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Offline wisconsheepgirl

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« on: October 10, 2011, 01:48:04 PM »
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  • I had a very interesting conversation with a woman at my parish yesterday. She is a lovely woman. She and her husband have 7 children they just recently moved from Tennessee. They came over to my house to eat a brunch.  I have to say those kids are beyond fabulous. So while everyone is getting settled to get ready to watch Brewers vs. Cardinal game and later Packers vs. Falcon game she and I got to talking.

    She said that it's been nearly 3 years since she's gotten pregnant and she doesn't know why. She is 32, healthy, in good shape and she didn't have any known health issues. She has some issues with menustral periods a bit heavier than usual in beginning of her cycle and then tapers off rather quickly. She asked me if I had any clue, as she knows what I do for a living. I was drawing a blank. I asked her what her normal daily activities were, what her meals consist of. She homeschools, she does more in a morning that I do in two days! So after writing that down I asked about what she and her family eats. She's really into eating as close to how God created food. She gave me a list of foods, sounded interesting. She called one of her daughters in and her daughter said "We eat alot of wild yams which is delicious when cooked right. We have had some more brought up from Pappaw's place just a few weeks ago"

    I about fell off my chair.

    I asked the daughter if I could ask her a personal question, she said sure. I asked if she had started her menestrual cycle yet. She has. I asked the mother if her other daughters have and one other has. So we called in daughter #2. I asked both the girls what their cycle was like "It's really heavy first few days then nothing". So the average time for their cycles is about 2.5 days in total. Of course being young girls they don't know any better and mom is of belief they're young so their cycles are a shorter in duration.

    I asked the mom did where did she live when she got pregnant easily? "Arizona". How long have you been living in Tennessee? "Almost 3 years".  

    I thanked the girls and told them if they wanted to leave the table they could. The older daughter chose to stay. I told the mother to quit immediately eating wild yams. She looked completely perplexed and bewildered. I told her that wild yams is known as a 'herbal birth control'. At least in an area of Mexico I've been in where is widely practiced. It's unknown really how it works but the thinking by the villiage women I knew that used it for that purpose say they think it makes the egg outer layer extra thick to where nothing can penetrate. Also, it is known in science to be the 'herbal' equivalent of birth control pill where it was derived from. It can also create miscarriages up to 7 months gestation when an over indulgence occurs.

    I also explained that wild yam isn't all bad. That it can help with pre term labor as it relaxes muscles and smooths out the nerve endings to keep a woman going into labor, with the right amount only. And it's actually known to assist in pain relief for a woman in actual labor but it can cause great amount of hemorraging p labor is complete so its used sparingly to assist with pain management.

    She became quite emotional which I wasn't expecting. She felt that she had done something wrong, evil. I reassured her that she hadn't. She has zero idea of wild yam's effects. Who would think of that? So to not worry, just that she needs to not eat wild yams nor should her daughters as they are experiencing a higher than normal hormonal shift to progesterone. Making their cycle a bit 'off' but nothing than can't be resolved immediately.

    I pointed out to her that perhaps Arizona doesn't have wild yams (she said she never saw any) and her family eats it quite often at home in TN. She got on her phone and started calling her sisters all who love wild yam and eat it religiously and have had many issues regarding miscarriages, infertility, and other reproductive issues. All of her family is practicing traditional Catholics. And I think this information just rocked their world.

    What does a wild yam look like? http://www.rain-tree.com/Plant-Images/dioscorea-pic.htm

    Should you avoid it if wanting to get pregnant? Probably. But do note that it does have great medicinal properties that assist in other areas of female reproduction. But it does need to be used cautiously until it's understood, and it's not. At least not by me. The women in Mexico used in primarily for birth control but as stated above it has other qualities that assist in creating a healthy pregnancy i.e., primarily stopping pre term labor, it can actually help with infertility. All of this seems to be anedotal more than scientific empirical data. Knowing that I may be wrong but this family in particular has wild yams very often as it is a much loved staple.

    Just thought I'd share.



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    « Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 05:18:04 PM »
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  • There are many herbs and spices that women who can be pregnant should not consume.  I believe Dill and Fennel can fall into that category?


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    « Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 07:01:54 PM »
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  • Thanks for this information. Very interesting.

    It's funny how an attempt to eat "normal" can send you into such uncharted territory.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 07:27:17 PM »
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  • Wisconsinsheepgirl,
    Who would have ever thought?!!  Thanks for this.  I intend to share it with my adult married kids.  You could be God's instrument in bringing more souls into the world.  God bless you.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 12:20:26 AM »
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  •   Coincidence!
    I just wanted to open a thread about it! Well, my grandma told me about a woman whose husband left her. The lady in her despair consumed a certain (herbal?) drug that stopped her from bleeding monthly.
       It makes me wonder. I have heard about herbal drugs that ladies in the old old times consumed and it made them barren once for all.
       If it is possible to be sterile by just drinking some herbal sherbet then why do modern people go after tubal legation?


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    « Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 01:22:09 AM »
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  • wisconsinsheepgirl, while I agree that wild yams help the body produce progesterone, it's very possible that there are other fertility issues at play as well and it's not entirely the fault of the wild yams. I don't know that they could be 100% effective as birth control for 3 years, so while avoiding them may be a good extra precaution, she could look into other reasons as well, just to be sure.

    The perfect solution would be for her to eat them during her luteal phase and avoid them during her follicular phase. Then she would have the benefits of progesterone when it is so necessary and vital to a possible pregnancy, during the luteal phase, but not chance it being an ovulation suppressant during the follicular phase. Using it in this way could certainly help with infertility (many infertile ladies are helped tremendously by supplementing progesterone during the luteal phase, it is also extremely helpful in taming PMS, avoiding miscarriages etc.. it truly is a necessary hormone at that time) and she could also be free to enjoy God's bounty. Just avoid them during her follicular phase, that is all that is necessary, so as not to disturb the estrogen necessary for ovulation. Hope that helps. :)

    (That is my opinion based on 5 years of study of hormones in a natural context and in the context of fertility/infertility, but I'm not a doctor, so as sure as I am, I can't pretend to have more authority on that than I do.)

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    « Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 01:29:20 AM »
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  • After skimming this page, I saw a banner ad at the top of the screen for "Wild Yam Extract" from Puritan's Pride...  I kid you not.  

    I gather whatever advertising robot that Matthew signed up for targets certain key words used on the site.  In this case, the robot did not strike a bullseye.
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    « Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 04:00:45 AM »
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  • Oh my gosh! I was going to quote wallflower/paper goodness gracious and I clicked 'delete"!

    I was going to highlight her excellent distinction of when it would be best to eat the yams to get it's full benefit without being in the way of possible infertility.

    But I did want to say that it is indeed possible to use this to create infertility, etc for this family as they are/were avid eaters of this. They're not like me and you eating it perhaps for Thanksgiving. This was per the H & P and review of what they ate on just about some variety of their meals x 2 daily. So for anyone else I would absolutely agree with you that it would not cause a probable issue for lack of pregnancy for nearly 3 years.

    We'll let time tell about this family. All we can do. As stated there is tons of anedotal information but nothing regarding scientific data that would explain a normal ingestion of wild yams but this family--they love wild yams like a fat boy loves cake. That's all I gotta say, my friend.



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    « Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 08:43:51 PM »
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  • Yes, that does sound like a lot of wild yams! For complete nutrition's sake they should probably add sweet potatoes and other roots to their diet anyway.

    (I'm sorry, I see that I got your username wrong.)  

    spouse and Tele, I don't know much about herbs but they do impact hormones, some more than others.

    I expect that people today go through tubal ligation for the same reasons that they go through all the other unnecessary or overused procedures...diet and herbs are lost arts. (Not that birth control through herbs would be an art, but you understand what I mean, few people know how they work anymore to achieve anything, positive or negative.)

    While we are on the subject I would add that besides wild yams, soy is high on the list to go easy on consuming. While wild yams have a progesterone effect, soy has an estrogen effect and it is in EVERYthing. If you are a label reader you know you can't get away from it. On top of that, add parabens, a preservative that permeates 98% of personal care products, also an estrogen mimicker. THEN add estrogen birth control and the lack of progesterone to counter estrogen because enough progesterone to counter THAT much estrogen could only come with pregnancy and most have few pregnancies ... and you have an accounting for a good percentage of breast, uterine and endometrian cancer.

    So go easy on soy and parabens. Not that a little will kill you but considering they are in EVERYthing (read your labels you will be shocked) it doesn't hurt to try and avoid most of it and you'll still get a little. I know I"m not linking anything to back this up but there are all kinds of studies out now that estrogen causes cancer but that isn't really accurate. It's the excess, to the extreme degree our modern lifestyle places in our bodies, and on top of true estrogen excess, the mimickers as well, which can't be assimilated or expelled by the body very well, that's what causes cancer.  

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    « Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 08:54:01 PM »
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  • I forgot to add, Raoul I am getting wild yam ads too. Too funny.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 04:30:17 PM »
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  • WOW, that's interesting! GOOD to know!
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    « Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 10:49:35 AM »
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  • I wanted to share some awesome news! I saw my friend that I had this conversation with back in October and she is 4 months pregnant!! She said that 2 of her sisters are pregnant as well, about 3 months! Her sisters have had their miscarriages within 8 weeks of conception so for them to get to 13 weeks (or so) is very exciting. Don't know if the wild yam played a part but she is an absolute believer as is her sisters.

    Praise God. It was so exciting. So, in 5-6 months we're all going to have 3 new babies in the world.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 09:50:54 AM »
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  • I have heard that wild yams contribute to higher rates of twins too.  The twin rate is very high in societies where lots of wild yams are consumed.
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