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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2022, 09:06:56 AM »
Sean, please define "recreational".  This is key to a rational debate.  

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2022, 09:08:43 AM »
false equivalence between 1-2 glasses of wine/beer, and 1-2 puffs of MJ (for which there is no proportion in the effect produced), which again heavily implies its alleged moral recreational use.

How much is required to produce the same effect is entirely irrelevant to the discussion of the principle ... that's merely a practical consideration.  It only "heavily implies" anything due to the thick skulls and lack of intellectual capacity of some involved in the debate.

[Whatever the amount is ...] to produce a similar level of impairment as [whatever amount of alcohol] doesn't really matter.  What matter is the level of impairment of the higher faculties and a justification is required proportional to the level of impairment.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2022, 09:11:18 AM »
Sean, please define "recreational".  This is key to a rational debate. 

Yeah, I tried to elicit a definition (in Catholic terms) of "recreation" on the other thread ... and it was all in vain.  These people aren't interested in a rational discussion or debate.  They simply emote, huff and puff, use personal attacks, even to the point of slandering those who disagree with them by propping up a strawman position.

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2022, 09:15:37 AM »
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there were several others in the various MJ threads which attempted to draw a false equivalence between 1-2 glasses of wine/beer, and 1-2 puffs of MJ (for which there is no proportion in the effect produced), which again heavily implies its alleged moral recreational use.
Alcohol is highly regulated and manufactured, so when you look at a bottle, you know how much alcohol % is contained and you drink according to your tolerance (which is still subjective...because it drinking on an empty/full stomach can DRASTICALLY alter its effects).


MJ is not uniformly grown nor produced.  It is impossible to say that 1-2 puffs will get you high, or won't, without knowing the plant, producer, etc.  Again, it also depends on the person and how they react to such substances.

Some people can use asprin for pain relief; some people who take asprin will die from allergic shock.  The point is...people have to know what they are drinking/smoking and if they aren't responsible, they will sin.  God will hold them accountable according to their conscience, lukewarmness or carelessness.

But...for people who do research...they can safely and morally use MJ, in theory (I wouldn't know nor will I ever care to find out).

Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2022, 09:21:34 AM »
Just wanted to add to #1 that, besides Ladislaus’s microdosing justification, there were several others in the various MJ threads which attempted to draw a false equivalence between 1-2 glasses of wine/beer, and 1-2 puffs of MJ (for which there is no proportion in the effect produced), which again heavily implies its alleged moral recreational use.

Additionally, I would observe that the article which I posted in the OP, which clearly states it is only condemning recreational use of MJ, has already garnered 3 quick down thumbs (a number soon to grow)?

The conclusion most normal people would arrive at is that they don’t want recreational use of MJ to be considered sinful.

cuмulatively, therefore, it’s difficult to concur that nobody here is advocating for the recreational use of MJ.

Drawing false equivalency between beer/wine and pot; microdosing; down-thumbing articles condemning recreational use of MJ...these certainly would create the impression in many folks, barring further explanation, that some here want recreational use of MJ to be “ok.”