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Offline Matthew

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Are vaccines safe?
« on: February 13, 2008, 11:58:15 PM »
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  • I am upgrading this video to a MUST SEE.

    You want to know WHY vaccines are bad, this is the place to learn! This video is EXTREMELY well-researched and has compelling evidence that can't be ignored.

    I BEG OF YOU to watch this and pass it on to as many people as possible.


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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 02:38:09 PM »
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  • Vaccines in general are unsafe because they send the immune system into overdrive. If the new one doesn't contain any mercury or alluminum, I still wouldn't recommend that you test it on yourself. If God wants people to get the flu sometimes, he has ways of punishing us for taking it into our own hands. Forty years from now people may be learning about the "Killer Flu Shot of 2008" that accumulated in peoples' systems over the decades from yearly injections, causing them to experience various terrible side effects.


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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 06:43:14 AM »
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  • The medical associations have issued a list of those who are not to be treated for the pandemic flu. Seniors, handicap. You know a page out of Hitler's playbook.

    Offline Matthew

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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 09:55:34 PM »
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  • The question is whether vaccines are positively harmful, and whether or not they even work.

    There are a lot of myths out there about the efficacy of vaccines, which people don't even question.

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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 09:55:53 PM »
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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #5 on: November 09, 2008, 07:15:23 AM »
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  • What if the vaccines had no effect on your avoiding kidney failure?

    That is the point.

    And most people are not high-risk as in your case -- so even if vaccines worked, they'd still have massive side effects to most people should avoid them.

    But do vaccines work? Are we just trusting that they work, or is there any evidence at all?
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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2008, 07:55:52 PM »
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    By 'professionals' I don't mean watching a couple of onlione videos or shoosing the odd site here and there to suit your line of thinking.


    I watched the video that chant put up in its entirety - it's not wacko crackpot conspiracy theorist science that is trying to force evidence into backing up what they want to believe.  Most of it consisted of studies and statistics.  And the video also stated that if you are informed of both sides and you still feel the need to use the vaccines, then use them.  I don't think is anything wrong at all with being critical of doctors and panels of doctors who really don't have my welfare in mind but the almighty dollar.  If you want to believe every blessed thing that the modern (and by and large corrupt) medical field tells you that is your choice - don't accuse others of being "irresopnsible" and "dangerous" just because they choose not to buy into it.

    The video also stated that if you have some sort of autoimmune disease where your immune function or other vital organs would already be compromised then, yes, it may be in your best interest to be vaccinated.  That in no way contradicts the information that is presented in the video.  If you don't want to be vaccinated, then don't, but don't act like it is a sin for people to share information about research.  If anything these vaccine manufacturers and doctors have an obligation before God to inform parents what exactly it is that their children are being injected with and the possible side effects it may have.  Especially considering that as parents we are going to be responsible for their welfare and explaining to them what is wrong with them should they experience any sort of injury due to vaccination.  

    I, for one, would like to thank Chant very much for the info because 1) I did have a lot questions about whether or not to vaccinate my children but didn't know where to look, so I got some of the immunizations for my daughter, but not all of them, not knowing what to do, 2) friends of mine ask me what information I have with regards to the use of the rogam shot during pregnancy and also information on immunizations and I have nothing to give them, and 3) I have a parent on one side who is "gung ho medical field -alternative medicine is wacko science" and one on the other who is "gung ho alternative medicine- the modern medical field is evil in its entirety" - between the two of them it is hard to find the right and balanced path without third party information and research, but usually I have no idea where to look or where to start.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 09, 2008, 08:02:13 PM »
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    2) friends of mine ask me what information I have with regards to the use of the rogam shot during pregnancy and also information on immunizations and I have nothing to give them,
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    Actually that is not true, the problem is that ALL I have to give them is the conditioning that I have received compliments of western medicine, i.e. that "immunizations prevent life threatening diseases,"  "without them there would be massive pandemics of small pox, chicken pox, scarlet fever, polio, etc..."  and "doctors know best always do what the doctor says."  Now, if this is the only information that you have to give and a close friend needs help trying to make an informed decision, it isn't exactly fair to just regurgitate to them the same conditioned response that you received.  At least this way I can honestly say for myself and them, here is what I believe and why.


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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 01:05:11 PM »
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  • given all of the research that has been done and all the studies of the studies how is that places promoting the flu vaccine say that the risks of using thimerosal containing vaccines are unsubstantiated?

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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 02:56:05 AM »
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  • Vaccines made of aborted fetues are sinful to use. if you ask for the source I will give you.
    and "vatican accepts/allows them" is not a valid argument, because vatican allows gay parade, islamism and pan religious worship too!

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    Are vaccines safe?
    « Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 06:31:28 PM »
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  • I do not let my children receive any type of vaccination. We have not been to the doctor in over 7 years for anything. When my second to the last son was born, the doctor came in to argue with me. I asked him if he know that some vaccines were made from aborted fetal tissue, and if so could he tell me which one (chickenpox at that time). Nope,he could not.I informed him that it behooved him to become more informed, especially when it sounds like it came from Dr. Mengele in Hitler's Germany to use the dead bodies of babies to vaccinate your children from something as simple as chickenpox.

    BTW, do not rush to tell me that chickenpox can be dangerous anyone. Out of 23 nieces and nephew, 8 children of my own and 7 siblings, I have not experienced anyone doing anything other than scratch.


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    « Reply #11 on: April 27, 2009, 04:50:07 PM »
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  • I am 48 years old and have multiple sclerosis and the old fillings that are mercury based. Add to that all the immunizations I received in school days and the crap in the air and food. They really have us where they want us.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 16, 2009, 11:01:44 AM »
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  • The father of a friend of mine got permanent damage from a flu shot -- he has to have someone with him when he walks outside at night, because he has vertigo pretty much all the time.

    From a FLU shot!  Just get the flu if it's God's will, but injecting yourself with who knows what and taking grave risks to your health -- so you don't get the flu?

    And the facts are that flu shots don't work anyhow.

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    « Reply #13 on: September 26, 2009, 02:59:21 PM »
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  • I saw in the "Introduction" section that Jehanne had three children with autism.  I wonder if they were vaccinated or if he attributes this to vaccination.

    The story above about the man who can't go out at night without getting vertigo, because of a flu shot, reminds me of a teenager I knew who had reached the age of 16 but couldn't drive himself around the block.  The impression I got was that he was prone to near-seizures, freakouts, although I never witnessed one and he seemed polite and intelligent to me.  But this was what his father alluded to.  The father felt extremely guilty and blamed himself for allowing the kid to be vaccinated when he was a baby.

    Then again, I was vaccinated to the gills and so far, no permanent diseases.  Except dogmatic sedevacantism  :wink:
    A general rule is that my posts before 2011 are dangerous to read ( and after that there were still problems ). I was far too green in the faith and there was much that I should have learned before speaking. Please ignore my old posts against NFP and impl

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    « Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 04:11:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: Raoul76
    I saw in the "Introduction" section that Jehanne had three children with autism.  I wonder if they were vaccinated or if he attributes this to vaccination.


    We are wondering that, too!  Yes, it is possible, and we are pursuing the matter.  At least one civil case has result in a settlement.  I am not out to make money, but the medical costs have run into the thousands, if not tens of thousands.  For instance, my oldest son, age 11, cannot put on his own shoes.

     

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