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Title: Weston a price
Post by: Predestination2 on February 23, 2025, 08:34:04 PM
This foundation follows the work of Dr Weston a price a dentist who studied the diets of traditional cultures and societies, including during Christendom. He found that they ate high fat animal based diets and they usually fermented their carbs

The foundation advocates for raw (real) milk and seems to be looking into terrain theory. 

Basically it advocates for a high fat and protein diet with real food and no processed junk, it also advocates the GAPS diet for autism 


However I would be weary of its stuff on homeopathy which is occult in its origins
https://www.westonaprice.org
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Ladislaus on February 23, 2025, 08:36:22 PM
Croix?  :laugh1:
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Predestination2 on February 23, 2025, 08:37:51 PM
Croix?  :laugh1:
No
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Predestination2 on February 23, 2025, 08:39:41 PM
Croix?  :laugh1:
Lad im the guy who was reprimanded by Matthew for going on a ‘queer crusade) regarding thomistic predestination, I asked about the great deep and Jonah. 

:fryingpan:
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Chris Z on February 25, 2025, 07:11:45 PM
Please provide sources for "occult" origins of homeopathy.

cz
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Ladislaus on February 25, 2025, 07:53:48 PM
No

No, I wasn't calling you Croix, but inviting Croix to intervene against your statement regarding the healthiness of good fats, proteins, etc.
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Predestination2 on February 26, 2025, 04:38:09 PM
No, I wasn't calling you Croix, but inviting Croix to intervene against your statement regarding the healthiness of good fats, proteins, etc.
ok
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Chris Z on February 26, 2025, 05:51:04 PM
I'm anxious to hear your sources for the "occult" origins of homeopathy.  Pray tell...

cz
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Predestination2 on February 26, 2025, 06:23:31 PM
I'm anxious to hear your sources for the "occult" origins of homeopathy.  Pray tell...

cz
In 1774, Samuel Hahnemann(founder of homeopathy), a 19-year-old with very little money, left his home, in Meissen, Germany, for Leipzig University to study medicine. Although he tried to earn money as a translator, making ends meet was very difficult for him. On the brink of starvation, he was introduced to an opulent Transylvanian baron, Samuel Brukenthal, the head of the Madgeburg Freemasons' Lodge. Hahnemann was initiated into the Lodge in Hermannstadt, Transylvania, in October 1777 (one of the first Lodges). He quickly came to esteem the many itinerant "teachers of mysteries" who were indoctrinating the Lodges in such matters as alchemy and spiritism. The next section deals with the dangers to your Faith inherent in homeopathy.

 Occult "Energy"

 Hahnemann never even attempted to explain scientifically how "medicine," diluted to a point in some cases where there's almost nothing left of the substance, makes it "stronger." This is one of the two key points of homeopathy:

  • “Like cures like”—the notion that a disease can be cured by a substance that produces similar symptoms in healthy people.
  • “Law of minimum dose”—the notion that the lower the dose of the medication, the greater its effectiveness. Many homeopathic products are so diluted that no molecules of the original substance remain.

(See nccih.nih.gov/health/homeopathy; Emphasis mine). 

How can a substance that, in some cases, is literally no longer present be stronger than when it's present? How can a dilute substance be stronger than the same substance less diluted? Hahnemann has formulated a whole doctrine explaining this logical impossibility. First, he considers man as a tripartite being composed of:




Here is Hahnemann in his own words taken from Organon of Medicine:



Here's the really disturbing part. To find the cure for a malady, that’s to say, the herb for the original tincture of the preparation, the researchers often have recourse to occult practices such as the pendulum. Dr. A. Voegeli, a famous homeopathic doctor, has confirmed that a very high percentage of homeopaths work with the pendulum. There are groups whose research is carried out during seances, through mediums who seek information from spirits. (See alopsis.gr/afieroma/af-homeopathy-examined-h-j-bopp-m-d-neuchatel-switzerland). Moreover, Hahnemann, like many homeopaths today utilize Masonic and occult mixing-and-shaking rituals with pendulums and invocations of spirits. 

Hahnemann held to many and varied occult teachings in addition to those in the Masonic Temples. He rejected Christianity, identified with Eastern religions, and took Confucius as his model. One biographer says, “The reverence for Eastern thought was not just Hahnemann’s personal hobby, but rather the fundamental philosophy behind the preparation of homeopathic remedies” (See Samuel Pfeifer, Healing at Any Price, [1988], p. 68). He was a follower of Emanuel Swedenborg, who taught his followers to enter an alternative state of consciousness in order to commune with spirits. Hahnemann called the occultic practices of Franz Mesmer “a marvelous, priceless gift of God” by which “the vital energy of the healthy mesmerizer endowed with this power [can be brought] into another person dynamically” (See Organon of Medicine, 6th edition, pp. 309, 311). Hahnemann held to the panentheist view that God is in all things, like the soul is in the body.

Maleficium


While the homeopathic "medicine" may contain none of the substance because it was diluted into nothing, it may contain maleficium, a Latin term for any magickal act intended to cause harm. According to theologian Szymanski, "Maleficium (occult potions, powders, and other substances) placed in food or drink can cause possession. The devil has his agents who prepare these diabolical substances by which he [Satan or a demon] is able to enter human and animal bodies." (See The Truth About The Devil, [1944], pg. 20). The same would no doubt hold true of "medicine" containing maleficium made during "Masonic and occult mixing-and-shaking rituals with pendulums and invocations of spirits." 

Ok so i got hat from the guy who hosted a Padre Pio bash on his blog but still, he makes good points which i cannot refute

God Bless



Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Chris Z on February 26, 2025, 08:13:59 PM
Ok so i got hat from the guy who hosted a Padre Pio bash on his blog but still, he makes good points which i cannot refute
I can. 

May I politely ask once again for your sources?  Do I understand your post correctly; you are quoting it from some guy's blog?  May I have the name of the blog, or the author of the blog?  Or am I mistaken, and your post is a compilation of your own?

cz  



Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Predestination2 on February 26, 2025, 08:55:49 PM
I can. 

May I politely ask once again for your sources?  Do I understand your post correctly; you are quoting it from some guy's blog?  May I have the name of the blog, or the author of the blog?  Or am I mistaken, and your post is a compilation of your own?

cz 
introibo ad altare dei blog
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Giovanni Berto on February 26, 2025, 11:00:46 PM
The source is Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy)


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In this process, the selected substance is repeatedly diluted until the final product is chemically indistinguishable from the diluent. Often not even a single molecule of the original substance can be expected to remain in the product.[4] Between each dilution homeopaths may hit and/or shake the product, claiming this makes the diluent "remember" the original substance after its removal.


So the diluent has a memory? How can this make any sense at all?


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He advocated the use of single drugs at lower doses and promoted an immaterial, vitalistic view of how living organisms function.



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Vitalism is a belief that starts from the premise that "living organisms are fundamentally different from non-living entities because they contain some non-physical element or are governed by different principles than are inanimate things."[1][a] Where vitalism explicitly invokes a vital principle, that element is often referred to as the "vital spark", "energy", "élan vital" (coined by vitalist Henri Bergson), "vital force", or "vis vitalis", which some equate with the soul.


This has all the hints to occultism. Weird stuff.
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Chris Z on February 27, 2025, 07:02:15 PM
introibo ad altare dei blog...

I did a quick perusal of said "source".  I cannot find a name or credentials.  I find it curious that he has guest writers and gives their names.  Yet the "about me the blogger" page is empty.  Do you know more about this character which you can or are willing to share?  Without a "WHO" said "WHAT", I'm still asking for your sources.  

Has Holy Mother Church made any statements on or condemnations of Homeopathy?  

cz
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Chris Z on February 27, 2025, 07:13:59 PM
The source is Wikipedia:
Do you have any CREDIBLE / RELIABLE / sources?  I typically "fact check" whatever I find on Wikipedia.  It's a quick point of reference, not a source or proof.

cz
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Predestination2 on February 27, 2025, 08:55:09 PM
Do you have any CREDIBLE / RELIABLE / sources?  I typically "fact check" whatever I find on Wikipedia.  It's a quick point of reference, not a source or proof.

cz
my source was jntroibo ad altare dei blog not ikipedia
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Predestination2 on February 27, 2025, 09:01:08 PM
introibo ad altare dei blog...

I did a quick perusal of said "source".  I cannot find a name or credentials.  I find it curious that he has guest writers and gives their names.  Yet the "about me the blogger" page is empty.  Do you know more about this character which you can or are willing to share?  Without a "WHO" said "WHAT", I'm still asking for your sources. 

Has Holy Mother Church made any statements on or condemnations of Homeopathy? 

cz
i think you should ask HIM for his sources then
Title: Re: Weston a price
Post by: Chris Z on February 27, 2025, 09:58:23 PM
You made the claim.  Three times I asked you to back it up with a source.  

If all you have is... "SOME GUY WHO WROTE A BLOG"... ask him for his source... I'll move on.  I'm not looking to chase every every braying donkey on the internet. 

God Bless

cz