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Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 04:03:33 PM »
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  • Taylor is not a bishop, as far as I am concerned. I was mixed up, years ago with some of the men he "ordained" that led me to do extensive research into his lines. I no longer have the resources to cite, but I will give you the short of it. He will argue that he has lines through Archbishop Thuc.  Yes, Abp. Thuc's ordinations and consecrations are valid but here is the issue, which I will try to carefully explain...
    1. There is a long line of orders and priests leading up to and before Taylor, even those involved with Thuc, in Taylor's lineage

    2. It is not verifiable that the some of the priestly ordinations in Taylor's lines are valid and there is reason to doubt the form and validity

    3. It is not verifiable that the Roman rite or another approved Eastern rite was used in these ordinations

    4. There are ordinations and lines in Taylor's line weaving in and out of schismatic groups, such as the Brazilian National Catholic Church and other so-called autocellaphous churches (read: guys living with their 80 year old mom playing bishop in the garage)

    5. Some of these schismatics may have had valid orders but the issue is whether they used the actual Roman rite of ordination without any changes.

    6. The rites used by the schismatic groups are not verifiable, unless there are pictures and audio recordings. If someone was ignorant and foolish enough to be a witness, they still might not even have known better.

    7. Many of the involved men are dead and cannot be questioned or given the chance to explain or retract their actions

    I wish I had more in digital format to give you.

    Taylor also did a mail order type deal, where you could send him money and he sent you a certificate as being part of some kind of order, lay order or something of that likeness. What he did escapes me, but it earned him the name of Conman Taylor.

    He was also trusted by the late Fr. Hector Bolduc, who I knew personally. Fr. Bolduc, for the good he did was not careful about checking into ordinations. I don't think it was malice but that for whatever reason, Taylor wasn't the only mistake he made. He installed two men who were old Catholics at an SSPX chapel, and they were not conditionally ordained. I know many people, including myself loved Fr. Bolduc, he wasn't careful. I was actually personally affected by his ivolvement and trust with the Taylor line and it was a mess for me. Once I was made aware I set out to straighten out the problem and at the same time, a former SSPX priest, who also knew of the situation, helped me rectify the incident. Initially, it was a different former SSPX priest and some laymen who tipped me off.


    Anyways, STAY AWAY! It is a mess. Only go to traditional priests and bishops with clean and verifiable lines.

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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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  •   Yes. Things are getting confusing.  

    There are men who are infiltrating independent chapels for evil purposes too.

    May God provide all Catholic chapels with holy, chaste, valid priests of the true Catholic faith.

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  • And these men are slick and take advantage of  good people.

    We try to trust people.  Sometimes we make bad judgements because evil is slick and deceives.





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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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    And these men are slick and take advantage of  good people.

    We try to trust people.  Sometimes we make bad judgements because evil is slick and deceives.




    Sometimes you have to remember Ronald Reagan's slogan; Trust but verify.

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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
    « Reply #6 on: August 05, 2013, 01:17:57 PM »
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    Taylor is not a bishop, as far as I am concerned. I was mixed up, years ago with some of the men he "ordained" that led me to do extensive research into his lines. I no longer have the resources to cite, but I will give you the short of it. He will argue that he has lines through Archbishop Thuc.  Yes, Abp. Thuc's ordinations and consecrations are valid but here is the issue, which I will try to carefully explain...
    1. There is a long line of orders and priests leading up to and before Taylor, even those involved with Thuc, in Taylor's lineage

    2. It is not verifiable that the some of the priestly ordinations in Taylor's lines are valid and there is reason to doubt the form and validity

    3. It is not verifiable that the Roman rite or another approved Eastern rite was used in these ordinations

    4. There are ordinations and lines in Taylor's line weaving in and out of schismatic groups, such as the Brazilian National Catholic Church and other so-called autocellaphous churches (read: guys living with their 80 year old mom playing bishop in the garage)

    5. Some of these schismatics may have had valid orders but the issue is whether they used the actual Roman rite of ordination without any changes.

    6. The rites used by the schismatic groups are not verifiable, unless there are pictures and audio recordings. If someone was ignorant and foolish enough to be a witness, they still might not even have known better.

    7. Many of the involved men are dead and cannot be questioned or given the chance to explain or retract their actions

    I wish I had more in digital format to give you.

    Taylor also did a mail order type deal, where you could send him money and he sent you a certificate as being part of some kind of order, lay order or something of that likeness. What he did escapes me, but it earned him the name of Conman Taylor.

    He was also trusted by the late Fr. Hector Bolduc, who I knew personally. Fr. Bolduc, for the good he did was not careful about checking into ordinations. I don't think it was malice but that for whatever reason, Taylor wasn't the only mistake he made. He installed two men who were old Catholics at an SSPX chapel, and they were not conditionally ordained. I know many people, including myself loved Fr. Bolduc, he wasn't careful. I was actually personally affected by his ivolvement and trust with the Taylor line and it was a mess for me. Once I was made aware I set out to straighten out the problem and at the same time, a former SSPX priest, who also knew of the situation, helped me rectify the incident. Initially, it was a different former SSPX priest and some laymen who tipped me off.


    Anyways, STAY AWAY! It is a mess. Only go to traditional priests and bishops with clean and verifiable lines.


    Uh, Fr Bolduc didn't even talk to Bishop Taylor. This is a bunch of malarchy. Fr. Bolduc had a cease and desist order against him, but since Taylor misspelled Fr. Bolduc's name, he had a hard time getting him to take it off his website, for detraction. He did sue them and got his name removed from that website when it was brought to his attention that he was appearing on there. He was livid! He had absolutely NO connection with them, and that's what he told us!

    You obviously didn't know Fr. Bolduc well enough. He was -very- careful and he didn't trust Taylor at all. He always told us to stay away from the Thuc line.

    People out in twin cities are telling me to go to Fr Brown down in Elgin. I won't go because it's the Thuc line.

    But I'll tell you something, you got a lot of nerve talking about Fr. Bolduc, making these accusations, when he can't even defend himself. Unreal.

    Go to "Bishop Taylor's" site, and you'll see that he asks for people interested in being priests, to be "incardinated" with him and his community. What in the... this is something Father Bolduc never would have okayed.

    He's been "approved" by the "authorities" in "Rome?" WAT? This guy is a complete fraud.

    http://netministries.org/frames.asp?ch=ch06827&st=WV&name=St.%20Basil%20Roman%20Catholic%20Church&city=Beckley

    Stop slandering Father Bolduc.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2013, 01:31:11 PM »
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  • Fr. Bolduc, in whose childhood home I have sat in and conversed with him, sent Richard McDonough to Taylor for ordination. McDonough ran the church Fr. Bolduc owned in New Hampshire and was his resident priest. As far as I know, McDonough never received conditional ordination from reliable bishop. Those are the true facts of the matter, but I'd be happy to know that a conditional ordination was done, as I really think Richard McDonough is a good and wonderful man, and I couldn't think more highly of him.

    I'm not accusing him of sin, he was a good man, but he wasn't careful. Ask one of the nine who were in the SSPX at the same time, or even priests who knew him well. I got my information from both.


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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
    « Reply #8 on: August 09, 2013, 07:07:34 AM »
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    Taylor is not a bishop, as far as I am concerned. I was mixed up, years ago with some of the men he "ordained" that led me to do extensive research into his lines. I no longer have the resources to cite, but I will give you the short of it. He will argue that he has lines through Archbishop Thuc.  Yes, Abp. Thuc's ordinations and consecrations are valid but here is the issue, which I will try to carefully explain...

    1. There is a long line of orders and priests leading up to and before Taylor, even those involved with Thuc, in Taylor's lineage

    2. It is not verifiable that the some of the priestly ordinations in Taylor's lines are valid and there is reason to doubt the form and validity

    3. It is not verifiable that the Roman rite or another approved Eastern rite was used in these ordinations

    4. There are ordinations and lines in Taylor's line weaving in and out of schismatic groups, such as the Brazilian National Catholic Church and other so-called autocellaphous churches (read: guys living with their 80 year old mom playing bishop in the garage)

    5. Some of these schismatics may have had valid orders but the issue is whether they used the actual Roman rite of ordination without any changes.

    6. The rites used by the schismatic groups are not verifiable, unless there are pictures and audio recordings. If someone was ignorant and foolish enough to be a witness, they still might not even have known better.

    7. Many of the involved men are dead and cannot be questioned or given the chance to explain or retract their actions

    I wish I had more in digital format to give you.

    Taylor also did a mail order type deal, where you could send him money and he sent you a certificate as being part of some kind of order, lay order or something of that likeness. What he did escapes me, but it earned him the name of Conman Taylor.

    Anyways, STAY AWAY! It is a mess. Only go to traditional priests and bishops with clean and verifiable lines.


    Yes!

    Taylor also ordained Dennis McCormack, a "priest" who got "consecrated" by Ryan Scott some years ago. Afterwards, he became a convicted sex-offender. He was in Long Island, NY, or somewhere around there.

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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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    Fr. Bolduc, in whose childhood home I have sat in and conversed with him, sent Richard McDonough to Taylor for ordination. McDonough ran the church Fr. Bolduc owned in New Hampshire and was his resident priest. As far as I know, McDonough never received conditional ordination from reliable bishop. Those are the true facts of the matter, but I'd be happy to know that a conditional ordination was done, as I really think Richard McDonough is a good and wonderful man, and I couldn't think more highly of him.

    I'm not accusing him of sin, he was a good man, but he wasn't careful. Ask one of the nine who were in the SSPX at the same time, or even priests who knew him well. I got my information from both.


    So you're saying that he sent Fr. McDounagh, the priest that he put charge over his very chapel, to "Bishop Taylor?" Fiddlesticks! I'm going to check this out myself.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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  •  :dancing-banana:I'd stay far away from any "bishop" who plays in his 80 year-old mother's garage!  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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  • These bishops have supplied jurisdiction.

    It's a sin, a grave sin, to constantly cast down on Traditional Catholic Bishops.

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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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    Fr. Bolduc, in whose childhood home I have sat in and conversed with him, sent Richard McDonough to Taylor for ordination. McDonough ran the church Fr. Bolduc owned in New Hampshire and was his resident priest. As far as I know, McDonough never received conditional ordination from reliable bishop. Those are the true facts of the matter, but I'd be happy to know that a conditional ordination was done, as I really think Richard McDonough is a good and wonderful man, and I couldn't think more highly of him.

    I'm not accusing him of sin, he was a good man, but he wasn't careful. Ask one of the nine who were in the SSPX at the same time, or even priests who knew him well. I got my information from both.


    So you're saying that he sent Fr. McDounagh, the priest that he put charge over his very chapel, to "Bishop Taylor?" Fiddlesticks! I'm going to check this out myself.


    You don't believe me that he was ordained by Taylor?

    I have at least four former SSPX priests, one of which was the recipient of some of my research into the matter, who would affirm that this is true. I also have witnesses to Richard McDonough stating the same thing.

    If you knew Father Bolduc so well, what kind of farm did he have?

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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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    These bishops have supplied jurisdiction.

    It's a sin, a grave sin, to constantly cast down on Traditional Catholic Bishops.


    Are you retarded? In what diocese do they have supplied jurisdiction? How do they break up their territories? Are they making new ones? You know only the Church has the right to set up a diocese, right?

    Secondly, many of these men are not bishops. It is a mortal sin to impersonate clergy.

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    Who is Bishop Taylor from West Virginia
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  • Stop slandering Father Bolduc.

    And you stop slandering the Tuc line!     There seems to be a  few "bad apples" in the  trad movement these days, but they are not confined to the Tuc line.  There are others in the Lefebre line as well.

     

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