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« on: November 21, 2011, 12:48:37 PM »
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  • I found this online earlier

    http://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/mother-agnes-merriam-al-saleeb-nameless-gunmen-possessing-advanced-firearms-terrorize-citizens-and-security-in-syria/
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    BEIRUT (SANA) – 19/11/2011 -  Mother Agnes Merriam al-Saleeb, head of the Catholic Media Center team which visited Syria and witnessed the reality of the situation on the ground, said on Friday that there’s an environment that is nurturing and is in charge of nameless gunmen possessing advanced firearms and ammo, instructing them to vandalize and terrorize citizens and security forces in Syria.
    In a press conference attended by Italian, Belgian, French, Spanish and US journalists who visited Syria, Mother Agnes pointed out that the Catholic Media Center was the first media delegation that visited openly the hotspots and hospitals and witnessed what was being inflicted upon the security forces and the army.

    She pointed out that the Center has a list of the names of the actual victims who were murdered, butchered and dismembered for no discernible reason, adding that the images of those victims were used later in media setup claiming that security forces killed them.

    Mother Agnes said that the Center has more than 800 names of murder victims, 372 of them murdered in October alone, all of them security forces, pointing out to the “prophetic” observatory called the Syrian Human Rights Observatory that posts daily numbers of deceased people without giving a single name, adding that the Center called the Observatory and requested the names of the deceased, which it failed to deliver to this moment.
    She pointed out that some mass media sources are causing people to make horrible mistake, which is unacceptable, noting that the press statutes have become mere ink on paper, with press reporting things that don’t exist in reality and trying to depict Syria as having two components, with the first side being the villains who are the army, security forces and the so-called “shabiha”, and the other side being the protestors who are depicted as being peaceful as lambs and demanding freedom, democracy and human rights.

    In turn, journalists from Italian, Belgian, French, Spanish and US news agencies and independent journalists from Lebanon, Algeria and France stressed that objectivity requires acknowledging the fact that there are armed groups attacking the Syrian security forces in order to weaken the regime.
    Webster Griffin Tarpley from the Grove Institute in Washington demanded that the BBC, CNN al-Jazeera cease broadcasting lies, saying that he and other journalists visited Homs, Banyas, Tartous and other cities and didn’t see the army killing the people; rather there were armed, hooded groups and sniper killing the army.

    For his part, Marc George from the French newspaper Le Libre said that the journalists visited Homs and Banyas and talked to injured soldiers and saw the bodies of the martyrs, affirming that what they witnessed had nothing to do to what was proclaimed by the media, and that the demonstrations were pro-government and not against it.
    George stressed that the only martyrs they saw were soldiers, not civilians, and that the al-Jazeera, al-Arabiya and BBC speak as it they’re reciting a lesson that has no relation to the truth.
    H. Sabbagh – Sana.News

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    « Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 02:07:22 PM »
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  • What practicing Catholic does not recognize the modus operandi of the children of the Father of Lies?

    The 25 Rules of Disinformation

    They are on other campaigns of lies as well:

    A Message To The SPLC From A Montana “Extremist”


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    « Reply #2 on: November 23, 2011, 08:17:38 PM »
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  • Yesterday we reported that the Arab League (with European and US support) are preparing to institute a no fly zone over Syria. Today, we get an escalation which confirms we may be on the edge. Just out from CBS: "The U.S. Embassy in Damascus urged its citizens in Syria to depart "immediately," and Turkey's foreign ministry urged Turkish pilgrims to opt for flights to return home from Saudi Arabia to avoid traveling through Syria." But probably the most damning evidence that the "western world" is about to do the unthinkable and invade Syria, and in the process force Iran to retaliate, is the weekly naval update from Stratfor, which always has some very interesting if always controversial view on geopolitics, where we find that for the first time in many months, CVN 77 George H.W. Bush has left its traditional theater of operations just off the Straits of Hormuz, a critical choke point, where it traditionally accompanies the Stennis, and has parked... right next to Syria.

    From Stratfor:



    And from CBS:

    "The U.S. Embassy continues to urge U.S. citizens in Syria to depart immediately while commercial transportation is available," said a statement issued to the American community in Syria Wednesday and posted on the Embassy's website. "The number of airlines serving Syria has decreased significantly since the summer, while many of those airlines remaining have reduced their number of flights."
     
    The warning followed an announcement in Washington this week that Ambassador Robert Ford would not return to Syria this month as planned, indicating concerns over his safety.
     
    The Obama administration quietly pulled Ford out of Syria last month, citing credible personal threats against him.
     
    The Turkish foreign ministry on Wednesday urged Turkish pilgrims to opt for flights to return home from Saudi Arabia and avoid traveling through Syria for security reasons.
     
    The warning came two days after Syrian soldiers opened fire on at least two buses carrying Turkish citizens, witnesses and officials said, apparent retaliation for Turkey's criticism of Assad. The Turks were returning from Saudi Arabia after performing the annual Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia.
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    « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 03:24:34 PM »
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  • http://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/christians-in-syria-are-with-bashar-al-assad-i-cristiani-di-syria-sono-con-bashar-al-assad-video/
    Christians in Syria are with Bashar al-Assad – I Cristiani di Syria sono con Bashar al-Assad (Video)
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    « Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 10:31:01 AM »
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  • The whole "democratic rebellion in Syria" is a sham, and a contrived excuse for us to try to blow up another country.

    I'm tired of seeing this country try to fight the world.
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    « Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 06:43:54 AM »
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  • Where there is smoke there is fire: Russia denies that it has landed special forces troops in Syria

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    Earlier today, Al Arabiya made waves in the energy market following reports that a Russian ship carrying special forces had arrived in the Syrian port of Tartus, previously demonstrated here to be a key strategic asset in the Mediterranean. This news was promptly denied by RIA, which said that "there were no Russian military ships off Syria coast" and that the Iman ship is a tanker which is merely conducting resource support functions. Furthermore, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the crew of Iman consists solely of "civilian personnel, which is being guarded." That may or may not be the case, but has not stopped ABC from blasting, minutes ago, a headline that "Russian anti-terror troops arrive in Syria" a development that a "United Nations Security Council source told ABC News was "a bomb" certain to have serious repercussions." Which begs the question: is everyone now dead set on having war in Syria, and by proxy, Iran?


    In short, yes.

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    « Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 12:54:11 PM »
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  • The Christians of Syria (10% of the population) are between a rock and a hard place.  The Baathist regime is secular, with liberty of religious expression.  The rebels are mainly Sunni muslim.  Should they succeed Muslim hegemony is assured, as in Iraq and Egypt where Christians are persecuted, their churches burned or bombed, and the Christians driven out.  So they fear an anti-Christian pogrom should the rebels succeed.  Western nations are fostering this progression.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 12:58:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: fishface42
    The Christians of Syria (10% of the population) are between a rock and a hard place.  The Baathist regime is secular, with liberty of religious expression.  The rebels are mainly Sunni muslim.  Should they succeed Muslim hegemony is assured, as in Iraq and Egypt where Christians are persecuted, their churches burned or bombed, and the Christians driven out.  So they fear an anti-Christian pogrom should the rebels succeed.  Western nations are fostering this progression.


    Jewry is giving the directives to the 'Western' Nations..

    Christians and Muslims lived in peace together there for centuries.

    All of this 'new' violence in Syria, is Jew Mossad and CIA slithering all over Syria creating unrest via killing squads, just as they did in Iraq.


    Divide and Conquer.
    'By Way of Deception, Thou Shall Do War'  -Mossad Motto



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    « Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 06:49:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: JohnChrysostom
    Quote from: fishface42
    The Christians of Syria (10% of the population) are between a rock and a hard place.  The Baathist regime is secular, with liberty of religious expression.  The rebels are mainly Sunni muslim.  Should they succeed Muslim hegemony is assured, as in Iraq and Egypt where Christians are persecuted, their churches burned or bombed, and the Christians driven out.  So they fear an anti-Christian pogrom should the rebels succeed.  Western nations are fostering this progression.


    Jewry is giving the directives to the 'Western' Nations..

    Christians and Muslims lived in peace together there for centuries.

    All of this 'new' violence in Syria, is Jew Mossad and CIA slithering all over Syria creating unrest via killing squads, just as they did in Iraq.


    Divide and Conquer.
    'By Way of Deception, Thou Shall Do War'  -Mossad Motto



    If you are trying to channel St. John Chrysostom, you are doing a dismal job of it.  From the Wikipedia article:

    [edit]Homilies on Jews and Judaizing Christians
    Main article: Adversus Judaeos
    During his first two years as a (priest) in Antioch (386-387), John denounced Jews and Judaizing Christians in a series of eight homilies delivered to Christians in his congregation who were taking part in Jewish festivals and other Jewish observances.[40] It is disputed whether the main target were specifically Judaizers or Jews in general. His homilies were expressed in the conventional manner, utilizing the uncompromising rhetorical form known as the psogos (Greek: blame).
    One of the purposes of these homilies was to prevent Christians from participating in Jewish customs, and thus prevent the perceived erosion of Chrysostom's flock. In his homilies, John criticized those "Judaizing Christians", who were participating in Jewish festivals and taking part in other Jewish observances, such as the shabbat, submitted to circumcision and made pilgrimage to Jewish holy places.[41] John claimed that on the shabbats and Jewish festivals synagogues were full of Christians, especially women, who loved the solemnity of the Jewish liturgy, enjoyed listening to the shofar on Rosh Hashanah, and applauded famous preachers in accordance with the contemporary custom.[42] A more recent theory is that he instead tried to persuade Jewish Christians, who for centuries had kept connections with Jews and Judaism, to choose between Judaism and Christianity.[43]
    In Greek the homilies are called Kata Ioudaiōn (Κατὰ Ιουδαίων), which is translated as Adversus Judaeos in Latin and Against the Jews in English.[44] The original Benedictine editor of the homilies, Bernard de Montfaucon, gives the following footnote to the title: "A discourse against the Jews; but it was delivered against those who were Judaizing and keeping the fasts with them [the Jews]."[45]
    According to Patristics' scholars, opposition to any particular view during the late fourth century was conventionally expressed in a manner, utilizing the rhetorical form known as the psogos, whose literary conventions were to vilify opponents in an uncompromising manner; thus, it has been argued that to call Chrysostom an "anti-Semite" is to employ anachronistic terminology in a way incongruous with historical context and record.[46] That does not, however, prevent one from claiming that Chrysostom's theology was a form of Anti-Jewish supersessionism, or that his rhetoric was not Anti-Judaism.[47]

    Did you get all that?

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    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 07:08:44 PM »
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  • 'How dare Christians have the slightest intercourse with Jews, those most miserable of all men.

    They are lustful, rapacious, greedy, perfidious bandits -- pests of the universe! Indeed, an entire day would not suffice to tell of all their rapine, their avarice, their deception of the poor, their thievery, and their huckstering.

    Are they not inveterate murderers, destroyers, men possessed by the devil? Jews are impure and impious, and their Synagogue is a house of Prostitution, a lair of beasts, a place of shame and ridicule, the domicile of the devil, As is also the Soul of the Jew.

    As a matter of fact, Jews worship the devil: their rites are criminal and unchaste; their religion a disease; their synagogue an assembly of crooks, a den of thieves, a cavern of devils, an abyss of perdition! Why are Jews degenerate? Because of their hateful Assassination of Christ.

    This supreme crime lies at the root of their degradation and woes.
    The rejection and dispersion of the Jews was the work of God, not of emperors. It was done by the wrath of God and because of His absolute abandonment of the Jews.

    Thus, the Jew will live under the yoke of slavery without end.
    God Hates the Jews, and on Judgment Day He will say to those who sympathize with them., "Depart from Me, for you have had intercourse with My murderers!"
    Flee, then, from their assemblies, fly from their houses, and, far from venerating the synagogue, hold it in hatred and aversion.'

    ~ St. John Chrysostom








    Nice try Fish Face.
    I think Im a little more studied than you on this and many topics

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    « Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 07:23:36 PM »
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  • Another from my favorite Saint...



    Well should the Jew mourn who, not believing in Christ, has assigned his soul to perdition...
    The Jews have Crucified the Son and rejected the Holy Ghost, and their Souls are the abode of the Devil.
    ~ St. John Chrysostom





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    « Reply #11 on: July 29, 2012, 07:49:17 AM »
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  • Syria defeats NATO’s swarming terrorists
    http://www.presstv.com/detail/2012/07/27/252979/syria-defeats-natos-terrorists/
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    Last week, the NATO powers launched their long-awaited summer offensive against Syria. This was a multi-pronged effort designed not just to overthrow the government of President Assad, but also to totally disintegrate the existing structures of the Syrian state, dissolving the entire country into chaos, confusion, secession, attempted coups d’état, and a likely massacre of Assad backers, Alawites, Christians, Kurds, and other minority groups.


    This assault peaked between July 18 and July 21. Almost a week later, all indications suggest that Assad, the Baath party, and the Syrian state have proven to be much stronger than the NATO planners had imagined, and that the imperialist attack has been defeated for the time being.

    The easiest way for NATO to destroy independent Syria would be to obtain a UN Security Council resolution authorizing a no-fly zone, a bombing campaign, and incursions by special forces, many of them sent by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the other reactionary Gulf monarchies. But this path has been blocked by the courageous resistance of Russia and China. Another method would be to form a coalition of the willing outside of the United Nations and proceed to the attack, as was done in the cases of Serbia and Iraq. But, with Russian President Vladimir Putin reasserting Russia’s support for Syria, this method poses the risk of Russian and Chinese retaliation in ways which the Anglo-Americans might find extremely painful. Therefore, NATO created a multi-layered strategy to subvert and destroy the Syrian state using covert action below the threshold of bombing and invasion, although including out special forces and espionage.

    The signal to activate the assembled capabilities was given by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on July 8, when she warned Damascus that little time remained to avoid a “catastrophic assault” capable of destroying the Syrian state. This is exactly what was attempted last week.

    First, NATO attempted to isolate Syria by interrupting communications with its traditional ally, Iran. According to the Wall Street Journal of July 23, the United States in particular has exerted pressure on the government of Iraq to deny overflight permission for flights between Syria and Iran through Iraqi airspace. An official US diplomatic demarche delivered in Baghdad demanded that such flights be banned. At the same time, pressure was exerted on the government of Egypt to violate the international status of the Suez Canal by preventing the transit of Iranian ships allegedly headed for Syrian ports. But these efforts have yielded only mixed results, according to this account.

    The main diplomatic thrust of the destabilization effort was yet another UN Security Council resolution opening the door to Chapter Seven economic sanctions and military attack on Syria. This transparent bid for a general war in the Middle East was duly vetoed by Russia and China, while Pakistan and South Africa abstained despite US pressure. United States Ambassador to the UN Susan E. Rice became hysterical, raving that the Russian Federation was “pitiful,” “dangerous,” and “deplorable” after she lost the vote. Hillary Clinton had previously branded Russia as “despicable” and “intolerable.” One imagines these charming ladies chewing the carpet as Hitler reportedly did during the run-up to the Munich conference of September 1938.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov correctly described the US diplomatic posture as “justifying terrorism.” According to Lavrov, the US stance amounted to, “We will continue to support terrorist attacks until the Security Council does what we want.” It would now be in order for Russia and China to propose a Security Council resolution condemning the United States and its allies for giving material support to terrorism.

    The most dramatic single episode of the assault was an apparent explosion on Wednesday, July 18 in one of the main Syrian government buildings which killed Defense Minister Rajha (the top Christian in the government), crisis management director Turkmani, and Assef Shawkat, a military intelligence expert and brother-in-law of President Assad. Interior Minister Shaar was reported wounded, and national security director Ikhtiyar succumbed later to injuries. Western media were quick to gloat, attributing the explosion to a suicide bomber recruited from inside one of the key ministries, but this may reflect an attempt to launch a variation of Operation Splinter Factor among top officials. Other hypotheses include a rocket fired from a US drone. Thierry Meyssan has reported that the explosion was detonated from inside the US Embassy, which is nearby.

    The goal of this attack was clearly the decapitation of the Syrian military and security forces, and of the Syrian state overall. But thanks to the fact that President Assad was not involved, Syria was able to maintain continuity of government and a functioning command structure, which quickly recovered from this staggering blow. Within hours, replacements for the slain officials had been nominated and announced to the public, and a reshuffling of top jobs continued for several days. If NATO had prepared a coup d’état to fill the void, there is no indication that it ever got off the ground.

    So far, the NATO attack on Syria has depended mainly on Salvadoran-style death squads composed mainly of foreign fighters, including al-Qaeda and similar groups, some of which had originated as part of the US counterinsurgency effort in Iraq in 2005, during the tenure in Baghdad of US Ambassador John Negroponte. One of Negroponte’s disciples, Ambassador Robert Ford, was present in Damascus during the pre-2011 preparation of the current assault.

    But, given the inability of the numerically weak death squads to capture and hold even a single town or village, to say nothing of a region of the country, it was decided to recruit and deploy an entirely new echelon of foreign fighters from all over North Africa and the Middle East. These were necessarily mercenaries, fanatics, convicts, and adventurers whose military training and weaponry would be inferior even to those of fighters deployed by NATO so far.

    Their task was to implement a strategy of swarming. In military terms, swarming is the attempt to overwhelm an opponent by a rapid series of attacks from loosely coordinated autonomous groups. Quantity trumps quality. Many thousands of additional fighters were shipped in by NATO; Meyssan puts their numbers between 40,000 and 60,000, but this may be excessive. They crossed Syrian borders with Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon, and Iraqi Kurdistan. The fighters themselves came from Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, and other countries. As they entered Syria from foreign territory, the fighters seized temporary control of several border crossings, a fact much-hyped by the Western press.

    The premise of this irregular assault had been the wishful notion that resistance by the Syrian army would collapse. But the Fourth Armored division, the Republican Guard, and other key units held fast. This left the foreign fighters as sitting ducks in vulnerable positions they could not hope to defend. As of this writing, the foreign fighters have been largely mopped up in Damascus, and another large concentration in Aleppo appears to be surrounded and destined for annihilation. NATO’s pool of cannon fodder has thus been sharply depleted.

    To spread the idea that Syrian resistance had collapsed and that further resistance against NATO was futile, Ben Rhodes of the Obama White House, the US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Saudi Prince Bandar, and other officials had also prepared a campaign of psychological media warfare and video fakery. Syrian state television, al Adounia, and other pro-Syrian broadcasters were to be denied access to Nilesat and Arabsat, and their signals replaced by fake programming generated by the CIA, including with movie sets and Potemkin villages in the Gulf monarchies. But this plan had been revealed many weeks in advance, notably by Meyssan. Accordingly, loyal Syrian broadcasters prepared their audience with public service announcements about what was coming, and how to receive genuine programming.

    Programming on Nilesat and Arabsat was in fact repeatedly interrupted, while the widely hated al Jazeera of Qatar and Saudi al Arabiya reported that Assad had fled. But few were fooled by the crude NATO substitutes, so shock and awe fell flat. A NATO plan to organize a panic run on the Syrian currency, contributing a further dimension of economic and logistical chaos, also fell short.

    As it became clear that the anti-government forces trapped in Damascus were being decimated, King Abdullah of Jordan began harping on the danger that Syrian chemical weapons might be used or get out of control - an established meme of NATO propaganda. NATO was clearly still looking for a pretext to attack, but the eleven Russian warships assigned to Tartus and the eastern Mediterranean left that approach fraught with peril.

    A danger is also emerging for the reactionary feudal monarchs who are NATO’s main allies in the Middle East. Partly as a result of NATO’s incessant pro-democracy rhetoric, the ferment of social protest is now widespread in Saudi Arabia, surely one of the countries most vulnerable to a mass upsurge. On July 22, an explosion occurred at the headquarters of the Saudi intelligence service in Riyadh, killing the deputy director. The target may also have been Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who had just been named intelligence boss, and who is deeply implicated in the Syrian events. Was this somebody’s payback? More importantly, might this attack become the trigger for a mass movement in Saudi Arabia powerful enough to threaten the feudal-reactionary dynasty and the power of the infamous Sudairi clan?

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    « Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 10:34:10 AM »
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  • Quote from: JohnChrysostom
    Christians and Muslims lived in peace together there for centuries.

    All of this 'new' violence in Syria, is Jew Mossad and CIA slithering all over Syria creating unrest via killing squads, just as they did in Iraq.



    Looks like our false-flag planting CIA setup squads have begun to achieve their war.  

    I wonder if the ultimate secular end for these scumbags is to eradicate Christianity in Arabia.
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    « Reply #13 on: July 29, 2012, 06:40:50 PM »
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  • Make no mistake about it.  The true targets of all these Judaic N.A.T.O. and Novus Ordo aggressions in the Middle East are, as ever, the Roman Catholics.  At the heart of all this murder and mayhem is not oil and not even the subtleties of Geopolitics.  At heart what this is all about is simply to kill Christ yet again in the form of His innocent sons and daughters, the Roman Catholics of Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Russia, China, Iran...  (The list is endless.)

    You name it and the Eternal Jew thirsts to shed the blood of the Roman Catholics who live there!  That is what this is truly all about.  The Sons of God are battling the Sons of the Devil, Harmageddon is unleashed and the fate of this world is absolutely literally the stakes now at play.

    If ever there can be such a time, 2012 is THE time to pray for all our Roman Catholic brothers and sisters in Syria and the Middle East:

    SAINT MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL, DEFEND US IN THE BATTLE...

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    « Reply #14 on: July 30, 2012, 08:26:22 AM »
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  • The  fake syrian army is supported by the jew world order and has already been caught  staging alleged atrocitiies  commmiitted by the Syriaan govt. Propaganda is so easy to recogniize by thosee of us who do not stare at a television all day and are actually up to date on worlld events, not just the three sedcond news bites  the msm feeds the people.

     

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