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The Warning may be VERY soon
« on: December 26, 2016, 11:37:52 AM »
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  • I am certainly not in the habit of making predictions or anything, but I wanted to put this out there after some reading that I did last night.

    Hopefully, most readers here are familiar with the apparitions of Our Lady at Garabandal, Spain in the 1960's.

    Part of the message she gave said that there would be a Warning, whereby the consciences of the entire world would be corrected by an illumination of the soul as God views them. In other words, everyone will see themselves as God sees them, and all the things they have done wrong. The sorrow of this will convert souls back to God, or redouble the devotion of those already turned to Him.

    Then, Our Lady stated there would be a Miracle, which will affirm that the Warning came from God, and that the Miracle will stand until the end of time.

    One of the four seers knows the date of the Miracle, and that the Warning will occur within the year prior to that date.

    I had not visited the Garabandal websites for several years, and I wanted to revisit the information. I noticed that a great many of the priests who endorsed it and others close to the event (including one seer herself) have passed away. It occured to me that God may have taken some of the souls closest to Garabandal in order to spare them the Warning - which is said by the seers to be a most terrible event, though it only lasts a few minutes, so terrible that people would rather be dead than experience it.

    There are certain events that have transpired in the past two years, which indicate to me that the Warning may be at our door.

    to be continued...

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    « Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 11:44:59 AM »
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  • I don't know much about Garabandal but I do not believe in it. Why? Because I read that the visionaries said that the Blessed Mother or maybe God (I forget which) told them that a blind man would be cured of his blindness and that the first thing he would see when he regained his sight was the miracle. That blind man died without receiving his sight back. So because this miracle that was predicted never happened I do not believe in it.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 11:45:43 AM »
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  • There are things the seers were told about the time of the Miracle, which are as follows:

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    At Garabandal the messages give us a clue as to when these great events are likely to occur. We are told that the Miracle will occur thus:

    1. On a Thursday at 8.30pm;
    2. On the Feast Day of a martyr of the Blessed Sacrament;
    3. On a Feast of great ecclesiastical importance;
    4. In March, April or May; and
    5. Conchita has been told by our Lady to reveal the exact date, 8 days beforehand.


    This seems to be decipherable, particularly if one accepts that it must occur within the lifetime of the still living Conchita, now in her 60s.

    I thus calculate as follows.

    The next time there will be a Feast of truly great ecclesiastical importance on a Thursday in March, April or May, and which coincides with the Feast of a martyr of the Blessed Sacrament is

    Maundy Thursday 13 April 2017


    That date is the Feast of Spanish martyr for the Eucharist, Prince St Hermenegild, whose own father, the King of Visigothic Spain, ordered his execution because he would not take communion from an Arian heretical priest. Prince Hermenegild was imprisoned in Tarragona or Toledo by his father, King Leovigild. During his captivity in the tower of Seville, an Arian bishop was sent to St. Hermenegild during the Easter Season, but he would not accept Holy Communion from the hands of that heretical prelate. King Leovigild ordered him beheaded and he was martyred on 13 April 586.

    It is highly significant that this is the feast of a saint who would not take communion from an heretical priest since there are many today who would consider such an action far too "scrupulous" and who quite happily receive communion from priests with heterodox views and from non-Catholic clergy.

    That date is also remarkable in that, as well as being exactly 100 years since the Fatima visions in 1917, it is one of the few times when Maundy Thursday, the great Feast of the Institution of the Blessed Sacrament, coincides exactly in both the Eastern and the Western churches. It will also coincide with the Jewish Feast of the Passover.

    We shall know if this is correct because Conchita will confirm the date, 8 days before, there will be a permanent sign at the pine grove in Garabandal and it will be preceded by the Warning.

    We can expect the Warning within a year of that date and thus any time after 13 April 2016.



    This calculation was made in 2013.

    http://romanchristendom.blogspot.com/2013/04/13-april-2017-forthcoming-miracle-at.html

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    « Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 11:51:03 AM »
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  • There is another fascinating aspect to the apparitions that were given to the girls, in that they were simple peasant children with no worldly knowledge at all at the time, yet they were given a word and a piece of information that is critical in determining the timing of the Warning.

    The girls were told there would be an evil "synod" called before the Warning. Listen to the nun in the video below:

    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/V392zrQYwRQ[/youtube]

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    « Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 11:53:55 AM »
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  • Here is a compilation of interview notes with the seers regarding the Warning:

    http://www.garabandal.org/News/Garabandal_Warning_Miracle_Interviews.shtml

    Fascinating reading.


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    « Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 12:00:02 PM »
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  • Now, this is where I am adding my own observations of recent events and how they relate to the timing of the Warning, and my thought that it may indeed be very, very SOON.

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    In May of 1994 -- 77 years after Our Lady first appeared to the three children at Fatima, Portugal -- a French priest by the name of Raymond Arnette was listening to a CD entitled "Mysterium Fidei," with French lyrics and sung by French choirs. As he was listening devoutly, suddenly the music faded into the background and a clear voice, which was perceived quite normally and not as an interior inspiration, said: "L'eglise saignera de toutes ses plaies", that is, "The Church will bleed from all her wounds."

    Then, there followed this text:

    "There will be a wicked council planned and prepared that will change the countenance of the Church. Many will lose the Faith; confusion will reign everywhere. The sheep will search for their shepherds in vain. A schism will tear apart the holy tunic of My Son. This will be the end of times, foretold in the Holy Scriptures and recalled to memory by Me in many places. The abomination of abominations will reach its peak and it will bring the chastisement announced at La Salette. My Son's arm, which I will not be able to hold back anymore, will punish this poor world, which must expiate its crimes.  One will only speak about wars and revolutions. The elements of nature will be unchained and will cause anguish even among the best (the most courageous). The Church will bleed from all Her wounds. Happy are they who will persevere and search for refuge in My Heart, because in the end My Immaculate Heart will triumph."

    After this message, Fr. Arnette only heard one more sentence:

    "This is the Third Secret of Fatima."


    It is my opinion that in this locution, Fr. Arnette was not being given information about Vatican II Council, which was long prior, since this locution happened in 1994. It is my opinion that he was being given information about a FUTURE wicked council, that would take place after 1994.

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    « Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016, 12:10:47 PM »
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  • So, what was this future wicked council that would cause a schism that Fr. Arnette was warned about?

    It is none other than the Synod on the Family, held on October 13th (the anninversary of the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima, no less!) in 2014.

    This Synod caused the greatest upheaval in the Church since the Vatican II Council in the 1960's.

    At the time, the word "schism" was thrown about heavily by even the mainstream media reporting on the Synod.

    See these examples at the time:

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    The document also seems to frankly change the church's tone toward gay people: While it re-emphasizes church teaching against same-sex marriage, it also asks blunt questions of the wider church.

    "Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities?" it asks.
    "Often they wish to encounter a Church that offers them a welcoming home," it continues.

    "Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?"


    source:
    https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/synod-releases-document-new-tone-calling-mercy-listening

    And from the NY Times:

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    But something very different is happening under Pope Francis. In his public words and gestures, through the men he’s elevated and the debates he’s encouraged, this pope has repeatedly signaled a desire to rethink issues where Catholic teaching is in clear tension with Western social life — sex and marriage, divorce and homosexuality.

    And in the synod on the family, which concluded a week ago in Rome, the prelates in charge of the proceedings — men handpicked by the pontiff — formally proposed such a rethinking, issuing a document that suggested both a general shift in the church’s attitude toward nonmarital relationships and a specific change, admitting the divorced-and-remarried to communion, that conflicts sharply with the church’s historic teaching on marriage’s indissolubility.

    At which point there was a kind of chaos.

    Such a reversal would put the church on the brink of a precipice.

    Of course it would be welcomed by some progressive Catholics and hailed by the secular press. But it would leave many of the church’s bishops and theologians in an untenable position, and it would sow confusion among the church’s orthodox adherents — encouraging doubt and defections, apocalypticism and paranoia (remember there is another pope still living!) and eventually even a real schism.


    source:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/opinion/sunday/ross-douthat-the-pope-and-the-precipice.html?_r=1

    I believe the "abomination of abominations" "reaching its peak" spoken of in Fr. Arnette's locution is the gay agenda, which has accelerated unbelievably since 2010. And this Synod occured just before the promotion of the transgender agenda hit the media. The transgender agenda began only SIX MONTHS after the Synod in April 2015, with the "coming out" of Bruce Jenner as "Caitlyn."

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    « Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016, 12:22:21 PM »
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  • This evil Synod on the Family of October 13th 2014 has now accelerated the schism in the Church, because of the scandalous document Amoris Laetitia, written on March 19, 2016 by Pope Francis.

    It has accelerated the schism so much that four Cardinals have recently issued a dubia in November 2016, attempting to correct Pope Francis on his heretical error:

    Read here:

    Four Cardinals Issue Dubia
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2876-four-cardinals-throw-down-gauntlet-before-cunning-pope

    Vatican Schism:
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2888-il-boom-cardinal-dubia-and-roman-schism

    Bp. Athanasius Schneider Defends Four Cardinals' Dubia
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2894-bishop-athanasius-schneider-on-the-dubia-a-prophetic-voice-of-four-cardinals-of-the-holy-roman-catholic-church

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    « Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 12:36:53 PM »
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  • Therefore, if the date of April 13th, 2017 - Maundy Thursday - is accurate as a possibility for the Miracle, this would mean that the Warning is possibly very, very imminent.

    I am inclined to believe this to be possible, due to the horrible state of the world, and due to the significance of the year of 2017 as a whole, being the 100th anniversary of the apparitions of Our Lady at Fatima.

    This date's close proximity to an "evil synod" spoken of by the seers at Garabandal, seems very significant to me.

    Also, Fr. Arnette's locution about a "wicked council" and the "peak of the abomination of abominations" seems an important corroboration of the Garabandal message.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 12:47:00 PM »
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  • There is another possible date for the Miracle, which is slightly more distant in the future - that is April 11th 2019.

    This is the Feast of St. Stanislaus, Bp. of Krakow, who was a Eucharistic Martyr, as he was slain by King Boleslaw while celebrating Mass.

    St. Stanislaus also famously raised Piotr from the dead to testify in his conflict with King Boleslaw.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislaus_of_Szczepan%C3%B3w

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    « Reply #10 on: December 26, 2016, 12:57:00 PM »
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  • False apparition.


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    « Reply #11 on: December 26, 2016, 01:19:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: nctradcath
    False apparition.


    Thanks for your input.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 26, 2016, 06:52:22 PM »
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  • Excerpt from http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/Garabandal2.html
    (The numbering has disappeared in the copying/pasting - see the original for the 1 to 20 points)

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    NEGATIVE ARGUMENTS AGAINST THE SO-CALLED APPARITIONS OF GARABANDAL

     All eight bishops of Santander have from 1961 up to now, supported by the Holy See in Rome, publicly declared that no supernatural apparitions had taken place in Garabandal.
     
    The parish priest of Garabandal told me during my third visit there on 03/10/2000 after mass, that the so-called apparitions merely caused problems in the Spanish Church.

    He handed me over the document with the definite, negative, final judgment of the present bishop of Santander, Mgr. Villaplana.

    Conchita said the pope (at that time Paul VI) as well as Padre Pio would still see the miracle. Both have been dead for a long time.

    In Conchita's diary one can read (p.164 Dutch edition) that Paul VI knew the date of the great Miracle.

    On 13/04/1995 almost 20,000 pilgrims were present at Garabandal. Many from the USA who had paid $2000 American dollars for their air-tickets. Once more the date was false.

    Prof. Rutten, the retired economist from the Netherlands, now foretells this miracle is going to happen on 11/04/2002. This fantasist was just as sure of the fact that the pope would proclaim the fifth Marian Dogma (via Amsterdam) on 31/05/2001 ...

    According to Conchita the present pope (John Paul II) is the last pope on earth. Many other false seers suggest the next pope might well be the Anti-Christ. This way the good faithful are soaked off from the local bishop. Because the latter does not recognize the apparitions, he is a bad bishop without faith. Afterwards they are incited against the next pope and so there appears a schism with Rome and in the end Satan is the winner.

    The leader of the Garabandal center in the Netherlands, Mr. Wim L., said during the Dutch TV Program, Crosspoint on 20/05/01 that he himself did not know if Garabandal came from Satan or from God.

    In the same program they showed one of the Van der Maazen brothers, who keeps a souvenir-shop in Garabandal. The other brother who thought he would be cured on the day of the miracle, has already died. Wim L. told me over the phone that Barry Hanratty of the Garabandal center in New York had discovered that the Van der Maazen brothers cheated with the sale of medals containing little pieces of the so-called missal of Jacinta or Loli, that the text on the little pieces appears to be a Dutch text! Yet the same organizer Wim L. permitted Mr. Jef Van der Maazen to claim on T.V. the Miracle would happen in 2002. (in imitation of Rutten, the other fantasist)

    Already in 1966 Conchita wanted to enter the Carmelite Convent in Pamplona. "Jesus" told her to go back to the world. In 1973 she married the much older Patrick Keena, divorced from his first wife, whom he had previously married before the law. According to some people he had two children from this first marriage or even two children from two different women. Not one family member was present at Conchita's wedding.

    The same main seer, Conchita, made a museum of her house in Garabandal. She has since sold that house and owns a house in New York and a flat in Fatima as well. Compare them with Bernadette in Lourdes.

    The same Conchita admitted to Father J. Pelletier that she herself had stolen the Host from the tabernacle for the so-called mystical communion.

    Just before the so-called apparition in Garabandal the four seers had stolen apples.
    Conchita was often caught in contradictions.

    All four seers have already denied the apparitions really took place.

    Not one of the seers still lives in the Garabandal-village.

    The whole Garabandal story bursts with sensation.

    Many of the so-called mystic phenomenons point out satanic influence. Remember the backwards running parties with the head bend back. Which theological value has such a thing? Conchita's convent vocation hot lost and she married a divorced man. She even said the Blessed Mother played hide and seek with her. On the other hand she even helped find shoes which had been lost by the pilgrims. The seers gave sweets to little Jesus and were allowed to take him into their arms. The Blessed Mother told the seers she perfumed the brushes of her slippers .... This Pope would be the last Pope. The un-Biblical Warning, the ever postponed Miracle are pure deceit and passion for the sensation. Satanic?

    Typical too: the Garabandal - fans always try to undermine the local bishop's authority as well as that of the next pope. Once again dangerous phantasm. Who incites to disobedience? God or Satan?

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    « Reply #13 on: December 26, 2016, 07:16:23 PM »
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  • The opinion of Rick Salbato is of little interest to me. He's a crank, and there is so much error in what he wrote, it's embarrassing for him.

    I'll take St. Padre Pio's opinion on Garabandal over Salbato's every time - case closed.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 26, 2016, 07:52:32 PM »
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  • You have legitimate documentation that Padre Pio actually wrote about the apparition and not just hearsay? Thier is great deal of falsehood attributed to him.

     

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