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« on: September 15, 2011, 12:15:21 AM »
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  • Hi all! I recently had an issue on a different Forum because of some prophecies that I posted regarding the Great Catholic Monarch. In order to get more feedback on these prophecies, I would like to post them here to see what you think about them. I also want to know what you think about Ronald L. Conte and his predictions regarding the Great Catholic Monarch.


    "A Frankish King will one day rule over the entire Roman Empire." (Augustine, 5th Century)
    "The sixth period (of time) will begin with the powerful Monarch." (Ven. B. Holzhauser, 17th Century)
    "... a King of the House of Lilies (France)..." (Cataldus, 5th Century)
    "The White Flower again takes possession of the Throne of France." (Hildegarde, German Abbess, 12th Century)
    "In his childhood he will be like a saint; in his youth a great sinner; then he will be converted entirely to God and will do great penance; his sins shall be forgiven him, and he shall become a great saint." (Francis of Paola, 15th Century)
    "Greece he will invade and be made King thereof." (Cataldus, 5th Century)
    "He will regain Holy Land after terrible wars in Europe." (Telesphorus de Cozensa, 11th Century)" ... away shall drive the strange race Arabic." (Nostradamus)
    "The Great Monarch ... will conquer the (Middle) East." (Pareus, 17th Century)
    "The Eagle (United States) will also invade the Mohammedan countries." (Bridget, 14th Century
    )"He shall subdue to his dominion the Mohammedan Empire" (Gekner, 17th Century)
    "He will crush the foes of Christianity." (Methodius, 4th Century)"He will put out all heresies." (Merlin the Bard, 7th Century)
    "He shall be a great captain." (Francis of Paola, 15th Century)
    "The Great Monarch will be at war till the age of forty." (Cataldus)
    "He will go through all Europe with a powerful army, uproot every Republic, and exterminate all rebels." (Gekner, 17th Century)
    "France shall first be yoked by this King. Britain shall humbly cast herself at his knees. Italy...will contribute to him her languishing right hand." (Sibylla Tiburtina)
    "There will rise in Gaul a King of the Greeks, the Franks and the Romans." (Liber Mirabilis, 16th Century, quoting an old prophecy)
    "He will join the Lion and the White Flower." (i.e. unite England and France). (Orval, 13th Century)
    " ... by whom the ancient glory of the Empire shall be restored." "He shall be Emperor of Europe." (Aystinger)
    "A King shall come and act contrariwise, the high pulled down and the low raised up high."(Nostradamus)
    "He will restore everything." (Holzhauser)
    "Peace will return when the Lily ascends the Throne again. The land will be very productive."(Hildegarde)
    "Many wise laws will restore peace."(Orval)
    "An era of prosperity follows." (Lehnin)
    "And the earth shall enjoy peace and prosperity."(Bridget)
    "This shall re-establish a peace and prosperity without precedent."(John-Mary Vianney, Cur‚ of Ars, 19th Century)
     

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    « Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 12:18:10 AM »
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  • Welcome, I don't have time to search for it at the moment, but I have a thread buried somewhere on this forum on this very topic. Not sure if it really got anywhere. I am also interested in the Prophecies of the Great Monarch, I believe there a few others aswell.


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    « Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 12:39:48 AM »
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  • Thanks! How do you feel about Ronald L. Conte?

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    « Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 12:48:02 AM »
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  • i love to read about these catholic prophecies. though i often have that nagging feeling that my attraction to them due to finding it difficult to see god's grace and goodness at work in the world. i think the challenge is to see god in everything.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 06:26:11 AM »
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  • I think Ron Conte is relatively unimportant, considering that he's just some layman who claims to be a theologian, which he isn't by a long shot.  His interpetations of the prophecies are truly bizarre and show a lack of familiarity with history and law.  Firstly, I want to point out that the thought that "the Eagle" refers to the United States is ridiculous, since the US could never participte in any Catholic order.  Only a Américain would consider it possible that "the Eagle" refers to his accursed country; it is far more likely that it refers to the King himself.  Secondly, the iea that the Monarch will be a Habsburg is absurd on its face, since the Monarch will be the King of France, and anybody besides a Bourbon ascending to the throne of lilies would be plainly illegal.  France fought for one hundred thirty years over the exact question of the succession of the Capetian dynasty, and strict agnatic primogeniture ís the fundamental law of succession without any ambiguity.  In fact, even Heaven became involved, sending Ste. Jeanne d'Arc to "uphold the blood royal."  No, the Monarch will be the lawfully succeeding heir to the Crown of France, the most glorious Kingdom on earth besides Our Lord's own Kingdom, His Mystical Body.  Furthermore, the King will be a Bourbon and, in accordance with the prophecies of Marie-Julie Jahenny, the descendant of the holy martyrs Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette through the line of the Lost Dauphin, Louis XVII.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 10:14:46 AM »
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  • Quote from: PereJoseph
    Firstly, I want to point out that the thought that "the Eagle" refers to the United States is ridiculous, since the US could never participte in any Catholic order.  Only a Américain would consider it possible that "the Eagle" refers to his accursed country; it is far more likely that it refers to the King himself.


    I second that, though I'm more inclined to think the Eagle is in reference to a particular country or perhaps even a noble family. Besides, it is needless to say that there are numerous other countries that have been represented by an eagle at some point in time.
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    « Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 01:33:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: PereJoseph
    I think Ron Conte is relatively unimportant, considering that he's just some layman who claims to be a theologian, which he isn't by a long shot.  His interpetations of the prophecies are truly bizarre and show a lack of familiarity with history and law.  Firstly, I want to point out that the thought that "the Eagle" refers to the United States is ridiculous, since the US could never participte in any Catholic order.  Only a Américain would consider it possible that "the Eagle" refers to his accursed country; it is far more likely that it refers to the King himself.  Secondly, the iea that the Monarch will be a Habsburg is absurd on its face, since the Monarch will be the King of France, and anybody besides a Bourbon ascending to the throne of lilies would be plainly illegal.  France fought for one hundred thirty years over the exact question of the succession of the Capetian dynasty, and strict agnatic primogeniture ís the fundamental law of succession without any ambiguity.  In fact, even Heaven became involved, sending Ste. Jeanne d'Arc to "uphold the blood royal."  No, the Monarch will be the lawfully succeeding heir to the Crown of France, the most glorious Kingdom on earth besides Our Lord's own Kingdom, His Mystical Body.  Furthermore, the King will be a Bourbon and, in accordance with the prophecies of Marie-Julie Jahenny, the descendant of the holy martyrs Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette through the line of the Lost Dauphin, Louis XVII.


    Thank you for your thoughts. Is it possible that the Great Monarch could be American? Considering there is French Royalty in Quebec?

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    « Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 08:48:16 PM »
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  • Quote from: InfiniteFaith
    Quote from: PereJoseph
    I think Ron Conte is relatively unimportant, considering that he's just some layman who claims to be a theologian, which he isn't by a long shot.  His interpetations of the prophecies are truly bizarre and show a lack of familiarity with history and law.  Firstly, I want to point out that the thought that "the Eagle" refers to the United States is ridiculous, since the US could never participte in any Catholic order.  Only a Américain would consider it possible that "the Eagle" refers to his accursed country; it is far more likely that it refers to the King himself.  Secondly, the iea that the Monarch will be a Habsburg is absurd on its face, since the Monarch will be the King of France, and anybody besides a Bourbon ascending to the throne of lilies would be plainly illegal.  France fought for one hundred thirty years over the exact question of the succession of the Capetian dynasty, and strict agnatic primogeniture ís the fundamental law of succession without any ambiguity.  In fact, even Heaven became involved, sending Ste. Jeanne d'Arc to "uphold the blood royal."  No, the Monarch will be the lawfully succeeding heir to the Crown of France, the most glorious Kingdom on earth besides Our Lord's own Kingdom, His Mystical Body.  Furthermore, the King will be a Bourbon and, in accordance with the prophecies of Marie-Julie Jahenny, the descendant of the holy martyrs Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette through the line of the Lost Dauphin, Louis XVII.


    Thank you for your thoughts. Is it possible that the Great Monarch could be American? Considering there is French Royalty in Quebec?


    Quebecois are Canadian not American, but I get what you mean they could move to the US.

    One thing to point out, is that ANY Branch of ANY European Monarchial line has descent from Charlemaigne. Could be anyone.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 02:40:49 AM »
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  • There's a famous catholic visionary poem in German language named "Lied der Linde" (Song of the Lime Tree). It's been found in a massive lime tree over 100 years ago and it kind of summarises what the most well known catholic visions in German language say, concerning our past, the presence and the near future.
    It also mentions the "great catholic emperor" who, according to this poem, will be crowned by the Pope in a big Cathedral after the Big Chastisement. Many think it could be the Cologne Cathedral.

    Since the "Lied of the Linde"'s consonance of words is artful, I'd like to post it in its original German language and hope that somebody knows an English translation?



    Das Lied der Linde
    vor 1900

    Vorwort: Das Kernstück der Weissagung ist zweifellos aus der Zeit vor 1900 überliefert. Eine Untersuchung des Papiers ergab das Jahr 1850. Das Lied von der Linde, aus der Stadt Staffelstein (Passau), könnte aber sogar auf Bartholomäus Holzhauser in das Jahr 1650 zurückgehen :


    Großer Kaiser Karl, in Rom geweiht,
    Eckstein sollst du bleiben deutscher Zeit,
    Hundertsechzig, sieben Jahre Frist,
    Deutschland bis ins Mark getroffen ist.

    Fremden Völkern front dein Sohn als Knecht,
    Tut und läßt, was ihren Sklaven recht,
    Grausam hat zerrissen Feindeshand
    Eines Blutes, einer Sprache Band.

    Zehre, Magen, zehr vom deutschen Saft,
    Bis mit einmal endet deine Kraft,
    Krankt das Herz, siecht ganzer Körper hin,
    Deutschlands Elend ist der Welt Ruin.

    Ernten schwinden, doch die Kriege nicht,
    Und der Bruder gegen Bruder ficht,
    Mit der Sens’ und Schaufel sich bewehrt,
    Wenn verloren Flint’ und Schwert.

    Arme werden reich des Geldes rasch,
    Doch der rasche Reichtum wird zu Asch’,
    Mahnwort fällt auf Wüstensand,
    Hörer findet nur der Unverstand.

    Da die Herrscherthrone abgeschafft,
    Wird das Herrschen Spiel und Leidenschaft,
    Bis der Tag kommt, wo sich glaubt verdammt,
    Wer berufen wird zu einem Amt.

    Wer die meisten Sünden hat,
    Fühlt als Richter sich und höchster Rat.
    Raucht das Blut, wird wilder nur das Tier,
    Raub zur Arbeit wird und Mord zur Gier.

    Rom zerhaut wie Vieh die Priesterschar,
    Schonet nicht den Greis im Silberhaar.
    Über Leichen muß der Höchste fliehn
    Und verfolgt von Ort zu Orte ziehn.

    Gottverlassen scheint er, ist es nicht,
    Felsenfest im Glauben, treu der Pflicht,
    Leistet auch in Not er nicht Verzicht,
    Bringt den Gottesstreit vors nah’ Gericht.

    Strafe kommt, drei Tage Finsternis,
    Blitz und Donner und der Erde Riß,
    Bet’ daheim, verlasse nicht das Haus!
    Auch am Fenster schaue nicht den Graus!

    Eine Kerze gibt die ganze Zeit allein,
    Sofern sie brennen will, dir Schein.
    Gift’ger Odem dringt aus Staubesnacht,
    Schwarze Seuche, schlimmste Menschenschlacht.

    Gleiches allen Erdgebor’nen droht,
    Doch die Guten sterben sel’gen Tod.
    Viel Getreue blieben wunderbar
    Frei von Atemkrampf und Pestgefahr.

    Eine große Stadt der Schlamm verschlingt,
    Eine andre mit dem Feuer ringt,
    Alle Städte werden totenstill,
    Auf dem Wiener Stephansplatz wächst Dill.

    Zählst du alle Menschen auf der Welt,
    Wirst du finden, daß ein Drittel fehlt,
    Was noch übrig, schau in jedes Land,
    Hat zur Hälft’ verloren den Verstand.

    Wie im Sturm ein steuerloses Schiff,
    Preisgegeben einem jeden Riff,
    Schwankt herum der Eintags-Herrscherschwarm,
    Macht die Bürger ärmer noch als arm.

    Denn des Elends einz’ger Hoffnungsstern
    Eines bessern Tags ist endlos fern.
    „Heiland, sende, den du senden mußt!“
    Tönt es angstvoll aus der Menschen Brust.
    Nimmt die Erde plötzlich andern Lauf,
    Steigt ein neuer Hoffnungsstern herauf?
    „Alles ist verloren!“ hier’s noch klingt,
    „Alles ist gerettet“, Wien schon singt.

    Ja vom Osten kommt der starke Held,
    Ordnung bringend der verwirrten Welt.
    Weiße Blumen um das Herz des Herrn,
    Seinem Rufe folgt der Wackre gern.

    Alle Störer er zu Paaren treibt,
    Deutschem Reiche deutsches Recht er schreibt,
    Bunter Fremdling, unwillkommner Gast,
    Flieh die Flur, die du gepflügt nicht hast.

    Gottes Held, ein unzertrennlich Band
    Schmiedest du um alles deutsche Land.
    Den Verbannten führest du nach Rom,
    Große Kaiserweihe schaut ein Dom.

    Preis dem einundzwanzigsten Konzil,
    Das den Völkern weist ihr höchstes Ziel,
    Und durch strengen Lebenssatz verbürgt,
    Daß nun reich und arm sich nicht mehr würgt.

    Deutscher Nam’, du littest schwer,
    Wieder glänzt um dich die alte Ehr’,
    Wächst um den verschlung’nen Doppelast,
    Dessen Schatten sucht gar mancher Gast.

    Wenn der engelgleiche Völkerhirt’
    Wie Antonius zum Wandrer wird,
    Den Verirrten barfuß Predigt hält,
    Neuer Frühling lacht der ganzen Welt.

    Alle Kirchen einig und vereint,
    Einer Herde einz’ger Hirt erscheint.
    Halbmond mählich weicht dem Kreuze ganz,
    Schwarzes Land erstrahlt im Glaubensglanz.

    Reiche Ernten schau’ ich jedes Jahr,
    Weiser Männer eine große Schar,
    Seuch’ und Kriegen ist die Welt entrückt,
    Wer die Zeit erlebt, ist hochbeglückt.

    Dieses kündet deutschem Mann und Kind
    Leidend mit dem Land die alte Lind’,
    Daß der Hochmut mach’ das Maß nicht voll,
    Der Gerechte nicht verzweifeln soll!

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    « Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 04:05:31 AM »
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  • What on Earth is that poem?  First of all, it is very Germano-centric, not Francophile.  But the Three Days of Darkness are in there and everything.  How are we to know this wasn't invented later?  

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    « Reply #10 on: September 17, 2011, 04:08:17 AM »
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  • Can someone translate it? Mein Nein Sprecken zie Deutche or whatever :P


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    « Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 04:15:58 AM »
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  • I would try to translate it, but certain stanzas are totally lost on me.  I guess my German is rusty.  If you are German, Ethelred, why don't you do it, your English is surely better than my German...

    "Großer Kaiser Karl, in Rom geweiht,
    Eckstein sollst du bleiben deutscher Zeit,
    Hundertsechzig, sieben Jahre Frist,
    Deutschland bis ins Mark getroffen ist.

    I won't even try to make it rhyme:  

    "The Great King Karl, anointed in Rome,
    You will be the cornerstone of a Germanic era
    One hundred and seven years have gone by,
    Since Germany has been pierced to the marrow."

    What is that supposed to mean?  The Great Monarch is the successor of Hitler?  
    He will probably come about that long after Hitler...  This poem is a little suspicious, my friend!

    The second stanza makes no sense to me, can you translate it?

    Fremden Völkern front dein Sohn als Knecht,
    Tut und läßt, was ihren Sklaven recht,
    Grausam hat zerrissen Feindeshand
    Eines Blutes, einer Sprache Band."

    "Foreign peoples treat your son as a servant
    Your slaves do to him what they like
    How gruesomely the hand of the enemy has destroyed
    This bloom, that unites those bonded by our language.

     Sorry, Ethelred, the Great Monarch is French!  But he will have some German blood, I think.
     


     
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    « Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 07:58:05 AM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul
    I would try to translate it, but certain stanzas are totally lost on me. I guess my German is rusty. If you are German, Ethelred, why don't you do it, your English is surely better than my German...

    Thank you Raoul for your efforts.
    It's difficult to translate the Lime Tree Poem, because it's written in dense, old German language like in the times of poets like Friedrich Schiller. Also partly it's mystical and so every syllable counts. I'll search for a translation...

    The Lime Tree Poem matches extremely well with visions from many other well known (Austrian-) German catholic visionaries, like the Bavarian catholic Alois Irlmaier (1894 - 1959).
    I've studied Irlmaier fairly well because he's probably one of the most closely examined visionaries of the modern times, and there's solid evidence and witnesses for his texts. Also the interpretations of his visions are well-engineered by now. He virtually did foresee countless of events or things which then occurred later in his life, which gives his visions an impressive underlining.
    Irlmaier's most famous and terrificly detailed vision however is World War III (started with a Russian & Chinese attack on Europe and USA) ended some months later by the Three Dark Days and a big Cross of Our Lord in the sky, according to Irlmaier. He also saw that in that time much more people would die than in World War I and II together.

    Anyway, I find the Lime Tree Poem to be highly compatible with Irlmaier. I say this because it underlines the potential correctness of the Lime Tree Poem.

    Well, there's nothing suspicious about this poem. There's evidence that it dates back to 1850 so it was there decades before Irlmaier (and any World War). Could Irlmaier have used the poem as base for his visions? Hardly, because his visions are so much more detailed, so it's clear the Poem is not the source of what Irlmaier foresaw.

    Why am I boring you readers with Irlmaier? Because I think he's the most important and most detailed foreseer in the German-speaking area of the recent past, and indeed most older German-speaking traditional catholics from Austria and the Federal Republic of Germany's southern part know about him, including SSPX priests.


    So in my next posting I'd like to pick up your paragraph from the Lime Tree Poem, and then my favourite one about the 21st Council please. :-)


    P.S.
    Quote from: Raoul
    Sorry, Ethelred, the Great Monarch is French! But he will have some German blood, I think.

    I think it's well possible that there's a great King coming in France, too! Indeed I hope so. I'm not so fond with the French visionaries however, but the German-speaking ones because for me as an Austrian they're in my mother-language.

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    « Reply #13 on: September 17, 2011, 08:20:32 AM »
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  • Quote from: Lime Tree Poem
    Großer Kaiser Karl, in Rom geweiht,
    Eckstein sollst du bleiben deutscher Zeit,
    Hundertsechzig, sieben Jahre Frist,
    Deutschland bis ins Mark getroffen ist.


    Let's use your (=Raoul's) translation, plus a few corrections:

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    Emperor Karolus Magnus (=Charlemagne, Karl der Große) anointed in Rome,
    You will stay the cornerstone of the Germanic age
    One hundred and sixty, seven years period,
    Germany be touched to the quick.


    The comma is important in the German language and usually divides two separate (half-) sentences.
    So we've to read: "160" and "7" years separately. Hardly it means the number 167. Aside it 167 makes absolutely no sense.
    The best interpretation I came across and which makes the most sense, is the comma standing for multiply, i.e. to take 160 for 7 times = 1120 years. This result is the most logic one, because St. Charlemagne was anointed in Rome in the year 800, and adding 1120 to it results in the year 1920. This is the end of World War I (minus two, but that shouldn't matter).

    Indeed 1920 or 1918 was the point when Hungary-Austria of blessed emperor Karl I (1887 - 1922) as the juridical follower of the Holy Roman Empire was prostrated and cut into peaces, i.e. "touched to the quick" !
    (I don't want to bore the French readers, but in the Lime Tree Poem which dates back to the emperor's time, the expression "Germany" means the catholic Holy Roman Empire (Reich) of the German Nation which is not the nation named Federal Republic of Germany, and also not the Prussian protestant Bismark's or apostate Hitler's pseudo-"Reich".)

    The Enemies of Christ needed World War I in order to destroy the catholic Europe.


    Let's come to the Poem's theologically interesting part:
    Quote from: Lime Tree Peom
    Preis dem einundzwanzigsten Konzil,
    Das den Völkern weist ihr höchstes Ziel,
    Und durch strengen Lebenssatz verbürgt,
    Daß nun reich und arm sich nicht mehr würgt.

    Roughly translated to
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    Glory to the twenty-first council,
    Which shows to the peoples their highest goal,
    And guaranteed with strong doctrine,
    So now rich and poor doesn't fight each other anymore


    Now let's remember that the heretical Vaticanum II is also numbered the 21st "council". So, in case the Lime Tree Poem from around 1850 would come true, this means that the Vaticanum II will be erased completely.



    Finally, let's not forget the Poem's paragraph about the consequences of the three Dark Days word-wide, to see what the erasure of the Vaticanum II will actually cost :
    Quote from: Lime Tree Poem
    Zählst du alle Menschen auf der Welt,
    Wirst du finden, daß ein Drittel fehlt,
    Was noch übrig, schau in jedes Land,
    Hat zur Hälft’ verloren den Verstand.

    Roughly translated to
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    If you count all the people in the world,
    You'll see that one third is missing (i.e. dead),
    Look at every country to see those who remain,
    But half of them will have lost their mind


    So in the end one third of the world's population will be dead, one third mad (and then die?) and one third survive. According to this poem.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 17, 2011, 10:24:09 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ethelred
    Glory to the twenty-first council,
    Which shows to the peoples their highest goal,
    And guaranteed with strong doctrine,
    So now rich and poor doesn't fight each other anymore


    Third sentence is wrong, it should rather translate to:
    "And guaranteed through hard lifestyle,"

    Maybe, but I'm not sure.
    You see, translating this poem is difficult. And I am no translator. :-)

     

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