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Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« on: April 21, 2022, 07:20:06 AM »
Excerpt from a 2019 SSPX article (Note this article discusses recreational use, not medical use):

Is Using Marijuana a Sin?
The primary effect of the THC is to induce the “high,” and it is practically very rare that one could effectively avoid the stultifying effects of the drug.
For all of the above reasons – that is, impairing of the ability to think and judge properly, damage to the brain, fleeing from reality, unknown physical or psychosomatic effects, difficulty in dosing - moralists conclude that, even though the use of marijuana does not entirely totally suppress the use of reason, it is certainly gravely imprudent to use it.
Thus, the deliberate use of marijuana for recreational purposes is a mortal sin.“


https://florida.sspx.org/en/news-events/news/get-pot-just-say-no-47742

Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2022, 07:36:58 AM »


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the deliberate use of marijuana for recreational purposes is a mortal sin.“
Recreational usage has not been the pro-MJ argument here.


And thanks for starting yet another thread on the topic after the last one was locked. :facepalm:



Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2022, 07:46:15 AM »
Response to Ladislaus in response to my post in the locked thread:

Some here are advocating recreational use or at least implying it via meme. But what I am getting is deeper. Why do Trads lock themselves into a certain conceptual language clown box? Why not just call someone a jerk instead of theologizing it? Are those who oppose marijuana really motivated by Jansenism, c'mon.

The reason I say this is unless more nuanced, I don't trust such claims as pharisee, jansenist, rigourist, etc by instinct because the same people who use them are almost always looking to undermine Catholic morality, while pushing their own morality via racism, sexism, homophobia, antisemitism, etc. You may not believe me, but before 2015 there was growing acceptance of the homo stuff within Traditional Catholicism. I knew Trad women who spoke of having "gαy friends," a turn off, and it was one the things that prompted me to leave the states. I can tell you that no Trads in Europe or Latin America would advocate for marijuana, probably not even in its medical form.


Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2022, 07:52:38 AM »
The reason I say this is unless more nuanced, I don't trust such claims as pharisee, jansenist, rigourist, etc by instinct because the same people who use them are almost always looking to undermine Catholic morality, while pushing their own morality via racism, sexism, homophobia, antisemitism, etc.
Because there are three individuals here attempting to read the interior forum of others and outwardly lying about what some of us do in our personal lives without any actual knowledge of it, while themselves offering up only subjective and emotional counterpoints to the argument. Dismissing traditional moral theology on the matter and offering post-Conciliar lay-opinions on the subject. Had you taken the time to actually read through the mire posted, you would have seen that. (Though, I don't blame you for not doing so)

Sean here has actually posted something objective that I don't entirely disagree with. He is also not among those being derided for their Pharisaism.

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2022, 07:57:20 AM »
Excerpt from a 2019 SSPX article (Note this article discusses recreational use, not medical use):

Is Using Marijuana a Sin?
The primary effect of the THC is to induce the “high,” and it is practically very rare that one could effectively avoid the stultifying effects of the drug.
For all of the above reasons – that is, impairing of the ability to think and judge properly, damage to the brain, fleeing from reality, unknown physical or psychosomatic effects, difficulty in dosing - moralists conclude that, even though the use of marijuana does not entirely totally suppress the use of reason, it is certainly gravely imprudent to use it.
Thus, the deliberate use of marijuana for recreational purposes is a mortal sin.“


https://florida.sspx.org/en/news-events/news/get-pot-just-say-no-47742

1. No one on CathInfo.com has posted anything promoting Marijuana for recreational use (aside from "roscoe", who interestingly hasn't been posting in these threads! Has he?) But at any rate, talking about recreational use being a mortal sin is a non-issue. No one disputes that here. It is a red herring.

2. This article seems to be highly influenced by Fr. Scott's article from the 90's. Using phrases like "practically very rare" is a red flag -- it's the kind of vague language used by someone who hasn't studied the issue very deeply and frankly has few facts to offer. I know that is the language *I* would use if I were short on scientific data and hard facts.

I didn't hear about CBD oil back in the 90's. Nor were there so many varieties of pot, with varying levels of THC. Growers have almost total control over the final product now, it seems.

I would also be willing to entertain the notion that Mark79, who has done quite a bit of research, actually knows MORE about the issue than many ordained SSPX priests with 6 years of Trad seminary formation under their belts. Sometimes a priest has to humble himself (at least in one limited area), giving place to a layman in certain matters of science, business, etc. At the very least, an individual priest is NOT infallible, nor is he the final word on the matter!

6 years in the seminary, and the priestly character received at Ordination, elevates a man above other laymen in certain areas and in certain ways -- but not in all areas. A professional engineer knows WAY more about design than most priests. Which makes sense: he studied engineering for 6 years, instead of the Faith, theology, and philosophy.