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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 02:09:44 PM »
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  • It is things like this that make me want to go back to and stay in the Church regardless of what is or isn't going on there.

    Posting things like this does more harm than good for the "cause" and only makes a mockery out of the sedevacantists.   It is enough to make anyone even considering it to turn away in disgust.

    Whether it is true or not, I care not at this point.  Too many independent bishops with dubious orders in the sedevacantist circles are popping up all over the place.  It is really starting to look more protestant than Catholic.

    This is what happens when you are your own authority.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 02:34:48 PM »
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  • The link does not work for me.  :confused1:

    Pls explain how it would make one want to return to NO church. I have tried numerous times to convince the 'sedes' in this forum that there is No Such Thing as 'sede vacantism'.
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    « Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 02:47:29 PM »
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    The link does not work for me.  :confused1:

    Pls explain how it would make one want to return to NO church. I have tried numerous times to convince the 'sedes' in this forum that there is No Such Thing as 'sede vacantism'.


    Because, Roscoe, it is absolute insanity.  Men going around getting themselves "ordained" by "bishops" who themselves are questionable.  Then, once they get themselves "ordained", they find a "bishop" who they can convince to "consecrate" them too.

    They all claim to be the "only true bishop" and demand the allegiance of all "true Catholics".  

    If that doesn't work, they then proceed to rake through the coals the reputation of anyone whom they perceive to be a threat to their territory and to their flock.  In other words, less money for them if more bogus bishops are on the horizon.

    It is insanity; they are not the "true Church of Christ" no matter how bad the present crisis is.  

    Once again, this is what happens when you become your own authority and submit your judgment to no one but yourself.

    P.S.  The link worked for me.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 02:53:26 PM »
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    The link does not work for me.  :confused1:

    Pls explain how it would make one want to return to NO church. I have tried numerous times to convince the 'sedes' in this forum that there is No Such Thing as 'sede vacantism'.


    Because, Roscoe, it is absolute insanity.  Men going around getting themselves "ordained" by "bishops" who themselves are questionable.  Then, once they get themselves "ordained", they find a "bishop" who they can convince to "consecrate" them too.

    They all claim to be the "only true bishop" and demand the allegiance of all "true Catholics".  

    If that doesn't work, they then proceed to rake through the coals the reputation of anyone whom they perceive to be a threat to their territory and to their flock.  In other words, less money for them if more bogus bishops are on the horizon.

    It is insanity; they are not the "true Church of Christ" no matter how bad the present crisis is.  

    Once again, this is what happens when you become your own authority and submit your judgment to no one but yourself.

    P.S.  The link worked for me.


    I have to agree with Roscoe on this one. Why under any circumstances would one WANT to go to the NO Church? There is no logical reason behind that.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 03:11:01 PM »
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    It is things like this that make me want to go back to and stay in the Church regardless of what is or isn't going on there.


    hadnt heard you left the Church....or do you mean, mainstream RCC???  :surprised:
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 03:14:39 PM »
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  • Dear me, I really have to qualify everything that I write on here.

    Mainstream church, Belloc!  

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    « Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 03:22:04 PM »
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  • Correct me if I am wrong SS, but aren't you one who thinks the NO anti-pope Benedict is somehow Pope of the Roman Catholic Church?
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    « Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 04:25:41 PM »
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  • Somehow the link is working now. My only comment is( again) that Fr Feeney was never censored, condemned or summoned by any legal Chuch Authority. In fact, Pius XII(XIII) supports Fr Feeney in Humani Generis.

    Mo is the at Dimonds should be considered as Neo- Feeneyites. IOW, not supporters of the true Fr Feeney.
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    « Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 10:39:26 PM »
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  • While it is important to note that while Webster is a heretic and this cannot be forgotten, the issue here are his lies about Bishop Louis Vezelis and the abduction of Bishop Ngo. These lies, thanks to the "itching ears" of so many have spread as the feather-penance given by St. Philip Neri.
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    « Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 10:55:10 PM »
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    the issue here are his lies about Bishop Louis Vezelis and the abduction of Bishop Ngo.


    Is it possible to share the details of what TRULY happened to Archbishop Thuc?

    Thanks.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 11:11:26 PM »
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  • Thuc was Bishop Ngo's given Vietnamese name. Anyway, yes the truth is available - it was described in the Seraph as well as an audio interview (sadly the link is broken). However, it is described in the book "Archbishop Ngo-Dinh-Thuc: Martyr for the Faith" by Bishop Louis Vezelis published by the Franciscan Press. Available for $15 - includes shipping and handling.

    http://bishoplouisofm.blogspot.com/2008/03/books-by-bishop-louis-vezelis-ofm.html
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    « Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 11:32:11 PM »
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  • Thank you.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 17, 2010, 06:46:24 AM »
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  • Quote from: obediens
    While it is important to note that while Webster is a heretic and this cannot be forgotten, the issue here are his lies about Bishop Louis Vezelis and the abduction of Bishop Ngo. These lies, thanks to the "itching ears" of so many have spread as the feather-penance given by St. Philip Neri.


    I have read that Webster's account of what happened to Thuc is independently corroborated to a large degree by another cleric you do not like who says he witnessed some of the events.

    See The Answers by Father Kevin Vaillancourt:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:VT4cInWvdxEJ:http://www.christorchaos.com/FatherStepanichontheThucLineConsecrations.htm+the+answers+Fr+vaillancourt&ct=clnk


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    « Reply #14 on: November 17, 2010, 08:04:41 AM »
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  • "Roman Catholic," I would very interested in knowing who this cleric is. And where did you find this out, in Vaillancourt's book?
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