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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2022, 10:24:50 AM »
Some here are advocating recreational use or at least implying it via meme. …
 
Only because you called for plain speech… bullshit!

Tolerance of judicious non-medical use of MJ explicitly within the repeatedly stated limits of perennial Catholic moral theology is not "advocating recreational use."

Only someone with shit for brains (plain speech as you wanted) would infer otherwise "via meme."

Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2022, 10:25:23 AM »

Sean, your Summary used the word "intoxication".  That's not what we're discussing...

As I stated (in the same post you quoted from, but chose not to include), it discusses the matter from the standpoint of intoxication, but also other aspects (harm to self; harm to neighbor and society; etc).

I posted it because not only does it apply the principles of St. Thomas Aquinas specifically to the use of recreational marijuana, but it gives a fuller treatment by expanding the moral analysis beyond the issue intoxication.


Offline Matthew

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2022, 10:30:09 AM »
Usually, they say something like, "You shouldn't smoke; it isn't good for your health."  My response has always been, "You shouldn't tell people (you don't know very well and who are 6'3", 200+) what they should or should not do; it isn't good for your health." 

LOL!

And yes, I DID laugh out loud at this, so I am using that worn-out expression here for good reason.

And it's an even worse idea to do this when the person is Irish/choleric as well (but I repeat myself?)
The Irish practically invented the pub brawl. And for those new to CI, I can talk about the Irish because my last name begins with Mc and my Dad's family is from there, several generations back.

Stereotypes are true, more often than not. Or the stereotypes wouldn't "have legs" -- they wouldn't last and persist like cockroaches.
Blacks DO like fried chicken and basketball. Irish DO like to drink and fight. Germans ARE very detail oriented and make good engineers. Italians DO tend towards art.

And they say Trad Catholics are a feisty bunch, always arguing and having a hard time getting along -- that a Trad firing squad would be in the shape of a circle! Imagine that stereotype!

Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2022, 10:30:19 AM »
Sure! In my 1961 edition of Jone, section 110, he lays out the principles for intoxication, rules we are probably all familiar with. Subsection c) says the following:

He never mentions marijuana (he mentions narcotics, which MJ is not), and even if he would have, he’s only discussing the issue of intoxication (which is not the only circuмstance pertaining to the morality of recreational marijuana).

Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2022, 10:32:20 AM »
So you see nothing wrong with nuns going around saying "sh**" or "what a b***" or  "f***" or lighting up a doobie?  

Where did I say that?  You do realize that saying something is not, in and of itself, an evil is not the same as saying it is, in and of itself, a good or virtuous thing?

You have a notable tendency to (intentionally?) frame your questions in a way that distorts the actual discussion.  This helps no one, although it might make you feel clever.

Considering religious have taken vows that tend toward perfection, it seems reasonable to think such behaviors are inconsistent with the singular goal they, by solemn profession, are pursuing.