Response to Ladislaus in response to my post in the locked thread:
Some here are advocating recreational use or at least implying it via meme. But what I am getting is deeper. Why do Trads lock themselves into a certain conceptual language clown box? Why not just call someone a jerk instead of theologizing it? Are those who oppose marijuana really motivated by Jansenism, c'mon.
The reason I say this is unless more nuanced, I don't trust such claims as pharisee, jansenist, rigourist, etc by instinct because the same people who use them are almost always looking to undermine Catholic morality, while pushing their own morality via racism, sexism, homophobia, antisemitism, etc. You may not believe me, but before 2015 there was growing acceptance of the homo stuff within Traditional Catholicism. I knew Trad women who spoke of having "gαy friends," a turn off, and it was one the things that prompted me to leave the states. I can tell you that no Trads in Europe or Latin America would advocate for marijuana, probably not even in its medical form.