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Offline gladius_veritatis

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"Muslims Didnt Do It"
« on: September 24, 2010, 12:17:25 PM »
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  • http://www.twf.org/News/Y2010/0911-NotMuslims.html

    Muslims Didn't Do It

        "All the proffered evidence that America was attacked by Muslims on 9/11, when subjected to critical scrutiny, appears to have been fabricated." -- David Ray Griffin, Professor emeritus, philosopher, and author of couple of dozen books on philosophy and 9/11

        Military and Intelligence Services Officials

        "I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that that's accurate." -- Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S. Marine Corps (ret)

        "Scholars and professionals . . . have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official 'investigations' have really been cover-up operations." -- Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret)

        "Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away." -- Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret)

        "It is as a scientist that I have the most trouble with the official government conspiracy theory, mainly because it does not satisfy the rules of probability or physics." -- Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret)

        "No aircraft hit the Pentagon. Totally impossible! You couldn't make the turns with a 757. You couldn't fly it in over the highway. You couldn't fly it over the light poles. You couldn't even get it that close to the ground because of turbulence." -- Major Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret)

        "The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." -- Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force

        "[W]hat we saw happen on that morning of September 11, 2001, was the result of a highly-compartmentalized covert operation to bring about a fascist coup in this country." -- Alan N. Sabrosky, PhD

        Pilots and Aviation Professionals

        "We analyzed the data and announced our conclusion on 3/26/07 that 'The information provided by the NTSB does not support the 9/11 Commission Report of American Airlines Flight 77 impact with the Pentagon.'" -- Rob Balsamo, Commercial airline pilot, Co-founder Pilots for 9/11 Truth

        "I most certainly and honestly believe, that sometime in the near future, it will become common knowledge that the events of 9/11 were an 'inside job' designed, engineered and committed by a very large and 'in control' rogue element within our United States federal government". -- Glen Stanish, Commercial airline pilot

        "No Boeing 757 ever crashed into the Pentagon. No Boeing 757 ever crashed at Shanksville. . . . And no Arab hijacker, ever in a million years, ever flew into the World Trade Center. And if you got 30 minutes I'll tell you exactly why he couldn't do it the first time." -- John Lear, Retired commercial airline pilot

        ". . . an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon." -- Capt. Russ Wittenberg, Retired commercial pilot

        "I was also a Navy fighter pilot and Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School and have experience flying low altitude, high speed aircraft. I could not have done what these beginners did." -- Commander Ralph Kolstad, Retired commercial airline captain

        "I know from my experience that it would have been highly improbable that even a seasoned American test pilot, a military test pilot, could have flown a T-category, aircraft like the 757, into the first floor of the Pentagon because of a thing called Ground Effect." -- Capt. Fred Fox, Retired commercial airline pilot

        "The Pentagon was not hit by a Boeing 757. A Boeing 757 did not crash in Shanksville Pa." -- Gordon Price, Retired commercial airline captain

        Engineers and Architects

        "The 9/11 Commission Report is fatally flawed. The major conclusions of the 9/11 Commission Report - the official, conspiracy theory - are false." -- Enver Masud, Engineer and author "9/11 Unveiled"

        "[A]ll three World Trade Center high-rise buildings, the Twin Towers and Building 7 were destroyed not by fire as our government has told us, but by controlled demolition with explosives." -- Richard Gage, Founding member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

        "I have 'known' from day-one that the buildings were imploded and that they could not and would not have collapsed from the damage caused by the airplanes that ran into them." -- Daniel B. Barnum, B.Arch, FAIA

        "ymmetrical collapse is strong evidence of a controlled demolition. A building falling from asymmetrical structural failure would not collapse so neatly, nor so rapidly". -- David A. Johnson, B.Arch, MCP, PhD, F.AICP

        "Obviously it [WTC 7] was the result of controlled demolition and scheduled to take place during the confusion surrounding the day's events." -- Jack Keller, BS CE, MS Irrigation Eng, PhD Agricultural and Irrigation Eng, PE, F.ASCE

        "In my opinion the building WTC 7 was, with great probability, professionally demolished". -- Hugo Bachmann, PhD

        "The [Twin Tower] building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door." -- Frank A. DeMartini, Architect and WTC Construction Manager

        "I looked at the drawings, the construction and it couldn't be done by fire. So, no, absolutely not." -- Danny Jowenko, Proprietor, Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V.

        Professors

        "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations." -- A. K. Dewdney, PhD, Member Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven

        "Despite the absence of any visible fire at the time of collapse, the government report alleges WTC Building 7 is the first and only steel-framed high-rise building in the history of mankind to collapse simply as the result of a fire." -- David L. Griscom, Research physicist, Member Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice

        "Truth, Ethics and Professionalism are completely lacking in the official aftermath and investigations surrounding the 911 disasters. Unfortunately we went to war predicated on lies, sustained in lies, and perpetuated in lies." -- Hamid Mumin, Ph.D., P.Eng., P.Geo.

        "In my opinion the building WTC 7 was, with great probability, professionally demolished". -- Jorg Schneider, Dr hc, Professor Emeritus, Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering

        "This is the first time, and this is the worst disaster, but this is the first time that families have been attempted to be silenced through a special fund, . . . I found that the airlines approached members of Congress and the Senate to get their bailout and their immunity and their protection starting on 9/11." -- Mary Schiavo, JD, Former Professor of Aviation

        "On the basis of photographic and video evidence as well as related data and analyses, I provide thirteen reasons for rejecting the official hypothesis, according to which fire and impact damage caused the collapse of the Twin Towers and WTC 7, in favor of the controlled-demolition hypothesis." -- Steven Jones, PhD, Former Professor of Physics
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    "Muslims Didnt Do It"
    « Reply #1 on: September 24, 2010, 12:24:31 PM »
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  • Sorry, as I do not know how the second half of the text above got crossed out...so I cannot undo it.

    Suffice it to say, the people quoted above are hardly amateurs in their fields.
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    "Muslims Didnt Do It"
    « Reply #2 on: September 24, 2010, 12:31:50 PM »
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  • One time before I brought up this scene from the old show I Love Lucy.  I realize that the show was way before the time of the vast majority of the people who post here.  

    Nevertheless, there was one episode where the Ricardos and the Mertzs bought a diner.  They had a fight about something and split the diner in half with a line on the wall.  Meantime, a drunk man came in who kept going from side to side of the diner as each side lowered their prices to entice the drunk to their side.

    That, my friends, is how I feel.   The disinformation is so thick that I find it impossible to get to the TRUTH about anything anymore, including 9/11.



    P.S.  Happy Birthday, Eamon! :wink:

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    "Muslims Didnt Do It"
    « Reply #3 on: September 27, 2010, 01:29:24 PM »
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  • From a clerical stand point, love Bishop Williamson's statements, some have in Mp3 talks, some found written:

    oops, now those sites are blocked.well, keep listening to him and any MP2's you may find on him, he mentions it a lot "9/11 is a fraud..F-R-A-U-D"
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    "Muslims Didnt Do It"
    « Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 01:30:47 PM »
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  • found at this site something: http://endwhiteguilt.blogspot.com/2010/07/bishop-richard-williamson-official-911.html

    BISHOP WILLIAMSON: "Ruling us today it's not a party as brutal, as openly brutal as the Stalinists of Russia was. It's not yet a police state imposing upon us to say that two and two are five. But the police state, of course, every single one of you know, is certainly closing in, both here and in the United States for sure and certain. The police state took a great leap forward with 9-11. That's for certain.

    And I hope that none of you believe that 9-11 is what it was presented to be. It was, of course, the two towers came down. But it was absolutely, for certain, not two airplanes which brought down those two towers. They were professionally demolished by a series of demolition charges from the top to the bottom of the towers. If you doubt that, look up on the internet "911Mysteries.com."

    I mention this...you may find I do mention this in sermon. Why do I keep mentioning this in sermons? Because truth is at stake. Because if the towers fell down by two airplanes, then the Party is virtually in control. The party governs the people's minds. The party can push over all kinds of propaganda and lies, in it's media. And if the people swallow the lies, they will be enslaved.

    Our Lord said the truth will make you free. The corollary it that lies will enslave you. At the moment, the whole world is being told lies....by the media, by the government, by the politicians, by the universities, by the teachers -- and the worst of all, by the highest authorities in the Church.

    We are being enslaved by lies. And the most outstanding global lie of recent times to enslave the minds of all of us -- or to deceive the minds, and thereby enslave us by making us all believe that the police state is a good thing, and a necessary thing, which is why the police state has advanced by leaps and bounds, as it has -- is 9/11. And that's a classic example of an enslaving lie. Two and two are five. Those towers were brought down by two airplanes, and it was an airplane which struck the Pentagon. That's totally impossible....that an airplane struck the Pentagon. A commercial airplane has a very soft nose. You don't have a nose of titanium or steel. That's not what an airplane could fly with. If you tried taking off with that, it would nose-dive immediately after it lifted off the airport, if it had such a heavy nose. The nose of a commercial aircraft is very soft. It's just a little aluminum covering...the radar of the plane is usually under the nose. The nose is very soft.

    Whatever hit the Pentagon went through six, punched it's way through six of the ten 18" stone walls between outside the Pentagon and its inner courtyard. There are five rings of buildings, each of them with an outer and inner wall, and whatever hit the Pentagon went through six of those ten walls before it came to a stop. The photographic evidence was clear as it could be. The newspapers, of course, did not publish those photographs, but they do exist.

    Then, it can only have been a guided missile which struck the Pentagon, and only guided missiles have a tough nose, titanium and steel, with an explosive charge, of two charges -- one charge to penetrate the wall...and then the second charge to explode inside. And that's exactly what the photographs show, with a fire running up and down inside the outer wall of the Pentagon.

    So, we were all of us told, and I hope none of us still believe, that it was the work of three commercial airliners piloted by 19 Mohammedans, who as you may well know, seven of, at least, are notably alive and walking around. Lies. Lies. Lies.

    And that's where it's at. Lies or truth. And you will have today some decent non-Catholics, like George Orwell, decent and intelligent men. Some decent men who realize that what's at stake here -- even before, in a certain sense...in a certain sense even before religion is brought up, even before God is in question -- that is truth. Does there exist truth? Is there truth?"
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


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    « Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 02:04:27 PM »
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  • Belloc, it is harder on those of us who remember a much saner world and Church.  This is what I was trying to convey.  You were born into an insane world and Church.  I was fortunate enough to have caught the tail end of both Church and world before both went off the deep end.

    At times, it is unbearable for me to remember those days without such searing pain (pardon the emotion, but I do not know how else to convey it) at the thought of all we have lost and let ourselves lose.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 02:17:35 PM »
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  • I think that many of us have the searing pain, though experiences are different...

    In the 70's, we had a lot of changes, true, some before me, some after, but our elderly pastor kept us safe in a lot of ways and sheltered...that changed in early 80's, then my parents got active in many groups, some that as I look back were just starting to get subverted by Neocons, others but other groups, some decent....

    saw my share of pain, but true, you are older and  have had longer and hence, more experiences, that is true...


    my priest one time said that terrible as things are and were, we have to look past and embrace that good, etc...not sugar coating, but talking about how some hold unto anger and it turns them...usually not good and often towards  :devil2:
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

     

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