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Fr. David Hewko Says No to Neo-SSPX Masses
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2013, 08:51:01 AM »
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  • This is nuts. Resistance Masses are few and far between, but we are meant to avoid what Padre Pio said was more necessary for us than the sun, when we can have it on a daily basis? No! God bless Father Hewko, he is a good priest, but in this, he is wrong, in my opinion.

    When I think of all the people in the history of the world and even today who do not have the opportunity to attend daily Mass and whose souls were/are starving for it, and we are told to walk away from Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament?

    A recent article demonstrating the fact that even in a novus ordo Mass, there was a valid consecration and resultant Eucharistic miracle, should likewise demonstrate that if Our Lord condescends to come on to the novus ordo altar, it is because He wants to be received and loved by greater numbers. We need more Holy Communions, not less.

    To me it is looking more and more like this split is moved by the same old reason all of the previous ones were...the ripping of souls away from the source of life. We should all be attending daily Mass, whenever possible. We are heading into very bad times and we will need that strength. I have attended several Masses with sermons from the SSPX recently and all this talk of the SSPX "going off the rails" has not been reflected in any of them.

    Do not let anything separate you from the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Without it, you and your children (the children especially) will slip into the paganism that is surrounding us all. Take advantage while you can, there will probably come a time when you will not have the opportunity anymore. We can offer these Holy Communions that the Triumph of Her Immaculate Heart will come sooner than later.


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    Fr. David Hewko Says No to Neo-SSPX Masses
    « Reply #2 on: September 10, 2013, 09:41:19 AM »
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  • With all due respect, Azul, be patient. The next couple of months could hold some very big surprises for all of us.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    Fr. David Hewko Says No to Neo-SSPX Masses
    « Reply #3 on: September 10, 2013, 10:29:04 AM »
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  • Quote from: Azul
    A recent article demonstrating the fact that even in a novus ordo Mass, there was a valid consecration and resultant Eucharistic miracle, should likewise demonstrate that if Our Lord condescends to come on to the novus ordo altar, it is because He wants to be received and loved by greater numbers. We need more Holy Communions, not less.


    What article?

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    Fr. David Hewko Says No to Neo-SSPX Masses
    « Reply #5 on: September 10, 2013, 11:36:54 AM »
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  • When the liturgical revolution started in the beginning of the 20th century, the masonic heretics who were in place to destroy the Church, all said the TLM.  It's the faith that comes first.  St. Hermenigeld wouldn't even go to a heretic for communion or confession and he was put to death for not compromising.  We can do no less!
    Amen quippe dico vobis donec transeat caelum et terra iota unum aut unus apex non praeteribit a lege donec omnia fiant  (For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. )

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    Fr. David Hewko Says No to Neo-SSPX Masses
    « Reply #6 on: September 10, 2013, 11:45:53 AM »
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    When the liturgical revolution started in the beginning of the 20th century, the masonic heretics who were in place to destroy the Church, all said the TLM.  It's the faith that comes first.  St. Hermenigeld wouldn't even go to a heretic for communion or confession and he was put to death for not compromising.  We can do no less!


    Are all SSPX priests Masonic heretics?

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    « Reply #7 on: September 10, 2013, 12:05:16 PM »
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  • I love Fr. Hewko, and respect him dearly. Though I have not yet heard the recording ( I would appreciate someone outlining his major points), I have yet to see a valid argument for staying away from SSPX masses, so for the time being I cannot agree to this.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 10, 2013, 01:21:38 PM »
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  • I just listened to the recording. I didn't realize it was a very short excerpt. I still disagree. Again, this may not be the case for everyone- some families should indeed stay home because of circumstances in their specific parish. But it is not the same everywhere.

    I will not support the SSPX financially, but I have not found a reason to keep my family away from mass as of yet. I don't think those lines should be blurred.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 10, 2013, 01:40:25 PM »
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    When the liturgical revolution started in the beginning of the 20th century, the masonic heretics who were in place to destroy the Church, all said the TLM.  It's the faith that comes first.  St. Hermenigeld wouldn't even go to a heretic for communion or confession and he was put to death for not compromising.  We can do no less!


    St Hermenigeld lived in a time when we had a valid pope and valid magesterium to make judgements on who were  heretics.

    We now have an invalid pope and and invalid magisterium who has not and cannot make judgements on who are heretics.  

    The SSPX  and other trad groups were formed to preserve tradition.  We are considered "heretics " by the Conciliar church

    If St Hermenigeld were alive today, I  am sure  he would stay away from communion with the modern Church,  but I suspect he would go to the masses of the Neo SSPX.  The neo SSPX has not changed their masses.    

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    Fr. David Hewko Says No to Neo-SSPX Masses
    « Reply #10 on: September 10, 2013, 01:45:23 PM »
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  • I would go to a resistance Mass if I could, but I have yet to have the opportunity. I don't consider the SSPX Mass to be a danger to the faith and since it is still a true Mass with true priests, I continue to attend Mass there even though I have disagreements with Fellay.
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    « Reply #11 on: September 10, 2013, 01:54:04 PM »
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  • If the SSPX priest believes and teaches erroneous (read:heretical) things, then absolutely one should stay away.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    « Reply #12 on: September 10, 2013, 02:22:35 PM »
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    If the SSPX priest believes and teaches erroneous (read:heretical) things, then absolutely one should stay away.

    I have never heard any heresies at my SSPX chapel (at least nothing I recognized as heresy). I must be lucky because I have read heretical things said by SSPX priests on the internet. But my priest was never Father Themann who says that most Freemasons don't sin in joining Freemasonry.
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    « Reply #13 on: September 10, 2013, 02:24:25 PM »
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    If the SSPX priest believes and teaches erroneous (read:heretical) things, then absolutely one should stay away.

    I have never heard any heresies at my SSPX chapel. But my priest was never Father Themann who says that most Freemasons don't sin in joining Freemasonry.


    And also asks "What is a missal?" when asked about Quo Primum's infallibility.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    Fr. David Hewko Says No to Neo-SSPX Masses
    « Reply #14 on: September 10, 2013, 04:08:53 PM »
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  • For a more thorough explanation of why one ought not to assist at neo-SSPX Masses:

    http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2013/08/24/the-sspx-is-in-the-same-theological-boat-as-the-fssp/

     

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