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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #135 on: April 21, 2022, 09:19:14 PM »
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  • Marijuana is safer than any chemical in the pharmacy, even aspirin and Tylenol.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #136 on: April 21, 2022, 09:20:48 PM »
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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #137 on: April 21, 2022, 09:25:57 PM »
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  • Pot supporters here are not going to allow a logical conversation about pot. They may pretend to for a short time, but then they will soon move in for the kill.
    Go bake a cake, Meg.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #138 on: April 21, 2022, 09:28:54 PM »
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  • I hope you’re done sniffing people at church. Jesus would prefer meditation I think.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #139 on: April 21, 2022, 09:32:50 PM »
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  • B.S. - I've posted articles by the SSPX and can just Google "Catholic marijuana" and post Catholic articles by the 100's, meanwhile in all of Lent and now this week all you post in the same personal interpretation of Jone. YOU have NOTHING from any Catholic source, just your own convenient interpretation. All one has to do is ask any trad priest if they could smoke marijuana and they'll be told the same as Fr. Scott wrote, "no you can't smoke marijuana, what planet are you from?".

    Marijuana smoking is a scandal and harmful to the family, any Catholic knows that. Why don't you tell your parents and your children that you have decided to smoke marijuana and see what happens. You are a total idiot when it comes to dealing with the real world, you can only play in the speculative relm where there are no consequence and no correct complete answer (like your ad-nauseum lecturing on the 57 flavors of whether the pope is the pope or not. ).
    Wrong!  I did ask a trad priest.  He told me. As long as you don't get high but only relaxed, it is not sinful. He referred me to the Bible quotes I have posted .ultiple times.


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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #140 on: April 21, 2022, 09:34:56 PM »
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  • B.S. - If that was so, then all you dopers could post 100's of articles by Catholic authors that agree with you, but you can't even post one.

    SSPX, CMRI, SSPV, FSSP, ICK, Independent, Novus Ordo and everything in between and not a one article have you people posted. Meanwhile I could post articles from all of them. Go and tell your priest and your parents that you are smoking grass and teaching your children that it is OK and see what will come of it. It will be the most shocking and disappointing day of their lives.

    You Dopers are a perfect example of

    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: 4
    And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables. (2Tim4)
    LT, you've been around the dung in the back 40 too long.  

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #141 on: April 21, 2022, 09:36:34 PM »
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  • Well, for those who smoke to relax, If MJ suppresses immunity, works on lungs, good luck if you get sick, maybe covid.  You have set yourself up.
    If one feels like they have to ask if it is ok to use MJ to relax, then their conscience is bothering them, hm, why?  My dad relaxed with lucky strikes. About a carton a week.  He died at the age of 54.  cancer from lung to brain, usual course.

    It may be your decision, medically, do it right or not at all.  I don't want to meet a driver impaired with MJ on the road.  Something that can not be measured, hm, will the driver on MJ be in trouble?  Is smoking MJ the same as a cigarette, and no one gets in trouble?

    I prefer to relax with a rosary, a good religious book, a bubble bath and save $$$, and be healthier in the long run.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #142 on: April 21, 2022, 09:36:51 PM »
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  • Truly such a dumb shit that even your hysterical bitch effort at a cocaine straw man fails...

    Both Pope Leo XIII and Pope Pius X enthusiastically used Vin Mariani, a proprietary cocaine beverage.





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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #143 on: April 21, 2022, 09:37:42 PM »
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  • Uhhh...because moral principles don't change?  So when Jone (and the 2 other theologians) explained that mental impairment is the litmus test for sin, there's really nothing else to add.  If some Trad priest writes an article and doesn't quote these theologians, he's drifting off course.
    Yep.No one of those groups has a theologian amongst them.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #144 on: April 21, 2022, 09:38:24 PM »
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  • He slams the same hot-headed nonsense on the table again and again and again.

    It hasn't worked with us, it won't, and I'm willing to bet it won't work with his 20 year old children either.
    Or his wife who is half his age.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #145 on: April 21, 2022, 09:43:31 PM »
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  • B.S. - Ladislaus has been backed into a corner and he has grabbed ahold of the only thing he can, "micro-dosing", but nobody that smokes pot does it not to get high, so his "discovery" of micro-dosing is moot, it means nothing and he is just using it as his excuse to promote the legalization of pot. The man can't think in the real world. In the real world people smoke pot to get high. Pot is the instrumental cause, the wedge that divided children from their parents forever, breaking up the family and destroying the faith. But, Ladislaus thinks he has a better way, micro-dosing "which would not be a sin". People with his mindset would not survive in the real world 5 minutes, if they were ship captains, their ship would have been sunk at the dock.
    Show me the data.  I dont believe it exits.  I believe you and Meg make such blanket statements to support "Catholicism according to LT  and Meg".

    You both are a couple of narcissists.


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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #146 on: April 21, 2022, 09:51:17 PM »
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  • I have posted detailed specific Catholic articles on the grave danger of using marijuana recreationally, I have posted my personal experiences having gone through this during the 1960's and forward during the period when the Catholic churches were abandoned by the youth, and the instrumental cause was marijuana, it made a wedge between children and their parents that has never been mended. So I have BOTH personally lived the damage and have [posted Catholic articles from authorities that mirror what I have described. I could easily be the father of all of you and I am telling all of you what will become of your children if you preach to them just what Ladislaus is preaching, let alone what the other dopers really mean, all out freedom to smoke pot in whatever quantities they want. 

    In the 1960's the Latim Mass was the only mass, all Catholics went to the Latin Mass. There were churches walking distance in every town. In those days practically everyone fell away and lost the faith, only  a handful, enough to build people to build a 20 person chapel from 100,000 Catholics before. Those people are the real traditionalists that realized what was going on. Those are the real tradtionalist, but they are all dead now.  In the 1960's the "sex, drugs and rock and roll" took parents by surprise, it was unprecedented and their children were scarred for life, I saw/see it all around with my friends and their children (if they even have any) . In the last 4 weeks, from what I have read here on CI the young people here with no personal experience and posting not a one Catholic article, are promoting marijuana use and in your case apparently you do not see any danger and are indifferent to the recreational use.

    "Those that do not heed the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it"





    You are about as arrogant as they come.
    You could easily be the father of all of us?  Really?  I somehow doubt that 
    And not one person here that I have read is in favor of any good Catholic smoking whatever quantities they want of MJ.

    You have reading comprehension issues as well as your arrogance. 

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #147 on: April 21, 2022, 09:54:23 PM »
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  • Don't be a fool, they are not talking about micro-dosing, that is just propaganda for the gullible. They want to get high. Nobody smokes weed to not get high.  Go buy some pot and try the micro-dosing and you will see for yourself that it is a sham.

    You still have to deal with the scandal and harm to the family that even "micro-dosing causes. Marijuana is a scandal and harmful to the family, one can't just say it isn't, it is a reality. If you do not think so, tell your parents and children that you are micro-dosing for as Ladislaus wrote (with my additions in bold):

    Quote from: Ladislaus on April 18, 2022, 01:36:18 PM

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #148 on: April 21, 2022, 09:56:29 PM »
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  • A. There are no "dopers" participating in your expanding myriad of raving MJ threads.

    B. Your opponents do not "promote recreational use" of MJ, hence your opponents have not and need not post "promotional" articles of any provenance on the social use of MJ.

    C. You have made quite clear that that both use and non-use disqualify anyone who disagrees with your rabid reefer madness. If someone doesn't use it, you pretend a lack of personal experience is disqualifying. If someone has tried it, they are "dopers" (unless they agree with your reefer madness).

    Have you stopped abusing your children? Yes or no!

    D. What you "believe" has proven to have no necessary connection to reality.

    Remember, you are the a**hole who "believes" that I am a damned rabbi sent here to take down saintly Pharisees such as yourself. :laugh2:

    E. "Everything is on my side." — You are a pathetic legend in your own mind.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #149 on: April 21, 2022, 09:58:05 PM »
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  • Again, microdosing was raised in an attempt to elicit the proper principles from the thick skulls here.  But LT refused to answer the question related to it, so now he’s using it as a strawman attack.  It obviously got under his skin and bothered him because he brings it up every post now. He refused to answer the question about whether it would be a sin to microdose, whereby you could relax and relieve anxiety without a high.  Absolutely dishonestly refused to answer ... because the obvious answer completely undermines his stupidity.