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Belloc · « **Reply #90 on:** February 02, 2010, 01:26:08 PM »

Surgery for what? any mutilation not medically necessary is sinful...

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #91 on:** February 02, 2010, 04:18:47 PM »

you are right. sorry.
My Father disagrees with my plan to return to drugs. I have to obey him.

Dulcamara · « **Reply #92 on:** February 02, 2010, 05:03:36 PM »

It's no wonder that depression rates have skyrocketed. Mankind has come largely to deny one whole half of his own being: the soul. Simultaneously in deciding to dismiss this realty, they from then on ignore all of it's needs. Unfortunately, doing so has very real consequences.

I believe that there IS such a thing as mental illness that is actually not related to immorality, but I believe it is a lot, LOT rarer than that which IS linked to immorality.

It is part of our nature to seek happiness and want to avoid pain, so when a person desires strongly to live in sins, they must ultimately twist their minds like a pretzel excusing it, or making up fake reasons why they then feel depressed (a result of their sins). Some prefer an almost clean-cut departure from reality in general, to facing that they way they think, or the way they live their lives, is pure poison to the mind, heart and soul.

When the person is determined to go on sinning in the face of ever growing problems and misery caused directly or indirectly by doing so, the only thing left is either to quit sinning to stay sane, or else quit sanity to keep sinning. Unhappily, most people staunchly prefer the latter to the former. These heavily influential or mind-altering drugs are simply the next logical step in the futile fight to stay sane while one continues to sin their brains out, or ignore truths vital to our real happiness.

If you know a lot of young non-Catholics, chances are you've personally seen the ever rising problem of mental illness firsthand. But what struck me during the years I actually mingled with non-Catholics, was how very nearly ALL of their depression and mental problems could be traced quite obviously in many cases to sins and selfish, sinful living, or else to moral ignorance. These people need God, truth and a strong shot of reality, not drugs.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #93 on:** February 02, 2010, 06:56:34 PM »

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If I were rich I'd run down to Jamaica right this minute and stay at the Rock House in Negril.

I read that Israeli Kramer's book Listening to Prozac about 14 years ago. Everybody's on prozac because they made pot illegal, how's that for a theory?

The sentence that begins with I read doesn't make sense.

I do not know if MJ is legal or illegal in Jamaica.

Should have been 'I read the Israeli author Kramer's book...'

Weed did not appear to be illegal in Jamaica; I think Rastafarians believe it is sacred.

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #94 on:** February 06, 2010, 01:01:03 AM »

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If you know a lot of young non-Catholics, chances are you've personally seen the ever rising problem of mental illness firsthand. But what struck me during the years I actually mingled with non-Catholics, was how very nearly ALL of their depression and mental problems could be traced quite obviously in many cases to sins and selfish, sinful living, or else to moral ignorance. These people need God, truth and a strong shot of reality, not drugs.

ditto.
I need humility not drugs. Thank God my dad didn't succomb to my wish.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #95 on:** February 07, 2010, 04:41:07 AM »

Is this the thread where I snapped at you for wanting to go on drugs, Spouse?

I'm glad you're not going on them.

What I don't understand about your situation in Iran is that you always speak about marriage, but who will you marry? Are you going to marry a Muslim? What would an Iranian Muslim think about a traditional Catholic wife?

What are these desires you're going to mutilate yourself over, sɛҳuąƖ desires? What possible surgery could you have to stop that? All I know is that if I acted on any sɛҳuąƖ desire there would be no second chance and God would strike me down. He has done too much for me for me to betray Him now. That is all I have to help me -- and it works.

What has also worked for me is to learn to control my thoughts. When I gave up porn, I thought the battle had ended, but then you saw me writing about porn. It was still in my head. As time went by, I became better and better about suppressing any evil thought almost as soon as it started. It's like working a muscle -- the more you do it, the easier it gets.

If you are thinking about marriage all the time, imagining what it would be like, stop yourself the next time you catch yourself doing it. Think about a childhood memory or a feeling of peace you once had that may have been a foretaste of heaven.

I'm surprised that you are struggling at all, if you are so prudish that you won't even undress in front of a cross. Maybe you are trying too hard. Just take up your cross every day, trudge your weary way through life, and keep your eyes on the heavenly country. Each day you don't fall is a triumph, one after which you can rest satisfied.

Belloc · « **Reply #96 on:** February 08, 2010, 07:28:29 AM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Quote from: roscoe
Quote from: Elizabeth
If I were rich I'd run down to Jamaica right this minute and stay at the Rock House in Negril.

I read that Israeli Kramer's book Listening to Prozac about 14 years ago. Everybody's on prozac because they made pot illegal, how's that for a theory?

The sentence that begins with I read doesn't make sense.

I do not know if MJ is legal or illegal in Jamaica.

Should have been 'I read the Israeli author Kramer's book...'

Weed did not appear to be illegal in Jamaica; I think Rastafarians believe it is sacred.

weed=sacred to Roscoe too.... :smoke-pot: :bob-marley:

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #97 on:** February 08, 2010, 10:26:20 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Is this the thread where I snapped at you for wanting to go on drugs, Spouse?

I'm glad you're not going on them.

What I don't understand about your situation in Iran is that you always speak about marriage, but who will you marry? Are you going to marry a Muslim? What would an Iranian Muslim think about a traditional Catholic wife?

What are these desires you're going to mutilate yourself over, sɛҳuąƖ desires? What possible surgery could you have to stop that? All I know is that if I acted on any sɛҳuąƖ desire there would be no second chance and God would strike me down. He has done too much for me for me to betray Him now. That is all I have to help me -- and it works.

What has also worked for me is to learn to control my thoughts. When I gave up porn, I thought the battle had ended, but then you saw me writing about porn. It was still in my head. As time went by, I became better and better about suppressing any evil thought almost as soon as it started. It's like working a muscle -- the more you do it, the easier it gets.

If you are thinking about marriage all the time, imagining what it would be like, stop yourself the next time you catch yourself doing it. Think about a childhood memory or a feeling of peace you once had that may have been a foretaste of heaven.

I'm surprised that you are struggling at all, if you are so prudish that you won't even undress in front of a cross. Maybe you are trying too hard. Just take up your cross every day, trudge your weary way through life, and keep your eyes on the heavenly country. Each day you don't fall is a triumph, one after which you can rest satisfied.

You are right, I love to think and speak about Vocations, personality types, races and any subject that focuses on being not doing. The Catholic religion is very attractive as it puts greater emphasises on what we ARE (sinners, God's children, redeemed) than what we DO.
I am sure that no religious order will accept someone like me. And about temptations and desires, you should not forget that women are drawn to marriage in different ways from men. It is their emotions and their psyche that works here not flesh and hormones. So avoiding those occasions of sin won't solve everything in my case at least. I avoid them though.
A dignified man in ties and jacket is thousand times more attractive than a lewd one in swimsuites. :barf:
Maybe I should forget about both matrimony and the vowed life, like so many catholics on-line who are refused the enterance to religious communities and fail to find someone to marry. It is perhaps what I will have to accept as a hard reality one day. But I prefer not to think about it now, it is better to hope for a miracle that maybe some day something happens. A Holy Pope riding on a white horse coming to open the doors of convents, monasteries, seminaries and the married life to all those who are left outside for the slightest reason.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #98 on:** February 08, 2010, 03:12:27 PM »

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Maybe I should forget about both matrimony and the vowed life...

Trust in the Lord, asking Him to teach you, and prepare you for, the path He desires for you. Considering your willingness to please Him, I feel certain you will be alright.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #99 on:** February 10, 2010, 02:09:26 AM »

S_of_J said:

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I am sure that no religious order will accept someone like me.

There are Catholic religious orders in Iran? To this day, I am unsure if you are in Vatican II or what.

S_of_J said:

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And about temptations and desires, you should not forget that women are drawn to marriage in different ways from men. It is their emotions and their psyche that works here not flesh and hormones. So avoiding those occasions of sin won't solve everything in my case at least. I avoid them though.

Well, despite what you may have heard, men are not entirely reduced to their physical cravings either. Some of us even have emotions.

I am not unlike you. I am almost completely isolated except for my mom, and it's wearing me down slowly but surely. I had two long-term girlfriends before becoming Catholic so I'm used to the companionship of the opposite sex. But I haven't really thought about marriage.

To think I am only 33 and may live in this kind of sensory deprivation for another fifty years ( or for eternity in hell ) is definitely unpleasant. It makes it worse that I lived a bad life before becoming Catholic, dropped out of college, never got a real job, and now don't know what to do with myself. I have to fight my fear all the time, and I'm not doing very well right now. It feels bizarre to go back to college, or get some kind of job, at a time when it seems like the world is ending... I have no motivation.

And you are only 23 or 24, right? Think of it this way: The way things look, Iran might bomb America or vice versa in some kind of staged Armageddon, so maybe the wait won't be forever after all.

Do you think your president is paid off by Jєωs? That is how it seems to me. I don't believe Iran and America are really enemies in the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, but they may start a war for profit.

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #100 on:** February 10, 2010, 02:29:21 AM »

Some religious orders made of active sisters come and go. They are french or have some other nationalities. They don't appear in the public, only go from this church to that church when they are here. They have limitations ofcourse.
I am not V2.
We have anti-zionist exhibitations, books and tapes here. But to know what they are in their hearts or what is behind the curtains is beyond my knowledge and capacity.