to build the wall and only 5 against it. So, I shot off an email to my Democrat congressman hopping he'll get the same message. His official position is that he's in favor of a "smart wall", but I'm pretty sure the area he represents (part of McAllen, TX) already has a physical wall, so it's all a matter of saving face with his party to not be officially in favor of what Trump is asking.
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: JezusDeKoning on January 11, 2019, 03:12:26 PM
Let's build the wall, but also end the shutdown. 

People have to get paid, and paid soon. It's the longest shutdown in U.S. history as of now, with Congress out for the weekend.
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Vintagewife3 on January 11, 2019, 03:33:49 PM
So many people are hurting right now.... it’s upsetting...
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: songbird on January 11, 2019, 08:16:43 PM
IMO the federal government is paying faith-based organizations to house/relief for the illegals.  Federal wants the USA to have complete take over. Wall or no wall, this has been going on a very long time.  If there is a wall, illegals dig under the wall.  Drugs have tunnels between Mexico and USA.  Buses bring them in.  So, now what?
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: JezusDeKoning on January 18, 2019, 04:53:08 PM
So many people are hurting right now.... it’s upsetting...
We've reached day 28 of this government shutdown and this next week will mark a month of mostly middle-class federal workers working for free, missing bill payments, possibly defaulting on their houses and apartments.

Meanwhile, Congress gets lifetime pensions and a high six-figure salary. And they've done NOTHING!

Middle-class America cannot miss a paycheck. 76% of this country cannot miss a paycheck (https://money.cnn.com/2013/06/24/pf/emergency-savings/) and expect to still have their act together, and it's partially Trump's fault. Partially Congress too. Visa overstays have exceeded illegal border crossings (https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings) for some time now and they will build tunnels under the wall. Maybe the solution to make the border safer is far more complex than we think, and it's not so black and white. I genuinely don't know.

But there should have been a fully-funded government in 24 hours. Not 28 days and counting.
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Stubborn on January 18, 2019, 07:27:05 PM
We've reached day 28 of this government shutdown and this next week will mark a month of mostly middle-class federal workers working for free, missing bill payments, possibly defaulting on their houses and apartments.

Meanwhile, Congress gets lifetime pensions and a high six-figure salary. And they've done NOTHING!

Middle-class America cannot miss a paycheck. 76% of this country cannot miss a paycheck (https://money.cnn.com/2013/06/24/pf/emergency-savings/) and expect to still have their act together, and it's partially Trump's fault. Partially Congress too. Visa overstays have exceeded illegal border crossings (https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings) for some time now and they will build tunnels under the wall. Maybe the solution to make the border safer is far more complex than we think, and it's not so black and white. I genuinely don't know.

But there should have been a fully-funded government in 24 hours. Not 28 days and counting.
I would not place any blame whatsoever on the president, any and all blame lies squarely on the swamp, Peℓσѕι and Schumer in particular. The below meme is clearly true.

 
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: MaterDominici on January 18, 2019, 08:51:44 PM
Maybe the solution to make the border safer is far more complex than we think, and it's not so black and white. I genuinely don't know.
My opinion is that if a wall wasn't effective anyway, the left wouldn't be so against it. I certainly don't believe that it's the cost that's holding them back. They'd happily spend 50x that much if it gave them something they wanted, but not if it involves building even part of a physical barrier.
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: MaterDominici on January 18, 2019, 10:33:32 PM
Here is the link for We The People Will Fund The Wall (https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_content=campaign_title&utm_campaign=donation_receiptv5). When I saw this yesterday afternoon, it was at about $8.2 million from, I think 160,000 people. Now, less than 24 hours later, it is at about $12.4 Million from 203,000 people.
It was almost certain that this money would be refunded when the fundraiser didn't reach it's goal of $1B. Now, they are letting those who donated "opt in" to using the funds to privately build segments of the wall. The updates are at the original link.
Title: Re: "The Wall" and Go Fund Me
Post by: Stubborn on January 19, 2019, 05:27:48 AM
A good break down of what it's all about - except toward the end where he slams the Church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T4loVM_iOg