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I need discernment about this!
« on: February 13, 2025, 08:55:26 AM »
Hey guys!

I heard about the man Wim Hof and his advice for being healthy, including taking ice baths. He also talks about a breathing method to have better control of your body and your passions in general. I tried the breathing method and I was surprised by the very positive results on my concentration and my energy level throughout the day. In itself, it is something 100% natural. The problem is that Wim Hof seems to be a New Age man and so I am afraid that this breathing method could be a danger of some kind.

In short, it consists of taking 30 deep breaths in a row and then holding your breath for 1 min - 1 min 30. We do this 3 or 4 times. You have to be lying down because it is a bit dizzying.

Do you think there is any spiritual danger in doing this? Some say it deploys DMT in the brain. DMT in the brain is normally deployed before you die. Some people take DMT voluntarily (by smoking) to have intense psychedelic experiences. So I am confused. Thanks!

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Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2025, 10:19:20 AM »
I know about the ice baths and it probably does have a healthful benefit, but unless there is some esoteric underbelly to this guy or his practices I don't see a problem.
If DMT is released naturally, just like endorphins might be released in an athlete,   why would that be bad? (unless the natural DMT causes you to sin when you normally wouldn't.)
Would the release of natural DMT cause you to lose inhibitions or moral capacity like drugs or alcohol? Seems unlikely


Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2025, 10:35:02 AM »
I know about the ice baths and it probably does have a healthful benefit, but unless there is some esoteric underbelly to this guy or his practices I don't see a problem.
If DMT is released naturally, just like endorphins might be released in an athlete,  why would that be bad? (unless the natural DMT causes you to sin when you normally wouldn't.)
Would the release of natural DMT cause you to lose inhibitions or moral capacity like drugs or alcohol? Seems unlikely
The difference is that endorphin is not a psychedelic substance, unlike DMT which is. And it is known that psychedelics seem to have spiritual dangers. In relation to that, some people smoke DMT to have an out of body experience. We know that astral travel and that kind of thing are a danger. I don't want to compete with that danger. I just want the health benefits which for this practice, are indisputable.

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Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2025, 10:39:13 AM »
The difference is that endorphin is not a psychedelic substance, unlike DMT which is. And it is known that psychedelics seem to have spiritual dangers. In relation to that, some people smoke DMT to have an out of body experience. We know that astral travel and that kind of thing are a danger. I don't want to compete with that danger. I just want the health benefits which for this practice, are indisputable.
I would stick to the ice baths and not worry about the breathing.  Is there any Saint or Church history that talks about irregular breathing patterns and whether they are good or not?

Re: I need discernment about this!
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2025, 11:02:03 AM »
I would stick to the ice baths and not worry about the breathing.  Is there any Saint or Church history that talks about irregular breathing patterns and whether they are good or not?
This subject is not theological but medical. The saints do not generally speak of medicine (except perhaps Hildegard). That is why they do not speak of breathing methods .This method of breathing is not to make one holier, but healthier. All this is in the domain of health. But sometimes being healthy helps you serve God better in the end. That is why I putted the topic in the Health and Nutrition section!