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Offline poche

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What Vegatables Taste Like
« on: September 12, 2013, 11:40:03 PM »
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  • It has been a mystery why some people love some vegetables like broccoli, while others find it to be bitter, even though most people have the same genes for bitter taste receptors.

    Now scientists may have found the missing link — it's not only people's genetic makeup that determines people's reaction to broccoli's bitter taste, but also how these genes are instructed to make taste receptors, according to a new study published today (Sept. 11) in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

    The most-studied gene for bitter taste receptor, TASR38, comes in two types. People who have only one type or the other may be at the extremes — they are either very sensitive to bitterness, or don't taste it unless it's very strong. But most people are somewhere in between, having one copy of each type.

    However, even within this group of "moderate tasters" who have the same genes, there is greatly varied sensitivity to bitterness.
    In the study, 18 people with the same bitter taste genes rated the bitterness level of several beverages, including broccoli juice and carrot juice.

    The researchers took small samples of tissue from the participants' taste buds. Taste buds, small bumps that cover the tongue, contain taste receptors. The researchers measured the amount of a molecule in the taste buds, called messenger RNA (mRNA), which contains instructions for making bitter taste receptors.

    The results showed a direct relationship between how much mRNA people's cells made, and their bitterness ratings of broccoli juice. People who had the most mRNA for bitter taste receptor rated the juice as most bitter.

    "The amount of messenger RNA that taste cells choose to make may be the missing link in explaining why some people with 'moderate taster' genes still are extremely sensitive to bitterness in foods and drinks," said study researcher Danielle Reed, a geneticist at Monell Chemical Senses Center in Philadelphia.

    The findings shows a new level of complexity in taste perception, and may ultimately lend insight into individual differences in food preferences and dietary choices, the researchers said.

    Although the finding has solved one mystery, it has opened the door to new questions.

    "One of the biggest mysteries is what causes the variation in how much mRNA is produced, which could affect how bitter you perceive something, and does it change with diet or age?" said Julie Mennella, a developmental psychobiologist at Monell, another researcher in the study.

    The relationship between diet and mRNA production remains unclear. Previous studies have shown that diet could affect the expression of genes involved in nutrient digestion and metabolism.

    It might be that people with low expression of bitter receptor genes, who find vegetables to taste less bitter, are more likely to include them in their diet than people with high expression of these genes, the researchers said.

    Conversely, it is possible that eating bitter vegetables may change gene expression over time, the researchers said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/broccoli-problem-why-people-taste-things-more-bitter-115628808.html


    Offline Mithrandylan

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    « Reply #1 on: September 12, 2013, 11:41:40 PM »
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  • Thank you, most people needed to know what vegetables taste like, and a yahoo news article is the perfect way for them to find out.

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    « Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 10:14:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mithrandylan (Sep 13, 2013, 12:41 am)
    [....] most people needed to know what vegetables taste like, and a yahoo news article is the perfect way for them to find out.

    I'm disappointed that someone would disparage such a sensible use of the Internet.

    There is at least one person around here, who seems to be shamelessly trolling for dietary disapproval, often reporting meals consisting entirely of fried bread.  Or biscuits.  Maybe accompanied by chopped meats.  Not a vegetable anywhere in sight.

    Charity seems to require me to consider the possibility of a completely different explanation: He might've been psychologically scarred at an impressionable age.  Maybe he was frightened by t.v. commercials featuring the Jolly Green Giant ("Ho, ho, ho!").  Or heard convincing stories from his school-yard chums, that excess chlorphyll in a child's diet would turn his skin or hair green?  The subject is obviously so disturbing that brain cramps cause him to misspell them as "Vegatables".

    For such a person, it might be that reading Yahoo articles on food is the least psychologically perilous means to investigate the novel idea of eating recognizable parts of plants, growing in filthy dirt, as food.  Ewww!  And he could keep his interests secret from everybody except Yahoo and the NSA.

    Bread and flour have the advantage of having been processed into forms that hide their origin as wheat plants.  So eating potatoes and grains of rice might be as bold a culinary act as he could be expected to risk at this time.

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    « Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 12:52:20 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    Conversely, it is possible that eating bitter vegetables may change gene expression over time, the researchers said.


    Epigenetics at work, if this is true.  I'd like to find the actual study rather than simply this report though.
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    Offline Frances

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    « Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 01:41:42 PM »
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  •  :scratchchin:
    Maybe that explains it!  I love brocholii, cauliflower, parsnips, kale, collard greens, eggplant, turnips, rutabaga, all those veggies that most kids hate.  I'm a mutation!  I overheard Bp. W. say, "Mmm, I love gluten," just before he ate a homemade brownie loaded with the stuff.  Poche, what do the scientists say about liking gluten?  Also, what can you tell me about the genes of someone who willingly eats a cold elbow-macaroni and ketchup sandwich on stale rye-bread?
     :ready-to-eat:
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    « Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 01:49:22 PM »
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  • Will Matthew ever put an end to poochie's nonsense?
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #6 on: September 21, 2013, 02:12:59 PM »
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  •  :dancing-banana:
    Hopefully not totally!  I need a good laugh at least once a week.  Native New Yorkers prefer sarcastic humor.  Apparently poche enjoys being raked over the coals, or maybe he IS Matthew!
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    « Reply #7 on: September 21, 2013, 02:57:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
    ...or maybe he IS Matthew!


    Hmmmm...:scratchchin:
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine


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    « Reply #8 on: September 21, 2013, 06:22:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: Frances
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    ...maybe he IS Matthew!


    Come to think of it Matthew did post a lot more internet articles before Poochie came along, though thinking again, of a different nature and standard.
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