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Letter from Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson
« on: October 13, 2011, 05:54:16 PM »
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  • http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2011/10/letter-from-bishop-fellay-to-bishop.html


    Letter from SSPX Superior General Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson
    Letter from Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson

    23 September, 2011

    Your Excellency,

    I would be happy to invite you to the SSPX Superiors’ meeting to be held in Albano early in October, as the nature and composition of the meeting has been somewhat changed because of current events. I would also be happy to send you a text from Rome to which they want a reply. However, I find myself obliged to attach conditions to each of these points.

    Firstly, as to the text, I ask of you an oath in writing that you will communicate to nobody either the text or its content. Too often in the past you have lacked discretion, so I am obliged to submit you to a procedure of this kind, which I am not happy to have to do.

    Secondly, as to the meeting in Albano, I can only invite you to attend insofar as you stop publishing Eleison Comments. You have already been given the reason several times, as you have been given the order to stop. You considered that for the sake of the preaching and defence of the Faith you needed pay no attention, on the pretext that nobody had the right to stop a bishop from fulfilling his duty to preach and defend the Faith. But such preaching and defence of the Faith are inserted in concrete circumstances which may well call for superiors to intervene. Besides, no other bishop of the SSPX publishes a circular letter and considers himself thereby hindered from expressing himself.

    Moreover the consequences of your attitude are harmful to the SSPX: you ooze distrust towards SSPX headquarters and the Superior General. You cannot help yourself communicating this feeling to those around you. No revolution could do a better job of undermining authority… and this you do in the name of a supposed possible betrayal on the part of the Superior General… That is very serious.

    Especially when a certain number of indications show that your action is not confined to theory:

    1 To an Argentinian priest from the Novus Ordo who asks for your advice, you recommend that he should not join the SSPX.

    2 To an American layman you write that the apostasy of the mainstream Church is farther advanced than that of the SSPX. How can you write such things, false and unjust, against the Society of which you are still a member?

    3 There exists in Anglo-saxon circles a network of infiltrators of the SSPX preparing a break-away. You are put forward as the head of this movement, you are the friend of its leaders and you are playing their game.

    And you talk to us of being double tongued! As for the unity of the SSPX, the one most putting it in danger is yourself, your Excellency! Always in the name of defense of the Faith. In such a grave moment as the confrontation now taking place between ourselves and the Holy See, the outcome of which will be decisive for our own future and not without consequences for the entire Church, I ask you then, once more, to remain silent until further orders. If you were to refuse to heed this directive, it would mean both your not being invited to the Albano meeting and the starting of the canonical procedure leading to exclusion from the SSPX. So I await your reply.

    All of this is most sad, and it has nothing to do with the confrontation just mentioned, whatever you may think. The loss of one of its bishops is one of the worst things that could happen to the SSPX. It depends entirely on you to spare it such a misfortune. Do believe, your Excellency, in my fervent prayers to the Sacred Heart of Jesus,
    BpF.

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    Letter from Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson
    « Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 06:25:39 PM »
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  • "Infiltrators" do not attempt to breakaway.  They attempt to subvert from within.

    The SSPX is being led by infiltrators trying to lead it to abandon its mission given to it by Archbishop Lefebvre.  Those who remain faithful to the mission of the Archbishop are not the infiltrators.  No, the infiltrators are those who betray his mission.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 06:41:15 PM »
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  • Is this another cleaning out the stables operation? Who are these "infiltrators"? An "Anglo-Saxon circle" would give us some hope.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 06:41:29 PM »
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  • There are here three possibilities:

    1) The letter is not authentic;

    2) The letter was leaked by Bishop Williamson himself (which will have swift and dire consequences);

    3) The letter was leaked by Bishop Fellay to cast Bishop Williamson in the light of grave disobedience.

    Unfortunately, #2 seems most likely to me.

    If so, His Excellency has fallen into the Jews' trap: He will be expelled, the future SSPX under the direction of Maximillian Krah....uh....I mean Bishop Fellay, will become toothless and self-censured; Campos-style.

    The world just became a much darker place for me.

    Not sure what to do.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-


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    « Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 07:20:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: curiouscatholic23
    Is this a joke? Who made this public? Did Bishop Wiliamson end up attending the meeting?


    Bishop Williamson was not at the meeting.

    I believe he would have been willing to take an oath that the letter not be made public until Bishop Fellay took final action on the letter.  I don't think Bishop Williamson would have been indiscrete.  But I see absolutely no evidence that Bishop Williamson is willing to stop publishing his weekly "sermon", nor should he.  

    Bishop Fellay was willing to have Bishop Williamson at the meeting provided Bishop Williamson completely withdraw from all contact with the faithful.  

    Of course, my analysis is predicated on the authenticity of the letter.  I don't know if it is authentic.


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    « Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 07:36:20 PM »
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  • Moderators:

       I don't know what your thoughts on Bishop Williamson are, but I would sure like to see his voice remain within the SSPX.

       IF YOU DON'T REMOVE THIS LETTER SOON, HE IS TOAST!

    PS: to Pinnay: You are an idiot!
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-


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    « Reply #6 on: October 13, 2011, 07:48:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphim

    The world just became a much darker place for me.

    Not sure what to do.



    Not true, Seraphim. The CMRI is always open and welcoming Catholics into their pews. You will face no contradiction in thought there, about doctrine or Traditional teaching.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 13, 2011, 07:57:48 PM »
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  • Apparenty the Moderators on this forum prefer the expulsion of Bishop Williamson, and therefore choose to leave this thread intact?

    If so, you are deceived about being able to have Bishop Williamson promote sedevacantism if (or now, when) he gets expelled.

    Your treachery will yield you no benefit.

    You have only weakened tradition this noght.

    Nothing more.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-



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    Letter from Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson
    « Reply #8 on: October 13, 2011, 07:59:02 PM »
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  •  Half my family was confirmed by Bishop Williamson, and the other half by Bishop Fellay, and one lonesome to Bishop Tissier. I have been to the seminary(to visit) and met them there also.  

    May the Lord keep safe and united the Bishops of the SSPX!

    Mary Queen of Heaven, pray for us!
    St. Pius X, pray for us!
    ArchBishop Lefebvre, pray for us!
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    Offline curiouscatholic23

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    Letter from Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson
    « Reply #9 on: October 13, 2011, 08:03:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphim
    Apparenty the Moderators on this forum prefer the expulsion of Bishop Williamson, and therefore choose to leave this thread intact?

    If so, you are deceived about being able to have Bishop Williamson promote sedevacantism if (or now, when) he gets expelled.

    Your treachery will yield you no benefit.

    You have only weakened tradition this noght.

    Nothing more.


    Maybe Bishop Fellay leaked it. Why do you assme it was Bishop Williamson who leaked it?

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    Letter from Bishop Fellay to Bishop Williamson
    « Reply #10 on: October 13, 2011, 08:08:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphim
    Apparenty the Moderators on this forum prefer the expulsion of Bishop Williamson, and therefore choose to leave this thread intact?



    It's already been posted on a frequently read blog. Doubtlessly it has already made it's way around the net. It's too late now.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!


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    « Reply #11 on: October 13, 2011, 08:12:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Samurai
    Quote from: Seraphim
    Apparenty the Moderators on this forum prefer the expulsion of Bishop Williamson, and therefore choose to leave this thread intact?



    It's already been posted on a frequently read blog. Doubtlessly it has already made it's way around the net. It's too late now.

    I saw that it has been removed on FE

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    « Reply #12 on: October 13, 2011, 08:18:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: tradlover

    I saw that it has been removed on FE


    Can it be removed from MP's blog? I wish, but I think we're going to learn the truth about this supposed letter soon enough.

    I need a drink .
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

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    « Reply #13 on: October 13, 2011, 08:20:46 PM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Samurai
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    I saw that it has been removed on FE


    Can it be removed from MP's blog? I wish, but I think we're going to learn the truth about this supposed letter soon enough.

    I need a drink .


    I am monitoring it and it was put back on FE

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    « Reply #14 on: October 13, 2011, 11:41:26 PM »
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  • I am, reluctantly, forced to conclude that this letter is genuine, especially in light of what I already know to be certifiably true.

    Recall the thread I started several months ago: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/A-little-bird-told-me-about-the-SSPX

     

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