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Vitamic C (and the pigheadedness of doctors)
« on: October 29, 2012, 05:34:28 PM »
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  • I just had to share this story with you:

    This video is about a New Zealander who got Swine flu and leukemia.   The doctors wanted to remove him from life support .... allow him to die.  His family rebelled the medical establishment and insisted he get vitamin C intravenously. It tells of their fight with doctors and hospitals with his full resulting recovery. A must-see. ......   A bit of an eye opener .... Duration 17 mins

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    « Reply #1 on: October 29, 2012, 08:19:02 PM »
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    « Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 09:17:33 PM »
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  • Yep! Captain James Cook made sure he had sufficient Vit C on board, enough to avoid mortality and morbidity in his crew , on his long journey from England to Australia in 1770. There's nothing new here.

    But doctors don't like the stuff much. They're much too well educated to believe in the importance of Vitamin C in counteracting illnesses.

    So they saved the man's life by rolling him over onto his stomach!!! WOW!!! That's rocket science, eh?!
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    « Reply #3 on: October 30, 2012, 01:35:18 AM »
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  • Yeah the studies that 'refute' the claims of Vitamin C are irresponsible and lazy at best.

    They give lower doses than any proponent suggests, and orally. Linus Pauling (only 2 time Nobel as far as I know) was *the* Vitamin C advocate, and studies performed that showed no benefit he pointed out did not use intravenous delivery.

    It's a huge factor.

    It's like Vitamin D 'studies,' they always use tiny doses like 400IU and say no clear benefit. Ridiculous.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 30, 2012, 02:57:43 AM »
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    Yeah the studies that 'refute' the claims of Vitamin C are irresponsible and lazy at best.

    They give lower doses than any proponent suggests, and orally. Linus Pauling (only 2 time Nobel as far as I know) was *the* Vitamin C advocate, and studies performed that showed no benefit he pointed out did not use intravenous delivery.

    It's a huge factor.

    It's like Vitamin D 'studies,' they always use tiny doses like 400IU and say no clear benefit. Ridiculous.


    Interesting you should say that. A blood test showed I had low Vit D and my doctor put me on 5000iu/day for 6 wks, 3000iu/4weeks the 2000iu/2weeks. That time is almost up and I feel greatly improved.

    But you're right about the megadoses by introvenous. Maintenence doses are not sufficient when one is deathly ill. What did they have to lose with this patient. Absolutely nothing. Just as well he had those "heavies" for sons. That's what family's for.
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    « Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 09:07:16 PM »
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    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 10:10:42 PM »
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  • My tale hardly has the same import as the OP's, since it pertains to animals, but it illustrates the power of this simple vitamin.
    A feral female gave birth to a litter of kittens in an unoccupied studio room in our backyard.   We've enjoyed watching them grow and play, and the tender care of their mother.  We began to worry when one by one they developed nasty eye infections, with visible nasal congestion -the mother also.  A few of the kittens' eyes were shut from dried mucous.  
    I crushed up vit C tablets and mixed generous amounts into some food for them.  All cleared up in just a few days! They are once again healthy and everyone is back to making us laugh with their antics.  

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    « Reply #7 on: November 12, 2012, 09:30:54 PM »
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  • It's not that doctors are pigheaded, they're simply not trained in medical school about the importance nutrition plays in overall health.  I'm sure this is done on purpose.  Big pharma contributes tons of money to medical schools and still controls the curriculum.  We all know that big phama has a vested interest in keeping people ill.

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    When one seriously examines the two-headed monster known as “Big Pharma,” it becomes blatantly obvious that this is an industry hell-bent on destroying each and every competitive health care profession that subscribes to a non-toxic approach of maintaining the health of human beings.

    Throughout its relatively short history, organized medicine has been successful, with the assistance of petrochemical companies, in eliminating virtually every alternative health care profession in existence. For the sake of brevity, I’ll concentrate on the better known cases that have occurred and directly impacted the health and wellbeing of many people throughout the world.

    The medical profession, itself, was the original victim of Big Pharma many years ago. In the early 1900’s, the Rockefeller and Carnegie families paid two men by the name of Henry Pritchett and Abraham Flexner to create a devious scheme that would forever change the construct of medical schools. The Flexner report, written by Pritchett, concluded that only medical schools that committed to using synthetic based medicines and avoided plant based treatments (homeopathic and naturopathic protocols) should be offered large grants that were created by Rockefeller and Carnegie. Some 17 years after the Flexner report had been written and published, almost half of the previously existing medical schools had been forced to close due to an inability to attract students that would pay tuition. In a nutshell, these schools were unable to compete with the medical institutions that were regularly funded by the large foundations set up by Rockefeller and Carnegie. (1)

    From that point forward, only medical schools philosophically aligned with petrochemical companies would become successful in graduating medical physicians. Presently, the same petrochemical companies have great influence and control over most components associated with modern medicine. The Rockefeller family and its far-reaching tentacles that can be traced directly to the petrochemical and banking industries, have a great deal of influence regarding curricula as well as other important elements embedded within the modern medical institutions of higher learning.

    Over the years, traditional medicine, and its powerful unions, have infiltrated and destroyed any healthcare profession, modality or theory that was based on something other than synthetic, toxic medicines. If it fell outside the pharmaceutical paradigm, it was routinely labeled as pseudo-science and removed from serious consideration by the scientific community. In other words, if it was backed by Big Pharma, it became known as a scientific concept and if it was not backed by Big Pharma, it was never heard of again or was cast into the undesirable realm of pseudo science and banished from public consumption.

    Historically, the two professions that annoyed Big Pharma and presented the most formidable challenge to the Rockefeller-Carnegie agenda were Osteopathy and Chiropractic. As some people might be aware, Osteopathy was aggressively infiltrated and absorbed by Big Pharma then repositioned, harmlessly, as a branch of organized medicine where it could no longer pose a threat to the petrochemical industry.

    Chiropractic, on the other hand, has managed to survive autonomously since 1895 when it was discovered by Dr. Daniel David Palmer. History teaches us that Dr. Palmer’s son, Bartlett Joshua Palmer (September 14, 1882-May 21, 1961) was the individual responsible for developing the chiropractic profession. (2)

    Although chiropractic, on the surface, appears to have survived the onslaught of legal and political blows that Big Pharma has unleashed upon it for many years, some chiropractic practitioners are quick to point out that their profession has already been successfully infiltrated by the medical bogeymen and is currently being repositioned as a branch of physical medicine. Certain practitioners believe the transformation of chiropractic into medicine has already occurred.

    Speaking on a condition of anonymity, one chiropractor explained to me that the absorption of chiropractic into the medical arena was accomplished, over the years, by the Rockefeller agenda and its abilities to manipulate and control health insurance reimbursement programs for chiropractic services and also through influencing the United States Department of Education and chiropractic’s specialized accrediting agency.

    It’s no small coincidence that both osteopathy and chiropractic originally had very similar professional objectives. Those objectives dealt with maintaining the integrity of the spine’s alignment in an effort to promote the body’s natural recuperative powers. (3)

    The power of Big Pharma is enormous and its ability to influence the perceptions of scientists, doctors, and patients should not be underestimated by the American health care consumer.
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    « Reply #8 on: November 12, 2012, 10:28:04 PM »
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  • What is the daily intake that you guys recommend?

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    « Reply #9 on: November 13, 2012, 03:31:02 PM »
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    What is the daily intake that you guys recommend?


    I am not qualified in any other way than by reading up on the matter and experimentation on myself. I have only ever used tablets or dissolving powdered Vitamin C. It is easily researched by internet though (at this point in time).

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    Vitamin C helps the body recover from inflammation, thrombosis and ischaemic damage. It is essential for healing and plays a profound role in heart and brain functions and our immune system. Our daily requirements for optimal function when in good health, has been estimated to be between 2000-4000mg. During illness or disease, we need more Vitamin C to speed up the healing process.

    While you can increase your vitamin intake by eating more of certain foods e.g. citrus fruits and vegetables, or by taking oral supplements, there is a limit to how much you can consume before experiencing digestive disturbances. Often the amount of nutrients absorbed through the gut is less than ideal, due to various digestive problems. One way to ensure we get a large dose of Vitamin C is to have it injected straight into our system through the veins. This is referred to as intravenous (IV) therapy.

    Vitamin C in intravenous dosage is helpful when fighting acute and chronic infections, fatigue, pre and post surgery and to generally boost the immune system while undergoing cancer therapies.

    http://www.yourhealth.com.au/treatments-natural-medicine-therapies-australia-detail.php?name=Intravenous%20Vitamin%20Therapy
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    « Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 01:37:13 AM »
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  • Have a catholic girlfriend whose husband is battling bladder cancer. After two unsuccessful treatments she is now trying vit c. At first he was on the bulk powdered stuff up to 12 000ui per day. After a little researching it definetly pays to go intravenous. Unfortunatly here in Canada the regular mostly free system paid by the govt medicare system wont do it. So they are forced to go with the private system so its costing 150 bucks a day out of their own pocket. Funny he is still a certified doctor but uses the non pharmacy route so govt wont cover that. Shall keep u posted by the end of the week he will be up to 75 000ui per day. They build u up slowly I guess.

    Hey since on the topic of health and wellness. My poor husband has been suffering miserably with his nose. Its been 8 long years of not being able to breathe. Just put him on vit c last week so hoping something will happen.

    Symptoms:  Blocked off sinus, swelling in the nasal cavaties, no air to breathe so no sleep for anyone, fatique, constant sniffing, voice sounds like he is battling a cold.

    Went for one operation but obviously doesnt help he still cant breathe and the worst of it is NO SENSE OF SMELL for now 8yrs.

    Any links or advice appreciated.

    Thanks

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    « Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 01:48:39 AM »
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    they are forced to go with the private system so its costing 150 bucks a day out of their own pocket. Funny he is still a certified doctor but uses the non pharmacy route so govt wont cover that.
     


    Seeing he is a doctor, why doesn't he give himself IV Vit C?


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    Hey since on the topic of health and wellness. My poor husband has been suffering miserably with his nose. Its been 8 long years of not being able to breathe. Just put him on vit c last week so hoping something will happen.

    Symptoms:  Blocked off sinus, swelling in the nasal cavaties, no air to breathe so no sleep for anyone, fatique, constant sniffing, voice sounds like he is battling a cold.

    Went for one operation but obviously doesnt help he still cant breathe and the worst of it is NO SENSE OF SMELL for now 8yrs.

    Any links or advice appreciated.

    Thanks

    Your friendly canadian :farmer:


    How is his diet? Any allergies?
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    « Reply #12 on: December 03, 2012, 10:20:01 PM »
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  • OH SORRY NADIR What I meant was the doctor my friend is seeing is a certified doctor but Canadian Govt wont support a non Pharma approach. Its drugs or nothing. So dumb so the average canadian can choose from Free Drugs or Expensive alternative medicines.

    My hubby doesnt eat junkfood (like me) only eats healthy and moderately and has no allergies but we suspect he developed this nasal problem after working several years in a grain cleaning facility where there is lots of dust and spores.

    This last month it has gotten worse so feeling a little desperate. Im just wondering if anyone on this forum has had a simialr issue with postive results.

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    « Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 08:26:02 AM »
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  • Quote from: copticruiser
    Have a catholic girlfriend whose husband is battling bladder cancer. After two unsuccessful treatments she is now trying vit c. At first he was on the bulk powdered stuff up to 12 000ui per day. After a little researching it definetly pays to go intravenous. Unfortunatly here in Canada the regular mostly free system paid by the govt medicare system wont do it. So they are forced to go with the private system so its costing 150 bucks a day out of their own pocket. Funny he is still a certified doctor but uses the non pharmacy route so govt wont cover that. Shall keep u posted by the end of the week he will be up to 75 000ui per day. They build u up slowly I guess.

    Hey since on the topic of health and wellness. My poor husband has been suffering miserably with his nose. Its been 8 long years of not being able to breathe. Just put him on vit c last week so hoping something will happen.

    Symptoms:  Blocked off sinus, swelling in the nasal cavaties, no air to breathe so no sleep for anyone, fatique, constant sniffing, voice sounds like he is battling a cold.

    Went for one operation but obviously doesnt help he still cant breathe and the worst of it is NO SENSE OF SMELL for now 8yrs.

    Any links or advice appreciated.

    Thanks

    Your friendly canadian :farmer:


    I had a similar problem, except my sense of smell was only mildly affected, but I was having gruesome sinus headaches, etc.

    I finally located a source for food grade 3% hydrogen peroxide.  This is heavy duty stuff and must be diluted with filtered water.  After brushing my teeth, I use a 1/4 inch diluted with equal part of filtered water, holding it in my mouth until it fizzes and expands.

    I repeat this, and make certain that the solution rests under my tongue for as long as bearable, then spit it out. (I want the solution to enter my bloodstream sub-lingually) The aftertaste is pretty gnarly, but it  goes away quickly.

    I use it straight from the bottle in each ear applied with a q-tip.  Same with nostrils, diluted because it burns.

    After about a week the symptoms stopped.  I have heard of people using the food grade peroxide in a neti pot, but the other methods worked and it was not necessary.  

    Your poor husband has a long term problem which may take more than a week to reverse or mitigate.  (I think my problem was bad swimming pool chemicals last summer)  

    It is also really helpful for teeth and gums, but you really want it absorbed several times a day under the tongue, IMO.

    Prayers for your husband--and please look it up yourself--just remember it must be certified food grade, otherwise it's dangerous.  :pray:

    I also use pink himalayan salt in the humidifier--can't afford the pink salt lamps and don't know if they are a scam.  Neti pots are also good as long as the water is 100% filtered and boiled beforehand.  But the peroxide stopped the chronic violent sickness.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 04, 2012, 12:13:31 PM »
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    My poor husband has been suffering miserably with his nose. Its been 8 long years of not being able to breathe.


    It sounds like your husband has nasal polyps. My brother has them and has had one surgery to correct it. He takes singular daily and after two years, they are coming back. He will have to have the surgical procedure again. I am sorry for your husband’s condition. The sleep apnea that these polyps cause can be devastating to a person’s health as the person does not get enough oxygen when he or she sleeps. My brother is a health “nut” and has tried many “natural” remedies with no success.