[katholikos]

Note from the Moderator:

It is not known to those who merely watched the video, but the woman who "asked if she could attend the Novus Ordo" was actually on the point of tears she was so emotional. She insisted that she had found a priest who was reverent and devout, and she was morally certain that the Blessed Sacrament was being confected during the Masses she attended.

That is the background for the Bishop's answer.

The controversy surrounding his response touches on the most basic elements of the Crisis in the Church: The status of the New Mass, etc. which is why sedevacantists attack +Williamson for his answer. Sedevacantists have been attacking +Williamson for the past 40 years -- what else is new?
Trads have been disagreeing about the Novus Ordo Mass for 45 years now.

Also -- the controversy and arguments surrounding +W's statement are PROOF of what he talked about during the rest of his conference: namely, that Authority and Truth have been divorced, and it is causing confusion among the Faithful. Please listen to the REST of his conference -- it was very good. So was his sermon during Confirmations.

His conference on Authority and Truth was very good, and is being buried by all this controversy about one lady's request for a dispensation to attend the Novus Ordo. We are letting Sedevacantists direct and frame the debate. I have to say, that is a loss for Tradition.




Please do not post any more trash from the bitter zeal-filled, angry Sedevacantists at Novus Ordo Watch.

They waste their God-given time trolling the Vatican looking for the 5,244,094th piece of evidence that "Yes, there is a Crisis in the Church" hoping to eventually find the Holy Grail or "straw that broke the camel's back" which will cause 99% of Trads to fall over like dominoes into Sedevacantism.

Like the devil, they operate on the maxims of "Misery loves company" and "Better to destroy than to build up."

Bp. Williamson was asked if one could go to the New Mass if it's reverent, etc.

[MaterDominici]

No point in commenting unless you've listened to the whole thing ... he revisits the topic multiple times.

[katholikos]

OK, so are you saying that I need to listen to over an hour more of this to understand it better? I'm afraid to.

[MaterDominici]

OK, so are you saying that I need to listen to over an hour more of this to understand it better? I'm afraid to.

I would. It's not 2 hours. You can skip ahead to the Q&A. I just wouldn't trust any version other than the original if you really want to know what he said and didn't say.

[CathMomof7]

I listened to the original.  Honestly, I thought he was being wishy-washy at first, but then he began to talk about it in terms of SSPX.  Much of what he said seemed, to me, like he didn't want to hurt the lady's feelings.  He did a lot of Archbishop Levebre says......  But very little yes or no.
He seemed to be using the opportunity to tell people that they did not necessarily  have to stop going to SSPX Masses because the situation wasn't all that bad, yet.  With that I agree.  With the former regarding Novus Ordo, I do not.

At first I thought it odd that an SSPX goer would even go to Novus Ordo, but I have experienced this myself with several people I know.  I found this very peculiar at first, but then I realized that these people simply have a preference for the "Latin" Mass and most don't really see that much difference as long as the "New Mass" is reverent or they believe the priests have "proper intentions."

When I asked the same question when I attended SSPX, I was told basically this:  "The Mass is food.  Novus Ordo is still food---it's like junk food, but still food, and still nourishes you.  SSPX is better food."  Yes, this is what I was told by a priest and by several lay people.  I am quite certain I stood in amazement at this analogy.

As for me, I will never step foot inside a NO Mass again, unless I have to go for someones funeral or possibly a baptism.  I doubt I would even go for a wedding.

My husband and I have taken this matter up with our own priest.  He believes that, considering the situation and the magnitude of this crisis, that Our Lord gives us graces to make it through with limited access to the Sacraments.  He knows the situation, and thus, in His Love and Mercy, He provides for us.   We are only able to get to Mass once or twice a month.  The times we are home, we read the Mass and pray our Rosary.